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    Dell and Video Cards...some can be replaced

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by srdhkl, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. mach1

    mach1 Newbie

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    This isn't possible I believe due to space/fan/ventilation requirements. I haven't seen anyone that has done this.
     
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    theguy1985 Newbie

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    khanhfat Notebook Deity

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    There're many threads about upgrade ur video cards on NOtebookforums.com . Some people puts 7900GTX in their 9400 already, but the price of the cards is bloody expensive.

    ANyone found any trusted site to buy 7900GS??? or 7800 for 9400?? Some users on NOtebookforums.com couldn't make a connection to get those cards.
     
  4. dant98

    dant98 Newbie

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    I'm still trying to piece some things together. I've got the E1705. Great laptop overall, but I bought it from the Dell Outlet and didn't really get everything I wanted. Mainly, I'm stuck with the "integrated" graphics card. Now I'm a pc guy and my experiance with integrated cards mean that they are actually physically part of the mainboard. I was told I can't upgrade the card because it's an "integrated" card.

    So I'm thinking, well, OK, but why would dell have two different mainboards for hte same model laptop?

    So I opened my laptop up and there is in fact a graphics card in what I assume is a PCIe card slot. It doesn't have a heatsink or anything like the higher end cards, but it is a card there nonetheless.

    Now, I read some reference that maybe they limit the card by the bios, though I imagine an E1705 bios is the same regardless of the video card. I know Windows tells me I have an Intel integrated card, but yet it isn't physicall integrated like I'd expect.

    So is this expected, or at some point did dell offload the "integrated" graphics to it's own PCIe card and sell the laptop the same way. From a finance standpoint this would make sence. Then they'd only have to produce one motherboard for that laptop. Maybe I'm just confuse about what an "integrated" card is on a laptop. Can anyone shine some lite onto this for me? I'd love to get a better card in there. Heck, even an X300 would be a step up from this thing.

    Thanks,

    -Dan
     
  5. kitman

    kitman Newbie

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    hi what about the dell latitude 840 can you replace the video card with an
    ATI 9600 128 MB
     
  6. keving

    keving Notebook Guru

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    I have a e1505 with..... 128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1300 HyperMemory

    Can I buy a.....
    256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory
    Dell Recommended for an enhanced Windows Vista experience

    from what I read in past posts it should work I just want final confirmation form you guys.
     
  7. benna

    benna Notebook Evangelist

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    Cam the XPS M1210's GPU be upgraded
     
  8. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    We already answerd that question in your previous post, yes you can, BUT, unless your a gamer, you'll be flushing your money away. The X1300 is more than capeable of handling vista, if you want to improve your systems performance look at upgrading your ram to 2 gb, or get a faster hard drive. Digging up an old post wont make a bad idea into a good one. If you really want to put in an x1400, by all means do so, for your stated needs, NOTHING will change, your gaming experience will be improved, as you stated earlier you are not a gamer, so you wont gain anything, except a lighter wallet and psossibly borking your system during the swap.

    I just put vista on a friends E1505 with an x1300, desktop and general video performance are the same as my desktop system with a 7900GT, gaming perfomance is naturally a different story, but areo and video playback are the same, its runs nice and smooth, if your going by Dells statement for "an enhanced vista experience" its advertising, it will enhance your gaming over the x1300, but thats all. Your money would be better spent on something else.
     
  9. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    No, the 7400 is the only dedicated GPU available for the M1210. If dell starts selling another card for it, you could switch to that, though its highly unlikely anything better will be offered.
     
  10. Viper114

    Viper114 Notebook Consultant

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    I take it that an Inspiron 9400/E1705 is capable of upgrading the graphics card? By looking at screens of numerous topics on the graphics card, it seems that there is a connector from the card to the motherboard that will read whatever graphics card will fit, right? I was thinking that at some point in the not-so-near future, I could upgrade my 7900 GS to either a 7800 GTX, 7900 GTX, or even a 7950 GTX. Those three can fit, right?
     
  11. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    Fit is only part of it, It has to be a card supported by your particular model, otherwise you will have no bios support and a non functioning system.
     
  12. Viper114

    Viper114 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I know a 7800 GTX will work, there are steps in this very forum on how to exchange your 7900 GS for a 7800 GTX. But, could a 7900 GTX or 7950 GTX run on an Inspiron 9400/E1705? Dell's site doesn't say anything other than you can choose an ATI X1400 or nVidia 7900 GS, which isn't much help.
     
  13. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    The gtx mod doesnt give you full functionality of the card as of the last time I read about it. GPU upgrades in notebooks are very seldom worth the expense and effort. The best rule of thumb is to get what you need right off the bat,as there are really no "practical" upgrades, I could understand dropping the $400-500 on a card if you came across an extremely cheap or free laptop with a borked card, but thats really about it. Going from a 7900"GSX" to a 7950 GTX wont give you that much of an improvement, you dont mention your screen res in your sig, but if your locked into 1400x900, the 512 video mem wont do much of anything. For the cost of an uber high end laptop vid card, you could be well on your way to a very decent gaming desktop system, with lots of room to grow.
     
  14. Viper114

    Viper114 Notebook Consultant

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    I run mine on the native 1920X1200 resolution for the 9400. I only reduce the resolution within games.

    Well, I figure it was worth checking out. I was mainly looking towards the 7950, though I don't know if it would really work out. I don't even know where to actually buy one, most web sites I know of don't have those kinds of cards for sale.

    Ah well, the 7900 GS is still **** good. It's the 4th best video card for laptops according to nVidia's site, and overclocking it to the recommended 450/1100 helped a lot. I need to focus on upgrading my RAM first, provided I can get the money...
     
