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    Upcoming; Inspiron 1520 and 1720

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Inspired911, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Kind of funny that they updated the canadian website first, yet canadians don't get the options yet, they have to wait. Not funny for canadians, just ironic I guess.
     
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    Ya I agree. I think that the release was just to early to get all the options, maybe if they postponed the realease to include all the options they would get better feedback/sales. Who knows the heinsights 20/20.
     
  3. Crimsonman

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    This thread kinda... died
     
  4. scooberdoober

    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    Move along kids, nothing more to see here, shows over, go home now... :(
     
  5. Inspired911

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    It still says GS. Why would the rep tell me it's a GS when it's actually a better card? I think us Europeans are out of luck.
     
  6. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey! You should be happy GS=Great SH!T, when the other only means GT=Good Turd.. lol, I'm sorry, it's early and I'm still tired.
     
  7. YoJr

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    The interior is just like the Lattitudes. They do make them look a tad dated but I agree about them not fading and fiving that faded look.

    Well, I am risking a lot giving you guys this information... I don't know (or believe) if I am crossing any confidentiallity lines. Those release dates are a copy and paste from our training sites. This is where techs go to see how to take about systems, check stats and stuff like that. The Inspiron notebooks were released on the correct date from our sheets but the desktops weren't. So take the info with a slight grain of salt but that is all I have. I wish I could get you pics though. I don't like the plain black but I know some of you guys are going to love them. Stay tuned though.... just 2 weeks.
     
  8. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    YoJr, I have to give you credit for giving us the scoop and risking your own neck in doing it.
     
  9. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    my pleasure. I just thought it was stupid that dell never released the info before hand. I came accross this thread when searching for more info on them. I found out I had more info since I worked for them. Of course you guys actually helped me relize I actually new more then I thought. But thank you.
     
  10. Mat Dope

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    yeah thanks for all the info yojr, it was a big help. just wondering i hear the new insprions have like a metal type of case on the interior, and is that how the vostros are going to be or will they be like a black plastic?
     
  11. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    My understanding is that internally they are excatly the same. In fact my teardowns (our walk throughs on how to remove parts that techs use) have identical instructions and the pictures of the insides look identical. I didn't notice the metal case in the first place, but I think that is awesome. Might explain why they are a little heavier then the older ones.
     
  12. skynetwork

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    if you have connections to dell can you plz get any info about teh weird DDR2 and DDR3 issue on their gfx cards?

    on some pages they state it with DDR3, on others not, different employees give you different informations and and and...

    i personally ordered a 1520 with dedicated DDR3 but in the final confirmation via mail it says DDR2 and such stuff....
    we are already discussing this issue over in this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=135186 but noone seems to have any reliable answer. some say DDR3 and others DDR2 but all that i can count on are the "?" above my head :D
     
  13. mmax

    mmax Notebook Guru

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  14. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    So is the entire casing magnesium, or is it just parts? That was a huge part in my decision, but it bothers me someone said that the inside is metal. Does that mean the outside is not? This is going to ride around in my backpack so I need a sturdy notebook.
     
  15. JETninja

    JETninja Notebook Guru

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    Chassis is internal, outside is like all notebooks lots of replaceable plastic panels. If your that worried about it, get a padded sleeve. I plan on getting my boy a Backpack type case....prob with a Sleeve as well.
     
  16. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a backpack built for a notebook already, bought in anticipation of recieving my laptop a month ago. If you think you are gonna want to buy one for him, let me know, I bought this pack about 2 months ago, just before the start of spring/summer classes, and I think I want a different one. Would sell it cheap, so pm me if interested.

