*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

No. I have Optimus filth (unfortunately) with standard NVIDIA drivers. There is no legitimate reason for DCH driver rubbish to exist. DCH distribution serves no purpose other than supporting the evil agenda of the Redmond Retards. They add no value and provide no special performance or functionality. The only purpose they serve is stroking the ego of Digi-Nazis that presume to exercise control over people and products they think they own, even though they cannot even manage their own affairs competently.

For the Intel drivers there is no other option. They do not have standard drivers. Or, at least none that I have found yet. If I can find non DCH Intel graphics drivers, I will immediately stop using their DCH garbage.

 

They may actually be working better now because 700M series are no longer supported by latest drivers, but desktop 700 series is. Idk if @j95 does only an inf mod or more but they installed perfectly and show up as 780M SLI still.

Yes! This is so stupid! I was shocked to see 700M no longer supported but desktop 700 series still supported. They're using the same chipset! Maybe this is why the @j95 drivers work still on the "unsupported" 700M series.

 

Wow, then Prema basically opened up the whole BIOS then, literally expanding it 10000% or so, lol! Do you know if it's ever gonna be sold with the Prema BIOS, or is that gonna be a potentially downloadable option from somewhere?

 

I guess 4.2Ghz on a 3920XM isn't enough to beat a 6700HQ. Although that will be an easy victory at 4.4Ghz.

 

There is always hope. I doubt that it will ever be available for download. I think those days are over because of all the dishonest shenanigans.

 

It was refreshing seeing Windows 7 again. Looks like CB20 isn't affected as much as I thought it would be by Windows 10.

 

Yeah, the dishonest shenanigans was a Chinese site masquerading his work as theirs, or is that svl7 I was thinking of? Pity that this work can be done and only one or two people will end up using it.

 

1% performance win for Win7! Ha, well that is not exactly margin of error, but it's not far off.

 

Replaced the stock 16GB kit of 2666 single rank that I had overclocked to 3000/CL19 with 32GB of dual rank G.SKILL 3000/CL16.

Spoiler: Old RAM (stock overclocked)

New RAM

 

Almost 4 hours benchmark

https://hwbot.org/submission/4255834_papusan_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_celeron_m_743_0.127_fps


https://hwbot.org/submission/425584...080p_celeron_m_743_0.514_fps?recalculate=true

 

What are you using to get that aero glass style effect on windows 10?

 

I'm using... wait for it... AeroGlass. Been using it since Windows 8, in fact. I absolutely despise using Windows 8 and 10 without it.

FYI... When you sign into your donation page to download a key if you get the " This site can’t be reached" crap from your web browser thanks to the https nonsense. Simply manually remove the "s" from the URL and the page will appear.

Code:

Not this...
https://www.glass8.eu:80/profile/?_fid=at3w

...but, this...
http://www.glass8.eu:80/profile/?_fid=at3w

...and, you'll be good to go.

Looks great, especially with StartIsBack...

 

Well @Rage Set it will be very difficult beating your Radeon VII score with mine limited on a PCIe 3.0 x4 bus but I am getting closer and closer lol. Next goal is 30k GPU. Do you know if I can just download a powerplay reg file? I wanna try the +50% more power mod but idk if I just download it and run it.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20640880

Radeon VII is fun to OC. Titan X was also fun. Love playing with these high end cards.

That's very interesting, I have never been able to get it to work. I tried downloading it but no idea how to configure it. Unless you're supposed to buy a key first?

 

Just install it and it works. It has worked flawlessly for me since the first version of Windows 8.

To get rid of the watermark you have to create an account and make a very small donation (like $2 or $3) to pay for a key, then copy and paste the machine code (from the pop-up window that appears on your desktop after two to three minutes) into your secure log-in page using the small link at the lower left corner of the web page in the blue bar labeled Sign in to your donator account. When you paste the code and select the option to create a key, download the key into the C:\Aeroglass folder. Logoff and logon and the watermark is gone.

When you run setup, select the Windows 8 version, not Acrylic, or you will end up with the ugly Windows 10 half-assed excuse for Aeroglass that they call Acrylic. (Looks like crap.)

To adjust the opacity and reflection, colors, etc. use the GUI application at the bottom of the downloads page Testing version of GUI application to modify Aero Glass parameters. I put that in the C:\Aeroglass folder.

Make the title bar text white with the box to select a "Caption color" on this tab. Also adjust reflection and blur here. I turn all of that off to get a perfectly clear Aeroglass (no reflections, glow, blur or theme atlas crap).