  15. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    2 gig of ram will have a much greater impact.
     
  16. arrow1234

    arrow1234 Notebook Enthusiast

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    lol seriously, i went to ati and nvidia official web site, can't even find any mobility or GO card, dont even mention any of my local computer store, where can you guys buy laptop video card then?
     
  17. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The card had to be offered in the laptop you're interested in upgrading, and you can only purchase it through Dell as it is a Dell made and Dell designed part.
     
  18. arrow1234

    arrow1234 Notebook Enthusiast

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    well but some people out there are making tutorial of how to upgrade your gfx card in ur laptop by yourself, like this one:
    http://www.legitreviews.com/article/349/2/

    that guy is upgrading his dell e1705 Notebook Graphics Card from old x1400 to a new 7800GO(again by himself), my question is where he could get his new 7800GO card?

    thank you for the reply :)
     
  19. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    The 7950GTX does fit the E1705, and it's not difficult at all. I just finished the upgrade yesterday, and all is gravy thus far. The latest E1705 bios works with the GTX (recognizes it immediately), and Dell's 92.77 drivers for the M1710 work as well.

    Remember to get the 130W power brick. In light of the BSOD/2-prong AC adapter issue, it might be good to get this regardless of doing the upgrade or not.
     
  20. arrow1234

    arrow1234 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hmm, lets say, as an example, can u change ur 7950gtx to radeon mobility x1800?
     
  21. shima

    shima Notebook Consultant

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    No, since Dell never offered the X1800 in the E1705/M1710 lineup. All of Dell's video cards use a propietary cooling solution mated to the chassis, so the only upgrades you can perform on the E1705/M1710 are limited to the cards that were offered for the E1705/M1710 (provided you didn't start out with integrated graphics, then you're SOL due to incompatible motherboard).

    E1705's X1400 or 7800 or 7900GS single-pipe --> E1705's 7800 or 7900GS single pipe / M1710's 7900GS dual-pipe or 7900GTX or 7950GTX

    M1710's 7900GS dual pipe or 7900GTX --> 7900GTX or 7950GTX.

    Those are the possible upgrade paths for these models.
     
  22. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    NO you cannot.

    :cry: :no: :cry:
    I'm not a religious being by any stretch of the imagination, but I have just decided I'm giving up laptop video card upgrade post responses for Lent, I may even stretch it out to make up for the last 20 something years. If that fails in preserving an oz. of my sanity, at least it will most likely help deter the onset of carpal tunnel.
     
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  23. sydney_australia

    sydney_australia Notebook Guru

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    HI.

    I know this is possibly a repeat of many questions in this thread but.

    Does this mean - in theory - when i buy my M1710 XPS,
    it will come with the 256 Ge force Video card by default.

    If i then call up dell 6 mnths later and say id like to upgrade my card to a 512 mb ge force, as long as it is the exact model video card as per below the image i have included below from dell.com.au - that was offerred at time of sale they should simply be able to upgrad oit for a large fee righht@@!@

    keep in mind, im happt o but it direct from dell !!
     

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  24. mEP

    mEP Newbie

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    One question, folks:
    If I buy my XPS today, will Dell be able to change the processor into a Santa Rosa at a later time? And also change the video card into a 8xxx?
    Or would that be impossible, as they have to change the motherboard and all?
     
  25. WackyT

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  26. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, 512MB isn't really going to help you. In theory, you could do it...but it is a waste of $$$.
     
  27. sydney_australia

    sydney_australia Notebook Guru

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    interesting,

    why u say that??

    its double the mb, surely it will nbe noticable?
     
  28. mujtaba

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    The amount of V-Ram is not a measure of the Graphics power.
    If the V-Ram is greater but the Chip is not able to make use of the extra memory, it is not going to make much of a difference.
     
  29. sydney_australia

    sydney_australia Notebook Guru

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    fair enough.

     
  30. coleshill

    coleshill Newbie

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    Hi, my graphics in my dell 9400 are a Intel Media Accelerator 950 graphics upto 128mb shared... Does this mean i wont be able to upgrade?
     
  31. The Goalkeeper

    The Goalkeeper Notebook Guru

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    What's the meanest graphics card I can put in my xps m1210 right now?
     
  32. coleshill

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    Anyone?? Please?
     
  33. The Goalkeeper

    The Goalkeeper Notebook Guru

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    I don't think that integrated graphics card can be replaced...then again i could be wrong
     
  34. Nedediah

    Nedediah Notebook Consultant

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    That's correct, you can't upgrade your graphics. To upgrade a 9400/e1705 you need to have a motherboard that takes a discrete GPU module - units with onboard video don't. You can upgrade your motherboard though.. I've seen them on ebay for around $200.

    I've wondered the same thing about the new Inspirons and Vostros but haven't heard anything specific.
     
  35. coleshill

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    Do you have an example I can see? E.G. A model number!
     
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    What are the odds that anything better than the 8600m gt will come out that will fit in the inspiron 1520?
     
  38. Mysticales

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    Anything better out there yet to replace the X1400 on the E1505?
     
  39. andreasnicolai

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    Question:

    I read in the start of the thread that Dell would upgrade your XPS if they had a better graphic solution. So if Dell comes with a better card than 8400m in a couple of months, then I would be able to just send my M1330 in and get it upgraded?


    (If this already is answeared I apologize for not taking the time reading through all the pages)


    Andreas
     
  40. ps2cho

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    They won't do it for you. Not a chance. You would have to buy it separately and put it in yourself.
     
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