    Ok, you all have helped me quite a bit, and put up with my BS. Well here is the love of my labor:

    Inspiron 1520, Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, 2.0GHz, 800Mhz, 4M Cache
    Sunshine Yellow Color with Microsatin Finish
    1GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm
    15.4 inch Wide Screen WXGA LCDTrueLife for Inspiron 1520
    256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
    80G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, English
    DELL RESOURCE DVD,BACK-UP INSP 1520
    Internet Search and Portal
    Icon Consolidation Application
    Vista, PC-Restore, Dim/Insp
    Dell Support, Vista, Dim/Insp
    Dell Owners Manual installed on your system,click on icon after system set-up to access
    Media Direct 3.3
    Integrated 10/100 Network Cardand Modem, for Inspiron
    Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0, for Inspiron
    8X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
    Roxio Creator Basic
    Integrated High Definition Audio 2.0
    Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini Card
    Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
    Creative Earbud EP630
    Security 30-day trial
    85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery, for Inspiron 1520
    No ISP Requested
    No Productivity Software requested
    1 Year Limited Warranty
    No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
    Dell Hardware Warranty Plus Return To Depot, Initial Year
    Type 12- Mail-InService, 24x7 TechnicalSupport, Initial Year
    Warranty Support,Initial Year
    Inspiron, No Dell On Call
    Thank you for choosing Dell
    Dell Wirless 355 Bluetooth Mod
    No Preinstalled Software
    DataSafe Online Dim/Ins/XPS
    DataSafe Online Dim/Ins/XPS 1YR-FREE
    Insp Datasafe 3GB,1YR(Incl in price),DHS
    Sunshine Yellow color w/ 2.0M pixel Camera
    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
    You have chosen a Windows Vista Premium System

    Ordered it tonight, due to ship out on the 18th, hopefully they will actually be on time this time, and not 2 months late like my previous one would have been.
     
  17. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    oh yeah, I do plan on upgrading the ram to 2 gig asap, and I may upgrade the HDD to a 7200 before long, haven't decided yet if it will be worth it with Vista's prefetching.
     
  18. swarmer

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    If the insides are identical, then why are the Inspirons so much thicker than the Latitudes?
     
  19. Jaymz

    Jaymz Notebook Evangelist

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    I just hope you didn't forget to apply the $350 coupon which is available starting today ! :D
     
  20. NiNjURAi

    NiNjURAi Notebook Consultant

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    where do you get this mysterious coupon?
     
  21. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Heck no I didn't forget, that was the only reason I could afford it. My previous laptop was 1016.64, the new one is 1,125.71. giving a difference of $109. I would never have bought it otherwise, it just wasn't worth $500 difference.
     
  22. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    just do a search for dell coupons, or if you just want the code: TSD1$NG00WFD4N
    That right there will get you $350 off. BUT it will not work in conjunction with school/employee discounts at all, as well as the systems that give you a discount for upping the service plans give you like $292 off, that just jumps to $350, not the 292+350 off. Trust me I tried :D
     
  23. Jaymz

    Jaymz Notebook Evangelist

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    don't you guys read at least the headline news ? :D
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3798

    so how much did you get for the educational discount ?
     
  24. NiNjURAi

    NiNjURAi Notebook Consultant

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    haha alrightt. well im gonn be using a student discount and i have the 200 dollar off coupon
     
  25. NiNjURAi

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    haha sorry ive been at work all dayyy so much to catch up on
     
  26. mD-

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    i'm to think that these coupons are better than the EPP crap I've been seeing around. The prices that people are paying seems to be still too much, using the EPP discount.
     
  27. NiNjURAi

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    well i configured a pretty loaded 1520 with student discount and 200 off with the middle protection plan i think its dell care plus for 1600.
     
  28. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    you may want to price out the system both ways. I found it cheaper to not use my education discount by quite a bit.

    I didn't use the educational discount Jaymz, I just bought it using the regular Dell site. Only way I can see the educational discount being cheaper is if you were buying the premium service plans. You get so much off, then an additional percentage off, and it can come out to quite a hefty amount off. But I also noticed that the prices were higher on the student site, and then discounted so came pretty close to regular site.
     
