XPS M1530 config/concern/questions

There is something called statistics. Its not my claim, but I based my judgment in deciding what resolution to get and what type of display to get based on research. I do not yet have a M1530 until Thursday, but I have see on others with them and I have discussed it may times over. Many others have tested it and have obtained the data, and I believe them. Others say Seagate drives are quiet as opposed to a hitachi drive. How do you decide? Based on statistics. Unfortunately you cannot test and benchmark everything in this world yourself when you are the one thinking about making the purchase. You depend on others and information by the manufacturer.

If you don't care about battery life, the weight bonus and better color reproduction, contrast, brightness, still outweigh. I'm sure Rhodan has never seen an LED display on a M1530 himself, so you can't expect him to simply know which one is best for you. He spent the effort to get his WSXGA which I'm sure was worth it since he got rid of his samsung, but then again he has never seen the awesome quality of an LED screen.

It will be a biased answer considering he has a WSXGA+ himself. There are more hassles 1680x1050 since for the 1900x1200, there is only the samsung display, though I feel the 1920 is way too small to read on a 15.4 inch notebook. 1680 you might get a LG, you might get a samsung, but on a polling conducted here on NBR, 33 got a LG, 66 got a samsung, so your odds may not be that great, but who knows? I can say good things about LED, Rhodan can say good things about WSXGA+, but in the end, the choice is yours. Rhodan obviously has only seen his WSXGA+ and has not seen an LED, so asking him whether he likes his is an obvious answer, of course he does.

 

To me the trouble getting the WSXGA+ was worthed. My previous laptop had the 1440x900 and I hated the resolution, it was not enough for what I do.

If you think you can be happy with the lower res. then you should go with the LED.

The 1900x1200 is a Samsung panel, I would only go for that res. on a 17" myself.

 

ok fanboy, so you can come over and make statements about battery life that you can't substantiate trying to make your point for the led...

Then you call me biaised, please point, in context, to such behaviour...

 

It is substantiated by everyone else except for me. I'm not the one making the statements, I'm only referencing them. When your buying a unit, there is something called "research".

Even still Rhodan, you provide no evidence of your own, not even statements that "LED on the M1530 only provides 5% battery life that is insignificant." THAT was your own opinion. Even the OP was able to find evidence to support what I brought up.

Perhaps you didn't think read up in that area when you bought your M1530? Or maybe it wasn't available? Or you just felt like WSXGA+ resolution outweighed everything else. You are no more a fanboy than I am.

I'm not saying your WSXGA+ is bad, I'm not trying to offend you. Like I said, in the end its all up to the buyer. What I post, is the result of my research to justify what I purchased and why. That is all. If you felt offended, well, don't be. You have your reasons for getting what you got based on what you read, I have mine.

 

Sure enough if you did your 'market research' you must have pointers to where that 30% battery saving comes from... Oh yeah that was from the Dell CSRs right?

If you don't want to offend then be carefull how you call others. I've been trying to offer a unbiaised view of the WSXGA+.

You on the other hand seem to think you can insert baseless information in your post to make them more credible. There's nothing out there that show 30% battery time improvement with LED. Even the 30 minutes statement you claimed victory over is based on a statement from Apple.

 

Statements can be supported by more than one source, including but not limited to Dell CSRs. Apologies if I have offended you, but like I said, I'm just offering my perspective from the point of a buyer. We are both biased (Ex. to us, WUXGA is too small for 15.4'', but to others, WUXGA is perfect), though in the end, its all up to the OP. Its his system, so its all up to him to decide. I think we should leave it at this since there are no longer any new points of benefits or negatives of LED or WSXGA+.

 

So you need to take statements out of context in your attempt at saving face. My statement was 'I believe it's more in the 5% range' which in no way implies it's a fact. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3402512&postcount=9

Your statement on the battery saving was written like it's a fact. Yet you cannot give any pointer whatsoever to data to prove your point. Even better, think about it for a second. If the LEDs were really saving 30% battery life don't you think every manufacturer selleing LED equiped notebook would be advertising such great improvment...

You have no clue about half of what you talk about. That's why a while ago you started like 20 polls and eventually got a stern warning to stop creating new threads....

 

Cmon, guy's...please..

P E A C E

Let's get back to helping this guy out

P.S. Don't be mad at me, k..

 

Still doesn't answer the fact that the OP was able to find factual evidence on it. Manufacturers do advertise advantages of LED already.

Clearly you don't know what your talking about and this has no relevance to LED or WSXGA+ displays whatsoever. I did start a lot of threads related to the display specifically LED vs CCFL, WSXGA+ CCFL vs WXGA+ LED, in an effort to get more feedback on which to get. I'm just making the OPs job easier by presenting him with what I have learned. Im pretty sure you have not done much research on LED displays yourself or read user feedback on them. Seriously, if you wanna point something that says LEDs don't save 30% more battery life, go look up some evidence. After all, the OP was able to do it easily, you should have no problem too right? Stating that you were just randomly guessing LEDs only save something like 5%, just shows you have no basis whatsoever. Not even from a Dell CSR, not even info quoted from somewhere. if you knew what you were talking about, you would have posted a reference to something to refute.