Get rid of the fat and ugly window frame borders using Winaero Tweaker. Set the padding to zero.

 

Ah, I was gonna say "Now you just need to overclock your new RAM!", but I realised that you've already taken it down from CL18 to CL16?

 

No, XMP profile #1 is CL16, XMP profile #2 is CL18. I just got it yesterday, so I have not had time to tinker with it yet.

 

Is this error normal?

 

Oh yeah, I can see that now, well it should be able to go down in latency and/or up in frequency then!

On a different topic, I just ran CPUz benchmark for the first time. For single thread result my overclocked 6700K scored higher than a 9900K even, how is that possible when 9900K turbos to 5Ghz!? I'm guessing these values shown in the chart are stock values or a running average of everyone's results ever submitted?


And here's my multithread result:

 

The 9900K results is crippled. Most likely the average of all scores. If the posters run other things in the background the single core boost won’t apply.

 

If you installed the latest version, reboot and that should go away. You will see a DOS/cmd box open and Windows will download symbols, that are missing for DWM and then you should not see that again. You will have to manually close that cmd window. If you look in the C:\Aeroglass folder you installed to you should also find a new folder for symbols that has the files that were downloaded. Sometimes a Windows Update will trigger that process again, but it will go away again after downloading new symbols for DMW.

CPU-Z is bugged. It will randomly return different results. Remember a while back I saw slower benchmarks with one of my LAN ports enabled in the BIOS versus the other LAN port? That is one manifestation of the CPU-Z benchmark bugs. If you run a benchmark, then without closing CPU-Z switch benchmark versions from the default to the beta or AVX versions in the drop-down menu, run it, then go back to the default 17.01.64 benchmark and run it a second time the results will change dramatically. If you close CPU-Z and reopen it and run a different benchmark first, the results will change again. Most of the uploaded results for comparison are erroneous.

TL;DR... CPU-Z benchmark is totally worthless/unreliable for comparing to other results compiled in their database because those results are riddled with errors that are not accurate measurements of performance.

Edit: It seems the more cores and threads, the buggier CPU-Z gets. Look at this. Ran the one on the left first. Then I immediately ran the benchmark in the CPU-Z on the right using 19.01.64 (beta) first, then I switched it back to 17.01.64 and ran that... MASSIVE difference. Yet, the single thread is almost identical.



With my 9750H (hexacore) the runs are consistent and within a margin of error.


@Papusan

 

Ah, I see, the comparison results are indeed the averages of all user submitted results. Yes, some of the posters will have other stuff running in the background when they run the test, but I am pleased and kinda impressed with my single thread result considering it topped their chart averages - and that's not even at my max overclock, that was at 4.65Ghz and I can get it to 4.8Ghz but that's not completely stable (non AVX prime stable though) but good enough for benchmark runs. Maybe it's the fact that I've tweaked my RAM for low latency, as well as having the CPU cache overclocked too (which a lot of users leave at stock).

Yeah, I can see the bugged nature you're referring to. I did multiple runs and they all came out the same pretty much though, both for single & multi core.

 

Yes, it's pretty consistent with the 9750H as well. I think the fact that the benchmark is hit or miss with higher core counts due to bugs makes it harder to compare with the average results against HEDT processors with much higher core counts. I'm not sure most people submitting results know what kind of hoops they have to jump through to get an accurate score. If they are just doing a click and run submission, those results are going to be inaccurate and skew the averages. It would also be interesting to know how much the AMD Ryzen results are being understated in light of the same bugs.

 

Yeah, although I'm mostly comparing the single thread results, because I know my multi thread result is nothing to write home about (seeing as it's only a 4 core / 8 thread CPU). Those bugs you showed were more related to the multi thread score, so I'm thinking the single thread scores are more accurate amoungst the general populace. So I'm still kinda impressed my CPU topped the the chart for 8 thread CPUs when that includes 9900K. Yeah, I know some people have stuff running in the background, like web browsers & stuff, but I'm still pretty impressed my CPU topped that chart of averages - and I'm just using a vanilla Windows 10 Home, not tweaked at all, just made sure I didn't have any programs open (well my antivirus program, Asus Xonar sound software, and MSI Gaming LAN manager was still running in the background - as always).

EDIT: oh yeah, and that was with Spectre & Meltdown microcode & patches applied too.

 

It doesn't seem to go away. It comes back every reboot. I did install the latest version. Also it seems anything I change in the GUI app (It's in C:/Aeroglass btw) doesn't affect the appearance even run as admin mode.