  29. NiNjURAi

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    well this is what i have for 1613 using 200 off on the dell university site. not the pre configured system cause you cant seem to use the 200 off on there.

    REVIEW MY SUMMARY
    Congratulations! Your system is ready to be built.
    Components
    SYSTEM COLOR Jet Black edit
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/4MB cache) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows ® Vista Home Premium Edition edit
    DISPLAY High Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 inch display (1680x1050) edit
    VIDEO CARD 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 8600M GT edit
    MEMORY 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz edit
    HARD DRIVE 160G 7200RPM SATA HDD edit
    OPTICAL DRIVE CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
    WIRELESS NETWORKING Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card edit
    BLUETOOTH OPTIONS Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR) edit
    INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam edit
    BATTERY OPTIONS 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) edit
    SOUND OPTIONS Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy HD Software Edition edit
    Service
    WARRANTY AND SERVICE DellCare Plus edit
    DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
    Accessories
    ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE I chose Security with Value, Plus,or Premium Warranty Bundle edit
    PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE No Productivity software pre-installed edit
    PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed edit
    ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
    Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
    Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.08
    Doms Camera Module Jet Black color w/ 2.0M pixel Camera
    Labels Windows Vista™ Premium
    Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor
     
  30. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    not bad at all, that system priced out to $1966.02 on the regular site. But see, that's what I am talking about, the only way that it is better to go student, is if you upgrade the service plans, otherwise right now you are better to use the other...
     
  31. NiNjURAi

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    yeah i upgraded to plus but that 1966 is before any discounts right? so i could realistically get the 1966 and subtract the 350 and its about the same price.. im gonna check it out.
     
  32. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Now see, I just repriced my system on the student site, and the only difference is they give me in home service automatically, which I don't really care about. And the system would have cost me $125 more if I had went through the student discount instead.
     
  33. Liquidx

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    lol, that would be nice, but that wasn't before the discounts. It looks like your best way to go is the student/EPP site.
     
  34. NiNjURAi

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    yeah definitely gonna go through that. i mean its basically a g1s without all the flashiness and thats what im lookin for a little thicker than i would have liked but for 1600 cant really complain and you're gettign a pretty powerful machinee
     
  35. Liquidx

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    hehe, I will take mine slightly dimmed down from yours for a much nicer 1125 thank you, but it would have been nice to be able to afford a better service plan.... But the memory and Hard drive, for the price dell wants, is ridiculous if you ask me. You can get 2 gigs of mem at newegg for $80, and it is so easy to change, I can't justify the extra $70. But I work on computers a lot, so that's me.... to each his own. But a nice deal for what you spec'd it with.
     
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    I just bought a 1520, lets hope i made the right decision.
     
  37. NiNjURAi

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    yeah liquid me too. all the computers in my house are built by me. so yeah i migh t stick with one gig and just buy 4gigs instead well see. the thing about the hd is that newegg only carries 100gb at the biggest at 7200RPM i just need a laptop that can replace my desktop so i need all the goodies ; )
     
  38. Liquidx

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    alright, I have looked all over the web, but just can't find the answer, is the 1520's sata connection running at 1.5G or 3.0G? Because if I am going to rip my HDD out and replace it eventually, I want to know what my options look like.
     
  39. Liquidx

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    not true anymore ninju, they just released a 200 gig hitachi travelstar for $250, and 4 gigs on there is about $200. But beware that vista 32 can only support 3 gigs not 4. You can install 4, it will see it, it just doesn't know how to use it. Where as vista 64 does.
     
  40. NiNjURAi

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    well i have a copy of vista 64 but i kinda want to put xp pro on it when i get it. i think im just gonna get the 160gb form dell though and just get an external maybe well see haha. thanks for the heads up though on neweggs stock.
     
