Studio 1737 can upgrade to Q9000?

It does look good, my Q9100 chip should be on its way to me right now.

Have a look at removing the heatsink and the processor on the 1737 service manual

 

Also hope i can use the stock 90W power supply with this one!

 

Yeah the Q9300 would not work with a stock Power supply, it uses 95watts TDP.

The Q9100 is only 10 more watts than what my 1737 comes with out of the box 35 Watts TDP T9400

Can't wait for 4 Core and 4 Threads, 2 Core s and 2 threads is soo 2007.

I am bummed by the speed decline 2.53Ghz Dymanic accleration to 2.66Ghz

Down to 2.26Ghz (but theres 4 of them)

Question does the Q9100 have Dynamic Acceleration??

IDA Intel Dynamic Acceleration is what they called it before Turbo Boost, I know the T9400 has it.

 

After doing some research I've decided to go with the QX9300 Why?

Because we know the 1737 will accept the Q9000 and the Q9100 why? because they are both 45 Watt TDP.

The Q9300 did not work why? because its 95Watts TDP!!

The best is the QX9300 which is only 45Watts TDP I will be purchasing one soon.

Intel® Core?2 Extreme Processor QX9300 (12M Cache, 2.53 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) with SPEC Code(s) SLB5J

YouTube - Overclocking the mobile quad core with world famous gamer, Fugger


If not the Q9100 is still a great option at 2.26Ghz and 12MB cache and I did find out it will IDA Turbo Boost up to 2.53Ghz very nice.

 

Never mind I think the QX9300 costs like $900 bucks way out of my $400 budget.

 

Yeah I looked into that one but doesn't seem to be available from shops in the UK at the moment. Even the Q9100 I got from a laptop breaker.

What do you use your laptop for to need that extra 0.27GHz from each core?

 

Just received my Q9100, need to do some shopping for quality thermal paste and a suitable shim for the northbridge. Reckon I should be good to go next week

 

Q9300 is a desktop CPU, hence the 95w.

Top of the line Mobile Core 2 Quad = QX9300 (2.53ghz /12mb / 1066 /45w)
Top of the line Mobile Core 2 Duo = x9100 (3.06ghz / 12mb / 1066 / 44w) / T9900 ( 3.06ghz / 12mb / 1066 / 35w)

And remember TDP is a guideline for heat dissipation not the actual power consumption of the CPU under heavy or max load.

 

Yea the q9100 should have Dynamic Acceleration. Thats the thing I had to disable on my Q9000 to get the voltage to stop fluctuating so much. I dunno how the 9100 will respond tho.

One thing is for sure, once u go quad, you will never wanna go back to dual.

 

THis is posted way after the fact, but the Q9000 Socket P(478) doesn't have support for turbo. check out the link below. So what your saying is that turbo mode was set to on (where) in your bios. or just in your game settings?

Compare Intel® Products

 

Yes, I have a turbo mode Option in my bios. After turning it off, everything was fine.

 

@ MrJacobson:

What are the specs of your 1737?
Is it a 1737 or a 1735? (The T4200 is kind of a warning flag)
Check CPU-Z and/or HWinfo for the system board info to compare info/revision information with Atomic's

 

I have 1737 with the T4200 and HD4500 it came that way. I have the latest bios A08

 

I bought the system sept 09 which really doesn't mean anything to say its a year old.

 

Sorry about the large print fixed it

 

model OP792H chip set GM45/GM47 south bridge 82801M(ICH9-M)

 

Sorry just saw the Rev # which is Rev 07

 

It looks like yours is slightly different that mine. The T4200 could be a Warning flag like 'lectro said. All you can do is test it with the new one newegg is sending. My chipset and mobo are PM45, and 0f237n. But the southbridge is identical. The only difference i know of between the GM/PM45 is the GM is the one for integrated graphics and the PM is for discrete graphics (even though theyre both technically integrated.) I know you read the posts, but a warning: if you get this to work, your computer will run noticeably hotter. This includes increased heat from CPU, Northbridge, Southbridge, and RAM. They will all get real hot due to the FSB being raised from 800 to 1066mhz.. Good luck.

