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    temps for xps m1530 high?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by badhairdude, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. F1r3ball

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    "The thing I can't figure out is how the area around the touchpad and to the right of it, is also hot - There's nothing under it to actually get hot, only the express cards motherboard connector and I've nothing using the express card slot, So??"

    Just touch the laptop where you WLAN card is. My laptop was hot as hell there and there is no bloody reason to have a hot spot near to a WLAN card. After they replaced my heatsink assembly its not that hot anymore but it stillt doesnt make any sense. Also the touchpad was very hot on my M1530. I think its a failure....a really bad failure because its bullshi* that the touchpad and the surrounding area gets bloody hot and where the GPU and the CPU is there is almost nothing to feel.
     
  2. yomamasfavourite

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    Exactly!
    All the rest is cold, even the area over the gpu and cpu which you would think would get hot naturally, but its not, except for the area around the touchpad, very odd!
     
  3. REY619

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    EXACTLY!!! The whole of the bottom is just slight warm, but the area where the WLAN card resides, is hot as ****. :O
     
  4. Koer

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    yep same problem here, although i would not call it a problem, simply because its both: the WLAN card ( mine is intel next gen N) and the HDD ( witch runs at 7200RPM)
    an both generate a lot of heat, and they are designed to have passive cooling, such as your palmrest.

    i have had similar experiences with the dell x1, witch is a very slim and small laptop, but has passive cooling even for the CPU, no fans :D and it gets hot as hell in the area where the wireless card is, but lowering its power or range made it run much cooler.

    So, no its not faulty, just **** powerful ;D
     
  5. F1r3ball

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    Iam pretty sure its not the purpose to have a laptop where the passive cooling is that "good" that I cant even put my wrist on the palmrest because its to hot... and where my HDD is there are gaps under it for the air. Why does is get bloody hot above it ? Above the CPU or the GPU or the RAM there is nothing to feel and I think the distance is pretty much the same for CPU to keyboard or RAM to keyboard or HDD to palmrest.
    When I put my hand under the HDD = just warm. Above it = in action dont touch...to hot.
    When I put my hand under the gap where the RAm is = hot . Thats how it should be.
    What I also dont understand is that I switched my WLAN off because I dont need it. Why is it still that hot ?
    Maybe , Koer , you have a different laptop as I have. Maybe they built some other stuff in yours or we are talking about different laptops because I dont have the 2.6 GHz CPU, not the 320 GB HDD,not the 1920x1200 and also not the 9 cell battery.
     
  6. vinumsv

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    Here is a update :

    after calling Dell regarding this issue , they have replaced my motherboard and GFX Card with new heat sink ...

    here is my old Heat Sink and MB + GPU

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  7. REY619

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    ^^ so any differences in temperatures after the replacement??
     
  8. weiser

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    @yomama, is not i don't believe you, but i'd just like some right comparison, could you use CPUID Harware Monitor to see your temps, instead of that one?
    Thanks.
     
  9. vinumsv

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    I haven't tested it thoroughly but it looks fine when i ran 3dmark06 for almost 5 mins and max temp it reached was 73C compared to my previous reading of 113C Max.

    I will check it once i go home from work and report it back here guys and The rep told me that the heat sink was broken due to overheating and if i have left it like that it would have damaged my MB too :(
     
  10. yomamasfavourite

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    Yeah, I'll give it a go later, when I get home if I've time.
    Though each different software package is merely reading the same temperature sensor chips. So I don't know what difference you expect to see?
     
  11. weiser

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    Ok, thanks =)
    I've saw already how 2 differents soft, were showing 2 dif temps at the same time!
     
  12. vinumsv

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    Here is my new temp reading after running rthdribl for 15mins

    [​IMG]

    and now it looks normal but let me do some real scenario tests like games ...
     
  13. yomamasfavourite

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    Emm.. normal?

    Cpu temperatures over 80 certainly aren't good.
     
