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    Spill the Beans Dell Spill the Beans! Manufacturers Piling Up to Expose the World to Montevina.

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Forte, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. TheBossMan

    TheBossMan Notebook Consultant

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    I truly believe that Dell is not going to do anything with the Centrino 2, or at least not for a while because they plan to release Ubuntu on XPS 1530 in August after releasing the XPS 1330 with Ubuntu not to long ago.
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    That will be the XPS 1530 N, there will still be the standard 1530. :p
    Same with the 1525 and 1525N. :)
     
  3. glentium

    glentium Notebook Evangelist

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    all I can say is:

    "A watched pot never boils"

    :D
     
  4. deadstone2706

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    The answer is probably that Dell is waiting for the ship date of the Echo Peak chipset to go with the new processors

    I expect they want to roll out all the options in one go, with Echo Peak/Wimax, switchable graphics new NVidea GPU, large SSD options...the whole shebang!

    It's really not Dell's fault that Intel failed to ship Echo Peak at the same time, and delayed Centrino 2/Shirley Peak chipset for so long...

    If you look at all the current offerings, none of them are a revolutionary step forward in performance or battery running time... tho the Sony Vaio Z series is looking really good, but at an outrageous price...

    I will wait for the Echo Peak launch in mid-August/September, then expect Dell to come up with a refresh of the XPS 1330 and 1530 ...

    * Intel launches Centrino 2 with host of chipset improvements

    * Intel delays full introduction of Centrino 2 into Augustl

    * Intel Centrino 2 chips coming in two waves

    I want it NOW :)

    Damn Intel, they really are useless, first they mess up Vista Aero Glass Compatibility now they fail to deliver in time for Q3 !

    Philip
     
  5. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    I think most of us echo this sentiment. I really don't want to wait for WiMAX because I won't be using it.
     
  6. bbasra

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    They will have to do something. ie backlit keyboard. The XPS should have everything the Studio and inspiron has plus more.

    come on dell, wake up!

    I'll get the Sony Z otherwise.
     
  7. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Oh you will be. WiMAX is the way of the future! Though I think there is still plenty of time before it actually becomes the definite standard and perhaps by the time Dell rolls out the successor to its Montevina refresh, Intel will have made further revisions to it that improves upon it.
     
  8. Travis2375

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    I don't know much about WiMax. Why is it so great?
     
  9. atbnet

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    It is like 3G but with better speeds. You have to pay for the service anyhow.
     
  10. Travis2375

    Travis2375 Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK, so everyone on this thread is pretty much waiting on Dell to bring out something new that incorporates Centrino 2. But how many of us are actually going to buy the new models when they come out?
     
  11. scrhale

    scrhale Newbie

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    The first day I see an E series Latitude with montevina, I will be purchasing a laptop.
     
  12. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    My DPA is waiting alongside me for the Centrino 2 XPS 15XX.
     
  13. jpzsports

    jpzsports Notebook Evangelist

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    I've been waiting to purchase a Studio 17 with Centrino 2.
     
  14. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Centrino 2 is not the be all end all. Yes, technology advances, but you must consider performance gaps between the advancements.

    Take Dell, before the current Inspirons and XPS M1530, they had the 15.4'' Inspiron E1505 with a X1400 graphics card. Now in the present, we see the 8600GT. That is a HUGE difference and a huge leap in advancement.

    Montevina does include marginal increases to battery life and efficiency, but really, the graphics card will only be slightly better, though not as significant an amount. Best to get one now so that by the time the next big advancement jumps out, you won't have to pay to replace the current Montevina refresh simply because you were an early adopter.
     
  15. Travis2375

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    "Best to get one now so that by the time the next big advancement jumps out, you won't have to pay to replace the current Montevina refresh simply because you were an early adopter."

    But what if along with the 'marginal' performance increases you also get a new design featuring, lighted keyboard,slimmer lighter design,colors, personalization, etc. I mean if I buy a Studio today and next month Dell releases a new XPS model with centrino 2 and a hot new design I am going to be dissappointed with my shabby studio.
     
  16. Travis2375

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    Hey Forte, I was wondering if your avatar is a self portriat?
     
  17. D.A.

    D.A. Notebook Consultant

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    It also depends on what you are upgrading from. If you already have a pretty good laptop there is no real need for the upgrade, but if your laptop is older you may as well wait for a few more weeks.

    But as always, if you need a new laptop right now, buy it now.
     
  18. Travis2375

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    That's True.
     
  19. atbnet

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    The ones with Centrino 2 will be new models. I am also waiting for the 128 GB SSD. Plus I want to be as up to date as possible.
     