 

Oh hey BTW, do you have your 2x 500GB HDD's running in raid 0? that would be sick. I would like to see some benchmarks if thats the case.

 

Hey I replied to fast and read your reply to fast. Yeah now i see the diff in our mobos just as you stated. You have the PM and I have the Gm. I thank you for the heads up on the temp. I had that in mind and i am looking for a cure. I checked my board out with prime95 and sat watched the temp climb and level off at 62c I let the test go for 36 mins and no temp issue with the T4200 and no errors. I have found a higher output fan I hope it will work and I have found a replacement heatsink for the NB and the cpu with some simple mods i should be able to make it work for the heat first the cpu has to work. I do not have the 2 drives raided, no RAID chipset I know there is software but it is not even close to being the same.

If you have ever ran RAID 0 or 0+1 or even 5 and i have I a tower running 0+1= 3 10,000rpm 36gb Raptors and 1 10,000rpm 300gb VRaptor all on the nvidia 300 RAID controller(nforce 4) i know its older the brain running it all is an older chip but it does the job very well for my home media server I have the AMD FX60 dual core 2.6 (I paid $2000 for it when it first came out) it has only 4gb ddr pc3200 I had two SLI 7950 GT 512gddr3 but i replaced it with a 240 1gb gddr3. the 240 is ok it has HDMI so only one cable to the onkyo receiver then to the Samsung 40". There is 1 more 36gb 10,000 Raptor for Temp and pagefile and for my ISOs I have 2 7200rpm 1.5tb and 1 7200rpm 2tb. this is in my P190 Antec server tower with 1200w true power power supply. Where i was going by say all this is the old girl still can not be slowed down. Those Raptors in RAID 0 is pure sexual. When the system hickups what a B the RAID is getting back up with out losing things so I run the 0+1 RAID. The mobo is able to handle 12 drives 8 SATA 4 EIDE and yes the EIDE can be in RAID also.

Well Thanks again. If you run into anything that would be helpful with the difference in yours and my chipset please send it my way.


mrjacobson

 

Well it is a official, a mobo that has the Intel Gm45 chipset with Intel HD4500 vga on a revision 07 motherboard will not except a Q9000. I have called it quits on this task. However I have found a mobo with the PM45 chipset and the ATI 3650 vga to replace the one in my 1737. This will be fun and I love the challenge. Until then?


mrjacobson

 

Hi,

I bought a motherboard(for my Studio 1737 GM chipset HD4500) with the 3650 Ati, from ebay, and when we went to boot it, it would start-up, get to about 10 seconds out of POST, then kill. Diagnostics never found anything wrong. I always thought it was the different graphics, drivers loading, but it wouldn't load in safe-mode, nor was I able to go with a fresh install, as it would always cut off(with no power) at the 10 second mark.

I tried this with several different boards, from Studio 1737's and the same thing happened each time. I even brought in a friend who is a (Qualserve) service tech for Dell notebooks, and he tried to install it as well. He figured that there was something different in the PSU on the notebook, so I got one of those as well, and after installing that & having the same issue, we gave up, and I put a T9600 in the old board(up from a T4200), that works fine
(I swapped it from my asus W90vp).
The Q9000, ended up OCing to 2.5Ghz in my Asus W90vp, so I'm glad I got it after all everything worked out.


Regards in better luck switching to a PM chipset board from a GM chipset board in the Studio 1737,

MrDejaVu2U

 

Okay, I tried the upgrade today but I believe the processor died a certain death. Went almost into the boot menu, the bios reported it as an extreme version... then it died.

Not lack of cooling or carelessness, and the laptop works fine with the old T8400.

I might have been given the worst possible Q9100, it was a QAVK model. Which model should I aim for? I really need this mod done or I'll need to fork out for a new computer as I do really need the horsepower.

 

I have a Dell Studio that I purchased on 3/9/2009. It is a great computer.

I for various reasons decided to upgrade the processor from the T4200 to the P9700. I was amazed how easy the upgrade was.

