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    XPS M1530 config/concern/questions

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Pauw, May 24, 2008.

  1. Rhodan

    Rhodan NBR Expert of Nothing

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    Were talking laptop here.... Do you carry your PS3 and HDTV in your backpack? :D
     
  2. jfdube

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    Doesn't everyone? :D
     
  3. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    You remind me exactly of me a few weeks ago, making threads and asking questions about the resolution whether is was good to dumb down to a lower resolution to get LED. Strangely enough, you narrowed it down to WUXGA or LED like I did. WUXGA is actually better than WSXGA+ even though it has a Samsung screen, but the screen brightness is 300 nits, 50 away from the LED. The WSXGA+ however, is low in the 200's. So comparing LED WXGA+ to CCL WSXGA, you'll notice a huge difference of 20-25% in brightness. Though with the WUXGA, it will be around 10-15%.

    Regardless of brightness, I've never used a WUXGA, and going on a trip to my local Best Buy was null as there were no 1920 x 1200 displays for laptops, especially on 15.4 inch. I have seen 1920x1200 on 22 inch monitors... they look... awesome... though I'd think the highest def is reserved for screens that are 17'' at least. Though there are some who are used to reading the small test.

    Anyways, like I said in your very first thread, the retention rate of the LED is higher. There are people with higher resolutions who have switched to WXGA+ for LED and were happy with it, but no one who has had an WXGA+ LED have sent theirs in for a higher resolution CCFL because they missed it.
     
  4. sh1v

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    @forte

    i see that you have gone with LED screen ;). You will definitely enjoy that screen for sure!
     
  5. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Yup, I get to enjoy it on Thursday, (been waiting 2 weeks for it, just need DHL to actually do something to get it to my door). I actually originally placed my order on the 10th for the WSXGA+, then switched over to LED by canceling and replacing on the 13th after reading up on all the benefits of it. It was tough... very tough... but I have no regrets. :)
     
  6. sh1v

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    So you have the laptop with you?
     
  7. Lucanesti

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    1400x900 is 720p capable. Add that with better viewing angles, brighter more vibrant display, and you have a winner.
     
  8. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    I just bought the laptop with WUXGA, a little wary I didn't get the LED, but then again, glad I didn't go for the WSXGA+. Both WUXGA and LED seem to be a good choice in my opinion
     
  9. Lucanesti

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    Indeed, Im sure the full HD is pretty on movies, great for productivity aswell and gaming on older DX9 games.
     
  10. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    My xps m1530 laptop is ordered with a delivery date of 6/11/08. However, the EXPRESSCARD SOUND BLASTER X-FI XTREME AUDIO Laptop sound card says Est. Delivery Date: 6/30/2008-7/2/2008. I thought dell would install it for me,
    will both the sound card and laptop come seperate??!
     
  11. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    You can always cancel. To be honest, I had initially ordered with WSXGA, a day after, cancelled and reordered with WUXGA, then cancelled again and switched to LED after more consideration.

    The reason why I didn't go with the WUXGA is because the icons will be small and if you increase the DPI to make the text bigger, it basically changes the resolution to 1440x900 to make it readable. I favored the battery life, much better color reproduction, and brightness. Strangely enough when I placed the WUXGA, I read on the forums about some of the samsung screens having grainy issues, though most don't. However, the LED screens were always perfect, which is why I cancelled and switched over to the LED.

    If you think about it this way, you get the WUXGA or the WSXGA now without the LED, in the future when refreshes come out with WUXGA LED screens, you will regret it. However if you go with 1440 with LED, when the refreshes come out with 1440 with LED also, you won't regret it cause you will already be futureproofed. Rest assured, the next time I bought my laptop, probably around the time when Calpella comes out or some time after, I'll go for the 1680 with LED once its a standard. Also there is more battery life drained on the higher WUXGA and gaming performance will not be as great due to your computer having to sustain the WUXGA display all the time. You can be sure you won't be gaming at 1920 x 1200 resolution without models looking like crud. Sure you might be able to get decent settings with HL2 and fairly ok with Oblivion... once HL3 comes out, Starcraft 2 comes out... and once you see more LED notebooks floating around, you will wish you had one.

    Despite the WUXGA being brighter, LED still offers better contrast and color reproduction.

    I'm sure you've already seen the pics. LED truly does make a world of a difference. If your like me, you still feel slight doubts in your mind right now despite placing an order for the WUXGA. Though you may not feel it initially, eventually you might end up realizing that LED is the better option and when that time comes, you will cancel and replace your order.