Really liking the look even like this compared to stock 10

 

Maybe getting a key to make the watermark go away will fix that along with removing the watermark. I do not see that error except when I install a new Windows Update, and even then it is only sometimes, and just once. I also run with DSE permanently disabled, Secure Boot disabled and UAC disabled. So, that could have some bearing on it. Maybe there is something mentioned in the support forum. https://msfn.org/board/forum/180-aero-glass-for-windows-8/ or you could ask and post a screen shot if you do not find anything about it.

And, yes sir, that looks waaaaayyy better than stock.

Edit: have you seen the Command Prompt open and a message about downloading symbols, or do you see a new folder named "symbols" with files in it? If not, that may also be why you are seeing that error (if symbols have not downloaded yet).

 

Yes, you are getting really great results. No doubt about it.

 

Bro, check your email.

 

If anyone's bored and need to kill time I uploaded a new video...made my home server by repurposing a gaming desktop LOL

i7 5820k & GTX 980 for a home server

No I don't see any command prompt window. Maybe I'll try reinstalling it first and see if that helps.

 

Where are my manors...I make a home server and don't benchmark it? For now these are stock. They look around right? Don't remember the 5820k performing this low but it's been "5" generations lol

I did these through remote desktop and it's running server 2019 but I don't think that should affect anything.

It has 16GB (2x8GB) RAM running in dual channel. Weirdly the kit number is supposed to be 32GB (4x8GB) [Thanks CyberpowerPC for taking out 2 sticks on a HEDT system...]

I might buy the other 16GB so it runs in quad channel. Kinda wasteful having an HEDT running in dual channel: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820233751

Price isn't toooo bad

 

I had to replace my i7-5820K earlier this year, with a Ryzen 2700X. That processor's considerably less powerful than the i9-9900K, but it's a lot faster -- particularly for multiple streams -- processing video than the 5820K. The 5820K mildly overclocked was barely 4x real time for processing 1080p with particular parameters; the 2700X is better than 5x real time. More to the point, perhaps, is that for 4 concurrent streams the 5820K did no better than for 1 stream (less than 110% real time), while the 2700X is about 1.65x real time.

I was a bit annoyed; I was hoping to replace the 5820K this fall with a Ryzen 3000, but it died a bit too soon.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...gk5cq7z-gk5cp0z.815943/page-446#post-10957522

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20662317

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8849148

@B0B @Papusan

 

@Papusan probably likes my custom ThrottleStop logo.

 

ThrottleStop is very needed, but the sad part... Turdbooks can never ever be fully fixed Even @unclewebb's amazing tool won't be able to transform it to something awesome

 

This is true. Fundamentally flawed and totally incapable of awesomeness.

 

We can talk about Fundamentally flawed, bro... This is one of the best results you can get from Alienware's flagship ( Area-51m) Desktop hardware won't shine if the engineers went cheapo on the MB design.


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In front with one wimpy points
https://hwbot.org/submission/4257407_papusan_pcmark_7_celeron_m_743_764_marks?recalculate=true

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/20664046/fs/18970005

Getting within striking distance of @Prema's score with 8700K.

 

Cold air...

 

WOOT WOOT! #1!

 

+1 hours run 1 core running blasting 1.297GHz

https://hwbot.org/submission/4257726_papusan_cinebench___r20_celeron_m_743_64_marks?recalculate=true


Edit. If I have the time I will run same benchmarks with Win 7 to see how much Win 10 sucks on weaker hardware. Run CBR-15 Extreme right now, then its only CBR-11.5 I need to fix.

 

linx 0.7.2 5ghz

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/alphacool-eisbaer-ex-black-lcs-review,1.html

The best AIO cooler that guru3d have ever tested! Lowest temps and lowest noise. To me that's the best cooling you can get without a custom loop then. I'm assuming that guru3d included all their prior results in the charts, and if they have then I think that statement holds true. It's a 280mm radiator, so x2 140mm fans I guess.

 

My new build

 

You forgot the case and the GPU though, and they don't run without power! ;-) But, jokes aside, tell us about it, I can see it's gonna be tiny!

 

So hey, any other ideas? I tried 2 latest drivers both standard and DHC and neither work. I installed everything as it should be but 3D clocks just never activate. Should I just give up?

Thanks and sorry for late reply. Life happened..

 

Is coming together slowly



For the case I need to wait, for now only integrated