XPS15 9560 Kaby Lake Product Page.....

I don't see why not. Apple is doing it, thus, one can expect Dell to copy them. My guess is that the 4K screen will require the dGPU, but the 1080p will come without (at least at first). My bet is on the following four SKUs options:

1. Low-end 1080p i5 model without dGPU and small SDD + HDD, small battery
2. High-end 1080p i7 model without dGPU, SSD, small battery
3. High-end 1080p i7 model with dGPU, SSD, and big battery --not at lunch
4. High-end 4K i7 model with dGPU, SSD, and big battery

 

I wanna see this but I also kinda doubt it, at least from what I've seen in the past. Also why would you need the dGPU for 4k?

 

To play games in 1080p fullscreen mode. In Windows and with text it's ugly yes, but games do not suffer that much from the upscaling.

 

Right but why would that have anything to do with the 4k model?

 

The 9550 was essentially sold with three graphics card options:

1. nvidia 960M
2. Intel graphics
3. nvidia quadro m1000m (for similar "Precision" series model 5510)

I didn't notice option if #2 was sold at release but wasn't paying attention. A lot of option #2 were being offered by dell in Q4 2016.

As ATHONLINE noted above, Dell mentioned that option #2 would be available. If it not on the website, call or chat with Dell sales rep. It may not be available in first batches but who knows...

Also see comments on TB3 x2 x4 questions above. That could impact eGPU performance significantly, particularly if you want to use the laptop's internal screen...

 

intel GPU will probably be available at launch, its how they'll get to the base price.

It probably won't be available with the i7 GPU, as Dell likes to limit options that way.

I'll be ordering this config from the dell website
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1Q0M4O

But with +fingerprint reader and + 10 pro vs home. Not cheap, but best.

 

Dell definitely sold the i7 with the Intel onboard graphics on the 9550. But to ilkhan's point, that may or may not be available at launch.

 

Yes, I'm waiting for somebody to confirm TB3 x2/x4. I think I'd only consider the Intel option if it is TB3 x4.

 

I have the top of the current XPS 15 with the 1tb SSD 4k, 16gb model which I just bought before Christmas, the big draw for me is that bigger battery, I am disappointed with my current battery life. Also I used a Lenovo 910 for a month with the fingerprint hello option and it is VERY cool, great when somewhere public and you want to unlock you laptop.

I may just return my current unit and get a store credit and sit it out until the new 9560 is in stock.

 

The 4k screen is a significant power hog. I've been very happy with the battery time on my Precision 5510 (FHD display). Compare the Notebookcheck reviews of the XPS15 9550 versions with the two display options. They are what confirmed my gut feeling to get the FHD panel.

John

 

Yes, I might have went FHD too but the unit I bought was at Best Buy and I purchased it for $2k, which was a really good price.

 

/facepalm

Dell spells quality with a W

 

I wont reply to the Pm as you posted it up here, I didn't know half the answers anyway

 

Haha no worries, you wrote "you don't know half the answers", mind if you share the answers to the other half of my concerns?

 

1, Does the advanced power options adaptive brightness option work? (enable adaptive brightness?

2, dunno

3 in a command prompt type "powercfg -requests" and see if it tells you whats stopping sleep?

4, no option to make it flash

 

Business choice. Same reason why Apple keeps the dGPU option only for the most expensive SKU they got. If you want to do any gaming, it forces you to go all out and pay extra. Otherwise, a "cheap" Dell XPS 15 1080p with a beefy 1050 (4GBs over standard 2GBs) may eat some of Alienware 13 non-1060 sales. The new AW13 is heavy and not great on battery, this would had pushed people who want a balance between portability and power to the XPS 15. Dell already said they want to differentiate the XPS and Alienware lines further. Last generation they failed to do that; the AW 13 (which is their portable gaming machine) had a dual-core CPU and for some time the same GPU as the XPS 15.

 

Anybody knows why there is no price on dell 9560 page ?

The CES show already close and there is still not open the price about 9560, not even a info about when will be open sale. That's a strange thing.

 

So you lucky guys in the US, here you (may) go!

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9560-laptop/

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9560-laptop/pd?ref=PD_Family

Twitter: https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/818880023603970048

First devices could be configured. But I wonder about the missing fingerprint sensor and the 1080p version seems to have the bigger battery too. Maybe there are some typos which will disappear soon.

 

I wonder if it is going to be similar to last year, mainly the i3 no discrete GPU option, being exclusive to US.

 

Any word if the new 9560 is HDMI 2.0 on the built in port?
I don't think we've heard confirmation that the TB3 implementation has been fixed to PCIe x4, but on new page for 9560 under ports it specifically says: Thunderbolt 3 support: Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps Bi-Directional). Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the 9550 with only PCI x2 there was no way to get 40Gbps of data going into the laptop, the 40Gbps going out being 16gbps on PCI and 32 DisplayPort. Should be good news then, right? Or at least rationale for return if needed

 

I have seen no confirmation of x4.

In the egpu.io link above, one of the gurus explains why slick Intel marketing text closes doors on "return rationale" for the 9550. Based on the 9550 marketing I would assume nothing at this point on the 9560...