  14. weiser

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    I have the same temps on CPU as vinumsv while playing, and yes, they scares me out, but we need to know that:

    vinumsv CPU:
    T7500
    Voltage 1.0375 - 1.30V
    Manufacturing Tech 65 nm


    yomama CPU:
    T8300
    Voltage 1.00V-1.250V
    Manufacturing Tech 45 nm


    That makes another degrees difference, anyway, yomama temps are very nice, and i can't understand why theres so much difference.
     
  15. yomamasfavourite

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    What heatsink/heatpipe type have you got?
     
  16. vinumsv

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    What :eek: I thought that temp range is ok :(

    anyway here is my idle temp readings

    [​IMG]
     
  17. yomamasfavourite

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    Well look at it this way, your particular cpu hitting 100 is like your gpu hitting 125
     
  18. yomamasfavourite

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    funnily enough they do report differently.
    Picture 1 Idle
    Picture 2 loaded - both same settings as before.
     

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    Well if you check the US dell website you will find out that the max settings for the xps m1530 are the ones i said, and are also the ones i have currently on this lappy :D

    Yoma, i find this to be something that has always happened to me, what i do is just to stick with one ( HWMonitor ).

    But still, a CPU running at room temperature is just incredible :D

    and by the way i was just fixing my sister's HP dv6000, and i noticed that its GPU, a geforce go 6150, idles at 80C ( LOL WUT!!!!) and i was complaining about mine.... sheesh....
     
  20. weiser

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    well, it was just a little difference :)
    good to know that u still have that amazing temps on your CPU, i just can't believe they reach 40º stressing them out, thats even less than my idle temp...

    rawrrrrr i want those temps too :(

    just wondering, whats the room temp??
     
  21. SirIron

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    Hi everybody,

    I´ve just found this discussion and get a little bit concerned:

    I own a XPS 1530 T7500 for about 8 month now.
    The device works still fine. Usually I only work with Office Applications and very less
    gaming. But when starting a game for just about 10 minutes I noticed a very high temperature flow:

    - See attached picture -

    Especial because the notebook stands on a aluminium cooling device with 3 extra fans!

    Intel appoint a max temperature of 100C I am actually very close: (ww.msc-ge.com/download/itmain/datasheets/intel/Core2Duomobile.pdf)

    I dont know how much is ok for the GPU, but the temperature is still high too.
    Could this be one of the faulty grafic devices too?

    What will Dell say about this? Fortunately I have bought the 4 years warrenty.

    I dont want to fry my notebook, so any suggestions?
     

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    Hi SirIron, 1st of all, yes that temps are pretty high, all of them, check that the fans and so are clean, no dust and etc. If they are clean, contact dell support, theres something wrong there and since your xps is still in warranty, just let them do the job.

    You could even try to update your bios and so, but i think that temps wont be fixed with a newer bios, so just call dell.

    Wish you luck with it!!
     
  23. vinumsv

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    98C max for CPU and 95C for Gpu are bit high mate :(

    Try giving a call to dell they might change the Heatsink / motherbaord / GPU Combo for you

    Recently i did and they changed my Heat Sink / Motherboard / GPU combo and now i think they are under respectable temp ranges ...
     
  24. xtrasux

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    After reading the thread im a bit worried about my system, should I give dell a ring?

    Max is after gaming for about 30minutes, at that stage performance seems to go down alot, making games that were running fine unplayable. Current temp is just running firefox.
     

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    xtrasux, ur ACPI and CPU temps, are quite high, but i think is still "on range", your GPU is not, at least in my case when it pass the 85º it's starts to drop performance.

    About your current temp is just fine, the only thing that would get me worried is the GPU reaching 90+º, if you don't mind, call dell.

    GL with it.
     
  26. yomamasfavourite

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    I don't know I don't have any temperature thermometers or anything like that, Though I wear T-shirts most of the time so its not cold.
     
  27. D_Sage44

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    For a quick fix while you wait for support to go through so you can use it, try undervolting the CPU should give you 10C less or so and should give you some runtime on it with out killing it, Checkout flipfires Undervolting guide in the aftermarket upgrade forum section, ill edit in a link.

    xtrasux, try the same thing for a quick temp fix.

