XPS 17 L702x - WLED AG 1080p (non 3d): Could you please share your experience

I'm in the UK and i think that I don't have a choice if I go for the AG panel advertised. Am I stuck with the inferior panel in the "Home" section?............. I do not want 3D as I'm keen on the long battery life with "Optimus".

cheers

 

Hi guys, I recently purchased a L702x full 3D 1080P, 555m, I7 2720QM.
On playback of videos/blurays/dvds/streams online I am seeing a muddy/fuzzy/noisy look over the whole screen. I have just had a Dell engineer around to replace the mobo/gfx card and its still exactly the same. I have updated Bios, tried the latest WHQL nvidia drivers but nothing is changing. It is almost like the video is being played through onboard graphics.
Totally baffled now and almost thinking its just the new 3D technology in the laptops.
I owned a 1600-900 Dell Studio 1749 prior to this and blurays looked sharp and crisp with none of this noise throughout the image.

Here is my screen details.

Monitor
Manufacturer............. LG Display
Plug and Play ID......... LGD02C5
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
Filter driver............ None
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.4
Input signal type........ Digital (DisplayPort)
Color bit depth.......... 6 bits per primary color
Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4
Screen size.............. 380 x 210 mm (17.1 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Reserved - 0x00)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.642 - Ry 0.345
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.339 - Gy 0.620
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.148 - By 0.062
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Range limits............. Not available
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 100Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 396.360 1920 1968 2000 2888 1080 1083 1088 1372 +hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080p at 110Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 396.360 1920 1968 2000 2888 1080 1083 1088 1248 +hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 120Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 396.360 1920 1968 2000 2888 1080 1083 1088 1144 +hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported

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Date generated........... 11/11/2011
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0100
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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Any help would be hugely appreciated guys!

 

Here are some images of what im trying to describe. The films are Limitless (2011) and matrix revolution, all DVD played through WMP.

I have tried VLC, Cyberlink DVD same issues, no difference at all

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m632/drsmoketto/3.png
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m632/drsmoketto/2.png
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m632/drsmoketto/1.png

Its pretty hard to see the detail as the images dont open very big but you may see what I am trying to describe.

Cheers

 

Did you and/or the tech confirm the panel is set to 120Hz in the monitor properties?

>>> Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display > Adjust screen Resolution > Advanced setttings > Monitor tab

As shown below, the panel is capable of many refresh rates, but 120Hz is best even in 2D operation and required for 3D operation.

Scott-

 

Yup all set at 120Hz....
The video playback looks great if its minimized in a smaller window. Looks muddy and noisey when full screened.

 

Its almost like when I full screen the video is being run through the HD3000 on board... but I know this isnt possible as I have the 3D model which means that optimus is not available and the GT555M is constantly on.

 

Weird...
Yes, Optimus is not available in the 3D compatible model. Other items to check -

A. Another movie.

B. The video player settings (make sure full resolution is displaying at full screen).

C. The NVIDIA dashboard properties to see if the application or the video card is controlling the color and 3D/video settings.

D. The external HDMI video output to see if the same issue is present on an external display. If not, it may be the LCD panel itself or a semi-flaky eDP LCD video cable inside the laptop.

Scott-

 

Tried multiple films, same outcome.
Player settings are correct
I have tried to let the application controll as well as nvidia
I have plugged an external 1080p tv into the laptop and it is still blurry.

Thanks for the suggestions Scott

 

Here are some high res screen shots of the issue Scott if it helps at all?

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Please fix the photo links.

Scott

 

sorry scott... they are here, last post:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/595836-whats-wrong-my-video-l702x-gt-555m-3.html

 

Does this issue only present itself when playing back movies? To confirm, your desktop and programs look fine?

Have you tried any codec packs to enhance the player abilities?

Here is a good codec pack - LiteCodecPackFull.zip

Scott-

 

Hi Scott. Yes simply on playback of videos/dvds/blurays.
I will try that codec pack now, Thanks

 

Tried the codec pack and it really makes no difference at all.

 

Very strange. To me, it looks like a lower resolution setting is still enabled when you go full screen. If everything else in Windows is clean, including high res. photos, then it is most likely not the video card or system board. It must be software and/or driver related.

Scott-

 

I've got the 1080p AG screen, and its just awesome. Colors are rich, viewing angles are great. The Anti-Glare coating makes all the difference as far as readability goes. Compares to my Inspiron 1720 that has a 1080p screen w/ glossy, the difference is night and day. Won't ever have a glossy screen again.

 

Hi everybody !

I'm planning to buy a Dell XPS 17", but i'm still hesitating about the screen !

As i've got a 20% reduction, the FHD AG (non 3D) costs 85€ more than the HD+

Should I go for it ? Is it worth the extra cost ?

Or do you think the HD+ (1600*900) screen is good enough ?

I haven't found comparative photos of those 2 screens one the web...

Thanks a lot for your help !

 

get the 1080p AG screen.

 

Other advices ?

If someone has seen both screens and can give me his opinion,
it would be nice !

 

Well if you want to have a full HD screen to play full HD movies/games, get the AG one. If you don't care, take the lower resolution. It's just a matter of how much you give importance to media. The difference is sort of huge between e 1600x900 and a 1920x1080. I took the AG full hd non-3D and I'm very happy with it (except of course the GPU issue which I hope will be sorted out soon... but it has nothing to do with the screen)

 

I've never had a Full HD screen, so I don't know if I'd prefer it for an everyday use.

If the overall quality is really better with the FHD screen, then I should take it.

I wish i could see comparative pictures of the 2 screens...

I've heard that mate screens generate less eyestrain... Is that true ?

Because i'm gonna spend a lot of time working on Word documents for example.

Thanks !