 

I went i5/4k/8GB/256GB and have a 2x8GB RAM and 500GB SSD on order as well. Easy enough to install, I get dual channel RAM this way (the dell config is almost certainly a single 16GB stick, the 9550 was), and I was going to clean install 10 insider anyway.

 

Just scanned that forum again; they say it looks like Dell committed no previous error as inclusion of TB3 does not automatically include PCI x4. The TB3 spec allows for PCIe x2, and the 40gbps advertised by Dell is 16 from PCIe and 24 of displayport data traffic.
However, for the XPS 9560 Dell is clearly advertising 40Gbps bi-directionally. My idea is this: since DisplayPort data is only sent from the computer, a TB3 implementation with only 2 two lanes of PCIe would never be able to achieve 40Gbps of any data type through TB3 from any source into the laptop/sink
Agree we can't assume anything as true from Dell, but checking if this rationale is correct

 

The 9550 also advertises 40Gbps bi-directional.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9550-laptop

 

Yeah, you're right. So absolutely no relevance to 9560 assumptions.
But how is it possible to get 40Gbps of data flowing into the 9550 with only PCIe x2?

 

Anyone can confirm that new 9560 can install a 2.5 inch hard-drive with the same cable as 9550 ?

Another question is there is only 8G option on there page, and if I want to upgrade by myself, is it possible ? The 8G setting is 4Gx2 or 8Gx1 by default ?

I may go for a i7, 8G, 256G SSD version and upgrade ram & hard-drive by myself.

Thanks in advanced.

 

Prices and configurations for the US are up:
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9560-laptop/pd

Western Gents United posted this in a video, credit to him!

EDIT: The prices differ from the ones in the video, seems a bit peculiar.

 

Sorry, the same wording in the 9550 sales propaganda. However, its TB3 is 40Gbps, is bi-directional, though is not bi-directional the whole Gbps ;( If it matters to you, you could try asking Dell salespeople specifically if the 9560 supports PCIe 3.0 x4 over TB3, unlike the 9550. And similarly regarding 4K @60Hz via the HDMI port.

 

You posted the link to the Dell Business page which is different from Dell Home.

 

TB3 combines DP and PCIe. Mind 40Gbps is not even enough for two 4K@60Hz displays plus PCIe3 x4 at once.

 

So I did. Thanks for pointing out!

 

Interesting, the wifi spec has been lowered from 3x3 to 2x2

 

probably due to the new wireless card

 

Two questions brought up here but not yet addressed:

1. Is the 16gb ram option 2x 8gb or 1x 16gb? Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that 2x8gb is faster and better than 1x16gb?

2. Is there any significant difference buying through Dell Business vs Dell Home?

 

Yeah, they are using the Killer 1535 which is 2x2.

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Only possible with the FHD screen. With 4k/touch its either i5/8GB/256GB or i7/16GB/512GB

Dell Business starts with win 10 pro, a $50 upgrade. If you only want home you can downgrade and they give you back the $50.

1: The 9550 was 1x16GB. Dual channel is faster, yes. The 9560 page doesn't specify, but I doubt its changed.

2: Starts with win10 pro, additional support options.

 

Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

 

My 9550 has 2x8GB.

 

Interesting. The config page specified 1x8 or 1x16 the last month I've been looking at them.

"16GB (1x16G) 2133MHz DDR4 Memory"

 

It's whatever dell has in stock. Mine was 2x8gb.

 

I think Dell may be doing single sticks as they list an upgrade now. Probably wrong but who knows.
I also had twin sticks in all mine

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FYI: Dell business has a 15% off coupon that applies to the 9560. "TRIPLEDISCOUNT". It said "expired" on the dell Home side, but worked when I tried it on business side. So my Amazon order got canceled and I'm now direct from Dell, richer by a factory 10Pro image and a year of accident coverage, and also richer by $200.

Interesting.

On the 9550 side it would be very poor form for Dell to advertise a single stick and then plop in 2 from the factory.

 

Does anybody know what hard drives are in the 9560?
I asked Dell chat and they only knew it was a Samsung drive (I asked about the 512GB model).

 

For those of you in Canada looking to place an order I found that you can stack the below two coupons. I ordered the i7, FHD, 16gb, 512gb for $1829.99 yesterday using these. Remember to use your ebates.ca link as well for some extra cash back.

10%OFFXPS
$150OFF$1699PC

 

I posted this on RFD/Reddit. The 10% off coupon doesn't work anymore, as I think it was just an oversight by Dell. So no more stacking.
I think I got the same model as you.

 

Well I am really glad I pulled the trigger at noon yesterday I was going back and forth on whether to get the 4k screen, but decided the FHD was the better choice for me.

 

I also couldn't justify the extra CAD360 ($400-10%) for 4k touch.

 

If 2x8 is significantly faster than 1x16 how the hell does Dell get away with randomly just giving whatever they have in stock on a premium laptop? Isn't this a big deal where they should be doing it the best way possible???

 

The 9550 page says single stick now, it may not have before. But afaik single stick has been Dell's general policy for a while. The 9560 page doesn't specify. Single stick leaves room for a very easy upgrade, but 2 sticks is (marginally) faster.

 

I really do not think that this would make a noticeable difference for most people. I would prefer they give me the 1x16 stick, so that I could choose if I want to upgrade using the second slot in the future.