  20. tehguardian

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    I would have bought the xps1330 with that 25% coupon and get a killer system but the fear of getting nVidia graphics card stopped me

    now Dell better come out with something good, or im just gonna get a Sony SR

    btw my laptop is in my sig, so i think im due for a new thing. its slow as hell too
     
  21. Cin'

    Cin' Anathema

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    Goodness....still waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and so forth :eek:

    Where's that *virtue* for my *patience* ??? :p :D :rolleyes:
     
  22. Husar

    Husar Notebook Consultant

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    That lift bar still won't help if you are on a soft couch or bed(maybe) which is where most of those problems are caused.
     
  24. atbnet

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    Yes, he is really hot, isn't he? :rolleyes:
     
  26. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Sony's releasing 16.4 inch notebooks now. Where is that Montevina?

    Thats disturbing what you just said. Not all girls are poor with tech.
     
  27. Travis2375

    Travis2375 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The new Sony FW 16:9 ratio laptop looks sweet! Hopefully Dell out does it with their new models. ..... What if Dell dosent bring out any new models?! .... the only evidence we have of new Dell laptops is specualtion from forums like these. .... has anyone heard anything that positively indicates Dell is working on something new?
     
  28. Travis2375

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    What is 'poor with tech'?
     
  29. atbnet

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    I was told by one rep that Centrino 2 will be in the new models. So we'll see.
     
  30. jpzsports

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    Any idea when these new models will be out?
     
  31. atbnet

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    Nope, I wait in the dark too. If the reps know anything, they sure aren't letting it slip.
     
  32. deadstone2706

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    I'm sure that DELL will launch the new line after the Echo Peak chipset (with onboard WIMAX / WiFi Draft N) is released by Intel...

    Plus they might be waiting for the Centrin 2 Pro as well.

    So it will be mid-August or mid-September I expect...

    I hope it'll be worth the wait!

    Philip
     
  33. Prophex

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    A friend of mine knows someone working at Dell in a pretty high function (no tele-operator or anything like that) and was told that the nex XPS notebook should be released worldwide somewhere in august. :)
     
  34. atbnet

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    Thank you.

    See, that wasn't so hard Dell. Why can't you do that? :p
     
  35. agent_07

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    Prophex, are you confident about the new xps coming in august? cause im giving dell till the 24th of aug or im going to toshiba (f55, sweet laptop so far)
     
  36. Travis2375

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    Well no new XPS laptop just yet, but Dell released a sweet new Studio desktop today.
     
  37. Generator

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    Yes, but its based on the older Santa Rosa chipset, so its no indication that Dell is going to jump on the Centrino 2 wagon anytime soon. If anything, it confirms the mid-August to September predictions, since they wouldn't want these new models that they released today to be overshadowed by hardware that is actually cutting edge.
     
  38. Travis2375

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    Isn't the centrino 2 (montevina) chipset exclusively for laptops?
     
  39. Forte

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    You are correct, Centrino 2/Montevina is for Laptops just like Santa Rosa is.

    Anything Centrino is laptop only.
     
  40. McBrainless

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    But the Studio Hybrid "desktop" computer has a mobile/laptop integrated graphics and also a mobile/laptop series Intel processor, so shouldn't it work on laptop chipsets?
     
  41. atbnet

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    It really isn't a cutting edge product. I would not have expected them to put the latest chipset in it. Plus it has been leaked previously back in April way before it would have expected to receive Centrino 2.
     
  42. McBrainless

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    Yeah, I totally agree. It's not ment to be super top notch and latest tech kind of computer.
    But I kinda like the Studio Hybrid. It's reasonably priced and in the living room, hooked up to the tv and sound system, i can listen to and watch at anything I like.
     
  43. StuM82

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    Is the Studio 13 shown on Engadget today Montevina or is that still Santa Rosa?
     
  44. Generator

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    The Studio Hybrid uses mobile hardware and parts, the same that you would find in any notebook (look at its specs). Thats how they fit it all in such a small form factor, and why it is less powerful than a standard desktop can be.
     
  45. atbnet

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    Still Santa Rosa.
     
  46. atbnet

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    The latitude e looks pretty sweet, what are the chances of a discreet graphics option of 8600-gt or above on the 15s? I like the blue one a lot. Was considering a new vaio but they're overpriced in my opinion but these look great.

    I'll wait a bit to see if there's a new xps but I'm not holding my breath. It worries me that the Studio line closely matches the current xps line up and we've known about the latitudes for ages but heard nothing about the xps. Maybe Dell kept a secret for a change!
     
  48. AlyH

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    I think i've officially given up on the XPS 1530m and am now on the Clevo wagon... M860TU! it's a little more expensive, but seems well worth the money when considering longevity and specs.
     
  49. Husar

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    With Dell currently releasing all their new gear (latitude, studio hybrid), hopefully within the next week or two we will receive some info on the new xps line *crosses fingers*
     
  50. sonoritygenius

    sonoritygenius Goddess of Laptops

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    August 4 is the roll out day for Dell to unveil a new XPS with Centrino 2.

    Because thats when the Centrino 2 package will be "complete" with IGP
     
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