    UNDERVOLTING Guide ----------> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824
     
  28. F1r3ball

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    I dont get the point why people should undervolt the CPU. Its Dells fuc*ing job to sell CPUs working fine in our laptops without any fixes. I also tried the undervolting and I noticed nothing...not even 5 degrees and the problem with the GPU still exists.
    I just want to tell you guys that Dell will send out another technician to my place in the next days. I asked for a new mainboard, new screen (grainy shi*) with an ATI GPU if its possible :p but I think they will just swap the old mainboard with another old one with the 8600M GT so the GPU core problem still exists. Maybe I also can grap a new HDD...I keep you guys updated.
     
  29. Koer

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    okay, after reading all your posts il stop complaining about my temps :D
     
  30. badhairdude

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    i undervolted and now my idle cpu is like 46 and my gpu around 63 celsius

    is that good??

    if under load my cpu goes to around 80-82.
     
  31. F1r3ball

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    Ok guys an update : Dell sends another technician out within the next 2 working days. This time the bloke really replaces the whole thing which should be a new non grainy screen,a new mainboard and maybe another heatsink assembly. Lets see how its goes in the next days.
     
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    agree about the uv, and gl with the technician!
     
  33. mogliD

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    I encountered something rather unusual...

    The temperatures are most of the time normal (I think)-
    idle: CPU 44 GPU 62
    load: CPU 59 GPU 71

    But if i leave my laptop for about 2-3 hours (maybe goes into sleep mode??), and then try to run a game (PES 2009) then temps flare up to CPU 99, GPU 116 (!!!!).
    This only happened a couple of times so i'm not sure exactly how and why this happens... any idea?
     
  34. v_c

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    I just had my M1530 motherboard replaced (due to faulty USB ports), and the new temps are waay higher than previously.

    Before it would never go much higher than 80C (GPU temp) under load, but now, it shoots up to around 95/96 almost instantly, and then just downclocks/upclocks in a constant cycle.

    Like I said, the motherboard was just replaced, so maybe the tech did a bad job reassmbling the heatsink or something.... Ive contacted them already so we'll see what happens.
     
  35. vinumsv

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    Whoa :eek: Thats Hot !! mate , give a call to dell to replace your heatsink
     
  36. F1r3ball

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    Yes CPU 59 and GPU 71 under load is very good...at the moment my GPU is running up to 90.
    The Dell technician is coming at 3-4pm today. I give you guys a report what happened.
     
  37. scottbenntt

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    Hi all

    I just managed to use i8kfan GUI and my fan know go at 4600rpm better then some cars lol. any way i have also undervolted mt T9500 and i idle at a arctic 40* celcius. i am very happy. :p

    standered rpm is 3800. i belive

    Ow and i just notice the other day my fan grills where cloged fan still ran cleaned it out after it hit a wopping 90-100* celcius. i nearly burnt my hand anyway i did all that know my gaming temp hovers around 70-75.
     
  38. F1r3ball

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    Ok guys the dell guy is gone.
    He was here for 4.25 hours. He replaced the mainboard, the display and we tried to start the laptop. Nothing to see...hmm strange.
    He built the new mainboard out and built my old mainboard in. Nothing to see.
    We just unplugged the display wire and tried to start it. It worked fine.
    The technician rang dell or somebody who is representing dell in the service section and asked for more money because he is allready here for 4 hours and he doesnt want to work anymore for the basic rate they give him.
    Dell refused.
    The technician just screwed the last screws in, let my lcd unplugged and told me I have to wait until tuesday. I can use my external monitor which works fine.

    So what do you guys think about that ?
    I allready wrote dell an email that I want to have a new laptop as a replacement because I think the dell technicians here in Canberra are unable to replace parts. If I dont get a fair compensation I will write a complaint to the headquarter in Sydney and to the local newspaper agencys how they shi* on customers by leave not working parts in my laptop and then leave the customer alone. I cant use my laptop now as a laptop as the LCD is unplugged. Iam feeling cheated by Dell!
     
  39. yomamasfavourite

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    If it took him four and a half hours to do just that, I wouldn't pay him more either. Though that is pretty ****ty service to get.
     
  40. loman

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    Man.. it appears there are more versions of heatsinks than I initially thought. Here's my post regarding two different heatsinks in a replacement M1530 and the one I had to send back. However, I never had overheating issues with both of them (although the copper one runs a lil bit cooler).