Regardless, I agree with Cin. Peace. Like I said many times over, what I said about LED providing 30% of battery life is from many Dell CSRs, and the OP has proven that that LED provides 20-30 more mins with sources. Sure it might not be HARD FACT, but at least we both have something to back it up. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

Considering the OP does not care about the battery life, there is no point in continuing discussion on it since the OP has said himself, battery life is not a factor. So like Cin said, help the guy out. Stop ranting about battery life. Its not that big of a deal. If you really want to argue, at least argue about display quality of LED vs CCFL since I also did not quote any sources about LED having higher contrast and brightness than CCFL displays. At least that would probably help out the OP in his decision by getting views from both sides.

 

You're joking right? The OP found 1 quote on electronista saying the typical battery saving was 20-30 minutes and you take this to validate your 30% claim. Again you're taking information out of context or you don't bother reading was is said.

Of course there no point in discussing your allegations any further because you can't substantiate them.

Go play in the Dell Shipping Order Status and Customer Service Issues threads. It's a better sand box for you.

 

You don't know when to quit and instead, throw flames. If you want to argue, at least make it topical and something that can help the OP out in his decision. If you want to continue arguing about the LED + battery, feel free to throw me a PM. So the OP and everyone else don't see such pointless flaming. You do realize that your not only trying to make me look bad with your flaming, you are also making yourself look bad at the same time. Seriously dude, just drop it.

 

Whatever, go play now. I'm done arguing with you.

 

Thanks Rhodan. Whatever floats your boat. Peace!

 

I haven't been able to read the entire thread, but if you need some numbers about the battery life between the 1680x1050 LCD and the 1440x900 LED, well, here are some estimated numbers from my experiences. They are on High Performance mode starting from a 100% charged battery with basic internet browsing and some photoshop work. Screen brightness at 100% each time. If it matters, idle RAM usage was at about 35% (of 4GB) and each core ran at about 15-20% (idle, T9300 2.5Ghz). Bluetooth was off, but Wifi was on.

I'd get ~1 hour 50 minutes - 2 hours on the 1680x1050. I'd get ~2 hours 10 minutes on the LED. Not much of a change, but significant enough for me. There may be some differences (size of files in photoshop, background processes, etc) between the two that may skew the numbers, but the two laptops are exactly the same spec-wise (except for the screen).

So, you'll probably see at least a 10-minute improvement in battery life. I'd recommend the LED anyway because of the color/brightness/contrast differences.

 

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DYCWHN1&s=dhs



Does this mean I'm more likely to get an LG screen?

If I get a grainy screen does the premium xps tech support quickly rectify the issue?

 

It's a coin toss. Whatever becomes available is what you will get.

XPS Support will exchange your screen based on it being substandard or defective. They will also cross ship you brand new replacement laptops until you're happy with what you have. Calling support and asking for a LG screen will most likely get you nowhere. Calling and complaining about poor viewing angles and poor brightness will get you replacements screens or notebooks

Please take the time to read the section on grainy screen and LG screen in the Top 10 Questions about the M1530. The link is in my sig.

The LG WSXGA+ is a great screen if you can get one. I would honestly not recommend getting that resolution because it's so uncertain what you will get.

Good luck.

 

I must order my xps m1530 today, yet the decision will be up to this thread, please discuss/ provide pictures.

 

or you can google

 

I can see the LED but none have posted the 1680x1050 LG

 

They are both about the same http://www.corvettec3.com/Dell-Tandy800.jpg

All jokes aside, I saw the 1440 x 900 and it is good and ultra thin. If you want better resolution get the other option. Only you know what screen would be best for your eyes.

 

Does the LED really bring out the colors? I may opt for it due to more vibrance in gaming rather than higher detail in the 1680x1050

 

Yes the LED has better colours. Go to your local brick&mortar computer store and have a look at the laptops. If there's a LED you will notice it right away.

 

Did you Rhodan opt for the 1680x1050 for more real estate, or are you also a gamer and movie frequenter who preferred the extra pixels?

 

My previous laptop was a Alienware M7700 which is a 17" screen. The resolution was 1440x900 and it was really not enough for me. I use my system for application development, gaming, writing documentation, etc. For me the extra space is more important.

I did compare the LG with LED screens at the local futureshop a while back. Yes the LEDs are brighter but M1530 LG WSXGA+ looked better than any of the 25 or so CCFL laptops that were on the shelves at the store.

I play HL2, TF2 and COD4 on mine.

 

"Forget this thing. I can recognize an obsession, no good will come of it" -Nicoli Tesla, Film- the Prestige

Lol, I believe I have gained the aforementioned syndrome,what do you mean as in looked better?

 

I put my m1530 on the shelf in a row of 15" note book. The M1530 was brighter and had better viewing angles that most notebook on the shelf. I repeated this in the 13" section where there was a LG LED notebook and the LG Notebook was best and the M1530 was second.