    Of course if it doesn't happen to you, you should enjoy the multimedia capabilities of the WUXGA aside from gaming as well as the extra screen fredom. After all, it is 1080p, superb for watching movies. The important thing is, you chose the M1530 notebook. A notebook that will make others jealous of you regardless of whether you get WUXGA or LED WXGA+. You've made the right choice when you decided to get one. ^_^
     
  12. Forte

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    Yes, they will be separate.
     
  13. mia4l

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    yep they will come seperate
     
  14. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    If it comes seperate, what is my integrated audio since I only chose the sound blaster? Will the card just improve my laptop's sound when I insert then?
     
  15. Forte

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    its not if, it will definitely come separate. Your integrated audio will still be there. The Extreme card you ordered goes into your express slot that you simply stick into your laptop that "enhances" the audio quality of your existing speakers within your laptop.

    I didn't get the Extreme card for that reason, the laptops speaker is just improved, its not built in or anything. But I've heard people have had noticable improvement with it. Eh.
     
  16. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    I agree, but believe that my eyes can adjust to the small resolution, being under 20 yrs. For games I can switch to non native and though the desktop would distort, games wouldn't really. I also want to watch 1080p movies.
     
  17. Forte

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    Yeah, I'm under 20 too. Your eyes should be able to as I had adjusted to the 1680 myself, though there are people on the forums who are college students who, though could adjust to it, still felt it was kinda tiny and shipped theirs back for an LED backlit or WSXGA+ and were satisfied. In terms of resolution, it really depends from person to person. To me, I feel that I would get the WUXGA maybe in the future when blu-ray drives become cheaper so the 1080p would actually do justice for BluRay, plus by that time, there will probably be LED versions of them as well. Thats just my philosophy.
     
  18. Pauw

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    Ah but the LED backlight is more expensive than high def., and a screen replacement costs 500$. New egg has external Lite blue ray for 200$
     
  19. Forte

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    Yeah, if money is an issue, go with the high def by all means or the WSXGA+. Just because there is LED doesn't mean the quality of Truelife has gone down. Though if you've seen an LED screen, you would notice a large difference. I personally wouldnt pay 500 bucks for a screen replacement or pay $200 for a blu ray drive. I'd rather it be built in. If I didn't mind, I would buy a 1TB external hard drive instead of just relying on the one in my computer.

    It costs more to get the best. No way around it. (Except for RAM).

    Personally I disliked the fact I had to get a Tablet PC for college, but comparing the tablet PC display 12.1 inch to E1505 with CCFL 15.4 inch... the LED is... wow... Sharp, colors are awesome. It seriously made my WSXGA+ E1505's screen look like it was very dim, though I never knew until I actually used it.
     
  20. merlin_72032

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    How do you get the price quote that changing the screen cost $500? Did you talk to dell or something?
     
  21. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    Yes asked Dell support directly
     
  22. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    lol. I was actually considering getting a WSXGA+ back then then upgrading to LED backlit screen manually when it came out, which was one of the reasons I didn't go for the LED. I'm glad I went with the LED. I'd rather buy a PS3 with 500 bucks.
     
  23. merlin_72032

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    Let me talk to Dell then. Thanks!
     
  24. ProfessorShred

    ProfessorShred Notebook Evangelist

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    My perspective...
    Have had 6 M1530's in my possession,only 1 out of 6 had a non grainy LCD which was an LG,Should have kept that one but oh no,just had to get one with L.E.D Panel(CMO),whites are white not yellow,and its very bright but grainy too :>(

    Just a sidenote,the Asus U3 you see as my avatar,that Lappy my friends is a work of art,build quality and detail is impeccable,was worth every penny,those considering buying a M1330 may want to give the U3 a long hard look.
     
  25. TheSeanTeam

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    Is 320-6691 15.4 inch Wide Screen WXGA+ TrueLife LCD the one with LED?
     
  26. Lucanesti

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    It says LED in the name. By Che Mei OPETLEFKJDSFKhg or w/e
     
  27. Forte

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    No, thats the standard CCFL. LED is:

    320-6693 15.4 inch Wide Screen WXGA+ TrueLife LED LCD with Camera for XPS M1530

    1 320-6797 15.4 inch Black Wide Screen WX+ LED TrueLife LCD with 2.0 MP Camera for XPS M1530
     
  28. swiego

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    This is an interesting discussion for me as well. I think there are some people in the same boat as I--very used to 15.4" WUXGA and with some specific desire for that resolution. (In my case, a large percentage of my business work is Excel, large data management / BI / etc. where my laptop is typically substituting for dual 24" displays.) But I also want to use it for photo work, significant amounts of outdoor work, etc., where I presume the virtues of LED really shine. I want WUXGA LED, but I can't have that, so right now I have to choose.