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=308359&highlight=m1530+heatsink
     
  41. jb1007

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    Do the temps stay that high? Keep running that same scenario and use riva tuner to monitor the GPU temp. If it's just a spike that lasts for a few seconds then it's probably the drivers relaying the information incorrectly when coming out of a sleep state. That would be my guess because your temps seem normal except for the spike and if your GPU was in the 100's for more than 30 seconds, the system would automatically shut down. If it's not shutting down then the temperature spike "may" be reported in error. I would investigate it further to be certain though.
     
  42. xtrasux

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    Got a technician around yesterday, replaced the mainboard and the cooling stuff. Runs alot cooler now, and can actually play games on reccommened seettings now :D

    New temps are after gaming for about 4 hours.
     

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    hey, i got the same problem as xtrasux when playing fallout 3. My card peaked at 91 degrees! Im going to get them to replace it, i emailed them about it late night 2 days ago, should be getting a reply today.

    Im afraid my CPU is being weakened by the temperature problem though.
     
  44. F1r3ball

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    "
    The temperatures are most of the time normal (I think)-
    idle: CPU 44 GPU 62
    load: CPU 59 GPU 71

    But if i leave my laptop for about 2-3 hours (maybe goes into sleep mode??), and then try to run a game (PES 2009) then temps flare up to CPU 99, GPU 116 (!!!!).
    This only happened a couple of times so i'm not sure exactly how and why this happens... any idea?"

    I can tell you that the temperatures are wrong. The GPU doesnt heat up to 116 because its not possible :) If it goes over 100 it has an emergency shutdown and thats what happens if it goes over 100 so it cant be 116. I think its an error that happens when the sensor tries to get the data or something like that. It also cant be because the GPU would not survive 116 C for a long time :)
     
  45. scottbenntt

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    Read it and wheap

    Load.
    GPU : 98-104+
    CPU: 80-95+

    it turn itself off on hot days

    I totally win ;) :p :D :p ;)
     
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    hey, my temps are about 94 deg celcius when load and my idle temps are around 73. The GPU temps hit 94 while playing football manager 2009 with a web browser in the background. There are nothing blocking my vents. Should i ask dell to come down to check my laptop out? If so, what should they replace? motherboard and heat sink?

    Temps CPU 55~88
    GPU 73~94

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Zac
     
  47. F1r3ball

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    Yes the mainboard and the heatsink assembly should be replaced because 94 is to high for the GPU.
     
  48. felagund

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    my CPU stays low but my GPU goes up to 89 when I play Fallout 3
    sometimes when i play for a longer period of time (like more than half an hour or maybe 1 hour) i notice the performance going progressively down (happens when I play TF2 or Fallout 3)

    I keep the air below the notebook flowing and the exaust is not covered but it's no use

    I'm waiting my notebook cooler right now (It's supposed to arrive in like 10 days)

    and also I don't have warranty atm - i'm supposed to (maybe) get it in like a month and a half cuz right now i'm in a different country and less than 6 months have passed (I filed an application for an ownership change cuz a friend of mine bought it like 4 months ago in the US for me - i was there and i've been the only user but i didn't have a bank account also i hope i'm not gonna be charged for any techies work on my hardware if i need to use my warranty if i ever get it)

    I hope i can get my warranty

    When (If) i get it what should i do in order to get my mobo changed or maybe have the technitians do something else for my heat issues?
     
  49. mmhorda

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    well here is my snapshot.
    The thing is that this values can vary. depends on what OS you are using. what kid of battery you are using, AERO on/off, etc.
    i read somewhere that Asus claims that even 103C when stressed is ok for 8600M GT.

    So i dont think you guys have to worry about it too much unless your temperature is really high.
     

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    Well for the 8600 gt 100 degrees is okay, Ideally you'd like to have it running a bit lower, but its still far enough away from its thermal limit of 125.

    However if your core duo is hitting near a hundred - I'd be getting seriously worried.
    Core duos are supposed to run cool, nowhere near their tdp of around 100 degrees.
     
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