 

I am thinking about buying this xps 17 laptop with the following spec, but weanted to know if it looks like the spec offered would cause any issues or limitiations:

DISPLAY | 17.3 in widescreen FHD 3D (1920 x 1080)

PROCESSOR Intel Core i7-2630QM 2.00 GHz MEMORY

6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz

HARD DRIVE SIZE | 500 GB SATA 7200 RPM

OPERATING SYSTEM | Windows 7 Home Premium

PC TYPE | Notebook

OPTICAL DRIVE | Blu-ray DVD drive

MEDIA DRIVE | 9-in-1 memory card reader

AUDIO | JBL 2.1 with Waves MaxxAudio

VIDEO | NVIDIA GeForce GT 550M with 1 GB graphics memory

PORTS | 2 USB 3.0 • USB/eSATA combo port • HDMI • Headphone output • Microphone input • LAN (RJ-45) • S/PDIF • Mini DisplayPort BATTERY | 9-cell lithium-ion (up to 7.32 hours)**

CAMERA | Built-in 2.0 MP HD webcam

WIRELESS | 802.11b/g/n

BLUETOOTH | Yes

DIMENSIONS | 16.30 x 11.30 x 1.30 in (414.9.0 x 287.30 x 38.50 mm)

WEIGHT | 7.57 lbs (3.43 kg) COLOR | Silver


Thanks in advance

 

Since this thread is specifically about the anti-glare screen available for some models, you should know, that the FHD 3D screen is a different screen and has a glare finish. If you like to know more about these specs in general, then I believe you should be posting (reading) in the general L702x thread ( link).

 

After weeks of anticipation, I just received my new XPS 17 with the 1080p FHD AG screen.

It's absolutely terrible. The color quality is fine. The anti-glare coating is *horrible*. Text is barely legible. It's so textured that white background actually appear to be refracted into multiple colors. It looks as if the screen is covered in a thin film of oily fingerprints. Imagine projecting a screen onto sand. That's what it looks like. Please tell me this is not normal.

I just got off the phone with Dell support and someone is coming out next week to replace the LCD. I can only hope this fixes the issue. Surely this is not what the screens are supposed to look like.

 

Screen is fine if its not great but you may have to calibrate it or use color profile..........

 

With a little bit of luck you'll have it replaced with an LG-Philips screen, which is also matte, but the coating is much better - at least I don't see it, as I did on the Chi Mei screen.

 

Just started to notice the matte coating, pretty annoying...

 

Ugh, please don't say that. This is the second high-end laptop I've tried, and I just can't understand manufacturers putting crap components in them. I had an Asus G74 before this and returned it because they all apparently use flakey keyboards and touchpads. If this is the standard screen quality for a high-end XPS, then it's getting returned as well.

It gets replaced tomorrow. I have my fingers crossed.

 

For me, it's still a good screen with good colours, viewing angles just the coating is fairly notable.

 

This forum has been really helpful. But also this this forum really got me worried about my desire for an anti-glare screen. Nevertheless I decided to buy a Dell XPS 17 inch HD AG laptop and I am so glad for this decision. None of the worries I read about in this forum actually came true. I don't have any problem with this so-called blur. The screen is wonderful. It is visible under every circumstance I use the laptop. During day time, in the evening and outside. I use the laptop for work and for watching dvd's. I don't play games. I have been working on about 8 laptops before, and none of them were anti-glare. The choice for an anti-glare was the best decision I ever made for laptops. Based on my experience, I really don't understand the discussion about the more deepened black on non anti-glare screens. I acknowledge the deepener black, but it is such a minor detail. In the delight of this anti-glare screen it is hardly noticeable. What is noticeable, however, is that you can watch the screen no matter what lights are burning. There is simply no reflection bothering you. Also, I did not notice the matte coating, a thing some posts were complaining about. To my experience, this is exaggerated. The determination between true life and anti-glare worried me the most, but I can truly say that my initial wish for a non-glare screen has been very rewarding. I hope my experience is of some help to those who have similar considerations.

 

Im after a new display for my L702X, Could someone recommend the best screens to get? I would like a 1080p display of the highest quality

 

Yea, some people really got really overblown reactions saying stuff like "text is unreadable" and "horrible".
I get compliments about this screen at work when I'm watching movies and playing games, so its not "horrible" as forum members claim.
I've had this computer for about a year now.

 

i have this screen and love it - good colors and brightness. it's the first screen i can use without problems in my yard due to the high brightness and lack of reflections.

as beertha stated comments like "text is unreadable and horrible" are overblown. i'm a web designer, so trust me - if it was that bad i would have returned it by now.

my only complaint is for the calibration - mine has a greenish tint in the yellows.

 

So I got Dell to replace my 1600x900 screen for my L702x with a 1920x1080 screen.
They sent me
Monitor
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor
Manufacturer............. LG Display
Plug and Play ID......... LGD02DA
Data string.............. VCV1F173WF1 [*CP437]
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 0
Filter driver............ Monitor
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.4
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... 6 bits per primary color
Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4, YCrCb 4:4:4
Screen size.............. 380 x 220 mm (17.3 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.335
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.320 - Gy 0.630
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Range limits............. Not available
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 140.000 1920 1968 2000 2096 1080 1083 1088 1113 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 140.000 1920 1968 2000 2096 1080 1083 1088 1113 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported

Report information
Date generated........... 5/8/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Registry-Active
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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Did I luck out?

 

Hi,

I need ICM profile to my dell XPS... but link on RS is broken...


Can U help me?

THX =)

 

Try one of three in this zip file: http://www.dellsonly.com/sw/20110113_XPS17_ICC_Profiles.zip

Scott

 

do they make an IPS 1080 screen for the l702?

 

Thanks Scott