I removed the bottom panel
Took off the heat sink and cleaned it by wiping off the old paste and blowing out the fins
Then I removed the old CPU by twisting the black screw.
I installed the new CPU.
Applied High Quality Thermal Grease and spread it with a credit card.
I put the heat sink back on.
Then I put the bottom panel back on
When I first started it up, I used Speed Fan 4.41 to check the CPU temps. They were 42 C. Which is what I would expect when idling.

I considered the job well done.

However a few hours later My wife said the computer was running slow and I checked the CPU temps and they were at 62C cruzing the internet and using outlook.

I then down loaded Intel's diagnostic utility and it said that the temp after a cpu test was 10C below maximum and passed the test.

I also took the time and upgraded the BIOS from A04 to A08.

As I write this the CPU temp is at 50C and the CPU is hovering at 2%.

I wish I knew what the T4200 temp was before I removed it.

Any suggestions or comments? I would love to get more data and get some idea of other people's CPU, Current Load, and TEMP.

Did I miss anything? Should I be worried?



System Summary

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System Type: Studio Laptop 1737
Ship Date: 3/9/2009
Dell IBU: Americas


Quantity Parts # Part Description

1 G210M Processor, T4200, 2.0, 1MB Core Penryn, 2C, R0
1 U680F ADAPTER..., ALTERNATING CURRENT..., 90W, HIPRO, 3P, WORLD WIDE..., M09
0 01323 INFORMATION..., NO ITEM
1 R655P TECHNICAL SHEET..., DRIVERS (SOFTWARE)..., H/P
1 FX429 CORD..., Power, 125V, 2.5A, 1M, C5 E, United States
1 G869H KIT..., DOCUMENTATION..., BINDER..., ENGLAND/ENGLISH..., 1737, DELL AMERICAS ORGANIZATION..., BRAZIL CUSTOMER CENTER...
1 G080D Connector, Serial Ata, 13P, R, G Interposer, Optical Device Drive
1 M766F Assembly, Bracket, Support Liquid Crystal Display, PACINO
1 NU385 Assembly, Cover, Hinge, Plastic PACINO
1 PP102 Dual In-Line Memory Module, 1G 800, 128X64, 8, 200, 1GBIT
1 U589F Assembly, Cable, Interface, 22P HDD1, PACINO
1 K246D Assembly, Dvd+/-rw And Bd-rom Pacino/hepburn, Sony Nec Optiarc Inc.
1 K257H KIT..., Software, VHP32SP1A, DigitalVideo Disk Drive, Multiple, 5
1 P786H ASSEMBLY..., BASE (ASSEMBLY OR GROUP)..., NOTEBOOK..., DISCRETE..., 1737
1 TX760 Dual In-Line Memory Module 2GB, 800, 256X64, 8K, 200
1 F660J Kit, Software, Creative, Camera Consumer
1 KM976 BATTERY..., PRIMARY..., 56WHR, 6C, LITHIUM..., DYNAPACK INTERNATIONAL TECHNOLOGY CORP...
1 NU380 Heatsink, Central Processor Unit, Discrete, Notebook, 1735
8 2864D Screw, M3X3, K SCREW HEAD..., MICROSOFT..., BLACK OXIDE...
1 K402K Kit, Software, Dell Media Direct4.0, True Theatre High Definition
1 N633N Hard Drive, 250GB, S2, 5.4K, 2.5 SGT-WYATT
1 TX613 Assembly, Camera, 2M, D-MCPHN M09
1 YP938 Cover, Keyboard, Plastic, PACINO
1 J411J Assembly, Cover, Notebook, Paint Black, Black, 1737
1 NU486 Bezel, W/ CMRA, PACINO
1 WU316 Liquid Crystal Display, 17WUXGARed/Green/Blue, Light Emitting Diode, True Life, Lg Philips Lcd
1 X048C Assembly, Carrier, Hard Drive Chassis 2001, PACINO
1 F484C Keyboard, 101, United States English, ILNB
1 KW770 Card (circuit), Wireless, Half Mini-card, DW1397, 4312BG
1 U731F Assembly, Palmrest, Plastic Silver, With Out Front Projection Display
1 NU484 Assembly, Cable, Red/green/blue Liquid Crystal Display, W/CMRA