  41. NiNjURAi

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    oh and did you find out what speed they run at? it would be nice if it was 3.0g
     
  42. Liquidx

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    no one has said yet, and I can't find anything about it anywhere. Hoping YoJr is still watching this thread and answers tomorrow
     
  43. NiNjURAi

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    me toooo. and i want to know how to get a wireless n card..its not selectable when you do student discount. and do you know what speed the ram is at? im gonna buy 4gigs. its like 200
     
  44. Liquidx

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    get the 667MHz ram, it's a waste of money to get any higher. I read in a post somewhere that some guy got 800 thinking it would run 1:1 and the system automatically down clocked it to 667. I understand why he would have thought such, I can't understand why the santa rosa chipset doesn't run DDR2800, but alas, I am not a computer engineer.... That is odd that the N card doesn't show up for you, but it does for me. Only thing I can say at this point is either A: Ebay or B:search google for dell specialty parts stores.
     
  45. NiNjURAi

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    haha yeah ohh and im going to college this year as a computer engineer so ill let you know when i find out about that ; )
     
  46. YoJr

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    XP has gone out the door. Only vista will be available on the new systems. Dell is thinking about still providing it on the Vostros but I wouldn't hold my breathe for that. The 1501 is the only one left that has Vista (well, and maybe some of the xps')

    The Inspirons and Vostro's are identical. Sorry, should have clearified that one. The latitudes are different.

    Vista actually does have support for larger ammounts of RAM. It has been a couple months since I went through my Vista certification but Vista 32 will support more then 8 gigs of ram. vista 64 will support way more then that (in the server ammounts range :)). XP on the other hand is the one that can't support more then 3.

    The HDD's run at 1.5 I think. There aren't really too many 2.5" drives that support 3 g/s. They are the SATA 150 interface. Newegg has tons of them.

    I am still watching.... I check while I am at work though... no offense guys but I like spending my nights with my wife instead of checking the board.
     
  47. Liquidx

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    ok, so the drives they use are 1.5, but does the board support 3? Didn't mean anything by saying I hope you were still watching other then that. Perfectly understandable you want to spend your nights with your wife.

    So your saying if I want to stuff 4 gigs of ram in my system now, that vista will see it and use all of it? Just to clarify.
     
  48. JETninja

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    Thats one of the biggest pluses with Vista over XP...memory usage and the amount it can use take advantage of. You could probably get the exact number at the MS site...but 4Gb should be cake.

    Do you have a link to this Newegg ram your talking about? I was specing at 2Gb, but if I can save enough I'll go the Newegg route. Thats what I did with my I9300.

    Also, not looked myself yet...anyone found Service Manuals for these yet?
     
  49. YoJr

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    No, I knew you didn't mean anything by it. Just letting ppl know that is why my posts are so clustered together.... and then nothing until the next day. Vista has great memory support. Remember that vista is based on linux architecture. It has better Memory management then windows has ever seen. The OS they are looking at next will be even better :) (or at least one could hope). But I was impressed this Vista. I didn't like it until I went through my certification because on the surface it still looks like M$ but underneath it has stuff that linux has had for years. So I hope that M$ has wised up and learned that the way they have been doing this was the wrong path. Vista as some great hidden things if you have the ability, play around with it. Try deleting some files from your windows\system32 folder, then boot to your cd..... Very intelligent on fixing it's self. It is a dream to support.
     
  50. swarmer

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    I'm sorry, I misread your post... I don't know why I thought you were talking about the Latitudes.

    No, you can't use 8 gb of RAM on Vista 32. It's a limitation of 32-bit OSes. There is plenty of info about this topic on the web, but basically 32 bits = 2^32 = 4 gb.
    Even Microsoft says so:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605
    "However, to avoid potential driver compatibility issues, the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to 3.12 GB."​

    Vista Home Basic (64-bit) has an 8 gb RAM limit (I don't know why they bother, but whatever)... maybe that's what you were thinking of?

    By the way YoJr, thanks for all the info, and... I'm sorry if you this came up before, but... have you heard anything about a 15" XPS notebook?
     
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