    I'm leaning toward the WUXGA display under the assumption that it's already very bright. The power savings of LED are not as much a concern as the brightness... I'm too used to 400+cd/m2 desktop displays over the years and many laptops with typical leave me with this "eh... dull" impression. I've been led to believe that the WUXGA screen Dell uses is among the brighest CCFL panels available in laptops... any confirmation of that? (If so, that might seal the deal for me.)
     
  29. Pauw

    Pauw Notebook Consultant

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    Who here is happy/unhappy with your WUXGA display, I'm getting one, and hopefully :confused: won't have to change my order based on your thoughts.
     
  30. hanime

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    I'm happy with mine. Grainy screen? Nope, it's hard to notice it since it's a Hi-Definition screen. The resolution is pretty small on a 15.4" screen, but I get people saying "Whoa" when they see the laptop screen. :)
     
  31. Pauw

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    I hope I like it too, but was that "Whoa" for the small text size?
     
  32. Desai82

    Desai82 Notebook Guru

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    I noticed that Dell has taken the XPS M1530 WSXGA+ option off the website.
    Perhaps they are installing LG screens with remaining WSXGA+ orders. I know I have been waiting a month and I have just recieve an email stating that the shipment will be delayed 1 week. :(
     
  33. measel

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    Or it is possible that they couldn't meet the demand for LG WSXGA+ and took it off the market till issue is fixed with samsung one. Who knows.
     
  34. webjeff

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    I have it, I think the colors are great... the black levels aren't the greatest, but I don't know if any of the other models would be better.

    Oh yea, it bleeds a little at the bottom, but I don't notice it and well, it doesn't bother me either.

    Overall, I'm very happy.

    [edit]
    Sorry, I have a M1730... I misread your title, it might be similar, not sure.

    Jeff.
     
  35. Fountainhead

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    Yeah. My guess is the headache with the crappy Samsung screens has become more that they wish to deal with, and they simply can't keep up offering only LG screens.

    This is troubling, because I've got a 1680x1050 equipped M1530 in Boxing right now. Seems like a given it's going to be stuck with a Samsung screen. :(
     
  36. Pauw

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    That's okay, may be similar to the xps m1530, it seems to me that switching to non-native resolution wouldn't be too bad for typing, I noticed no bluriness on a 17'' when resolution was lowered. Thus the small text mayent be an issue?
     
  37. Udi

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    If you're comfortable with it, the text size is no issue. If you're not comfortable with it, you'll get used to it.

    I've used UXGA (1600x1200) on a 15" display for the last 5 years, using a WUXGA on the 15.4" display was pretty much identical and I love it.

    Once you go high res, you'll never go back. Good luck. :)
     
  38. imdashep

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    Are you glad you choose it over the LED 1440x900?
     
  39. RingLeadr

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    I absolutely love my 1920x1200 and wouldn't trade it for another screen.
     
  40. vengance_01

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    While I agree the WUXGA Screen is great, its not so great for gaming unless you don't mind running in non-native resolutions. Granted for normal desktop usage, the extra resolution is fantastic.
     
  41. wywern209

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    yeah, but for games, the games that are recent scale pretty well on the resolutions.
     
  42. imdashep

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    So for non gamers, is it worth it?
     
  43. Pauw

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    If you are a non gamer from what I've come to understand, this is most definitely worth it to you. Your movies/multimedia will look great, and you can run 1080p. You'll also have all that screen space :D
     
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    Has anyone played many games w/ WUXGA? I plan on playing a few games and I'm wondering if it still looks great at lower non native resolutions.
     
  45. Pauw

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    I'm currently researching various portable speaker solutions for my future xps m1530. I got the creative x fi sound card and have found the JBL - Duet 2.0 Powered Speaker System to be affordable and have good sound quality. My question is if this system using stand auxilary input or other portable usb powereded speakers are all compatible, and run through the x fi sound card?
     
  46. Lucanesti

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    Honestly I would rec. some nice headphones instead. Much more portable, and better sound quality.
     
  47. Pauw

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    I have some nice sure headphones, but would like some nice portable speakers for playing music/watching movies with others.
     
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    I think I might change to LED after reading how great it its, who here would change to LED?
     
  50. Lucanesti

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    If I would of not ordered the LED, I would of reordered.
     
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