 

After much consternation, I've decided to go with the 1680x1050, I hope I get the LG , I chose it over the LED 1440x900 simply because I'm so used to playing games i.e. oblivion at higher resolutions, 1440x900 is just too low. Who here has gotten a samsung 1680x1050 and is happy with their screen?

 

I hate to tell you this but I really think you should re-consider. If you are looking to game on a 1530, then I would recommend the 1440x900 LED screen. 1440x900 is really the sweet spot for this notebook. I know the LED is a bit more, but it will be a much better when games become even more demanding.

 

This is true, HOWEVER games likes Oblivion and such would run great on 1680x1050 with the extra detail, Crysis would run decent on this resolution. The newest games would still run decent at 1680, do you think the colors brought out look better though over the extra detail of pixels?

I'm ordering my laptop today at 4:00, I must decide

 

I can tell Crysis will not run well at this resolution. Maybe low, but it looks really ugly on low. 1440x900 and medium details is going to be pushing it as it is. Trust me, get the WXGA+ LED screen. Because either you will be forced to use a non native resolution which will blur the image, or you can force your LCD not to scale thus having black bars all around your screen when you run a game less then 1680x1050. Really running higher resolution only does so much, but when you are forced to reduce settings for a higher resolution, its not worth it. High details and a lower resolution any day over high resolution and low details.

 

It seems there are a small bunch that are happy..myself included and ..no it is from not comparing... I have seen many other screens and had many others look at the screen I have and I guesss I got lucky... and by accident Samsung let a good one get through lol!!! I would not have the patience to go through the returns scenario either...Too much stress and I was promised an LG so don't buy into that either ..but I am happy and I am sure there are a few others that are but looks like they don't chime in as often..cheers and good luck to winning the lotto....

 

LED screen gets another vote.
I`ve been reading and viewing pics about it, there simply is not question about it.

 

I vote LED as well. Had the 1680x1050, was too grainy. After some persistence got it upgraded to 1440x900 LED. Very happy with the service. I miss the higher resolution, but for games the higher resolution was taxing to the system, and standard use required a bit to squinting and the right angles.

The battery life and better colors make the LED more than worth it.

 

But do you miss the higher resolution on older games like oblivion? Do movies look crappy at such a low resolution?

 

I'm considering the 1900x1200 or 1400x900 LED, and have heard some say the former is grainy, many say the latter is great. I've never been at a resolution below 1280x1024 in the past

 

The difference is very noticeable for me. the screen gets brighter, is instantly on, increases battery life, gives much better viewing angle and very impressive contrast and dark levels. It also made my 1330 significantly lighter. I also weirdly received a much smaller and portable ( although it runs very hot) power adapter with it although I don't know if that applies to all LED laptops.

 

I have the LED. Extremely bright and great colors. All really depends on the resolution you are most confortable with.

 

LED I say. If you want the Full HD experience, utilize your output on a nice Hi-Def TV. The 8600m GT cant game at those higher resolutions. LED is very bright and vibrant.

 

Pauw, straight up, stop making the same threads over and over. I will answer your question in the hopes you stop asking (even though it's already been answered).

Firstly, neither the HD or LED screen resolutions or below 1280x1024, so I don't know what you were getting at there.

Second, any screen can be grainy, just some are more likely than others. From what I understand, it is very rare in both the HD and LED screens to have the grain problem. The chance is low enough that if fate hates you enough to give you a bad one, you can get it replaced, and the odds of getting another bad one of either HD or LED is very tiny.

Third, from what I remember reading in one of your other many threads on this, you will use your computer for just email, word processing, some light gaming etc. For this, I would not recommend a 1920x1200 resolution screen as I would imagine you will get frustrated with fiddling around with font sizes depending on the task you are doing at that specific time.

If you are set on either the full HD or the LED, my vote definitely goes to the 1440x900 LED.

 

My obsession subsides...

 

maybe a doctor would be better than a dell, lol. Just get something already.

 

How much brighter when you compare with CCFL screen? 5-10% or just a little bit?

 

If its a DVD or content download from the net, the 1440x900 will be better as well because it cause them to stretch less. Trust us, get the LED. You will like it.

 

i would say around 10 - 15% brighter than the LG. My friend has an m1530 with a LG panel and i compared my LED screen with his LG screen, hence the 10-15%


Btw, i was looking at the Dell Manual which lists the specifications,
It lists WXGA LED LCD as 300nits for Luminance

However,
http://www.cmo.com.tw/opencms/cmo/products/notebook/products_notebook_N154C6.html?__locale=en
lists the LED LCD as 350nits for luminance.

the screen that came with my m1530 is made by chi mei so i am unsure which one to go with.



From the Dell m1530 Manual

From the Chi Mei Site,

 

I'll go for the 1900x1200 i guess

 

I almost did but I squint on my 24" sometimes at that res and can only imagine what a 15" screen at that rest will do to my test lol.

 

1900x1200 seems overkill for a 15". Get the LED.

 

I have the LED. Would not exchange it for anything else.

 

What definition is 1400x900?

 

LED 1440x900.

IF you want high def, its cheaper to buy a PS3 and hook it up to your high def tv.