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    *Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Mr. Fox, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. tgipier

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    If you guys are curious about power draw with TITAN V, Nvidia locked it down to 300w for a reason. Pass that point, you get very little performance gain and rapidly becomes incredibly inefficient as shown in the video.
     
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  2. Mr. Fox

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    Here, here! :vbthumbsup: :vbwink:

    I don't care about any of the technical crap, efficiency, blah, blah... just show me massive speeds and brute force. It can be 100nm die and take 500W to run it for all I care, LOL. The winner is the winner. The loser is the loser. Nothing else matters.
     
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    Well get ta breakin' out your Dominator and lets have some scores?
    :D
     
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  4. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Nice talking to you. Glad you're enjoying your new monster PC. I'm still jealous. Just now starting to care about my own desktop again, LOL.
     
  5. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Thread cleaned up a bit, please keep it on topic!
     
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    I have done no optimizing as of yet with this system. This all just Overclocking using Ryzen master. Ok just ran passmark. Thats a Samsung 960 evo f NVME for the disk mark.
    The RX 580 doesnt have the horsepower. Compares to a gtx 970

    passmark.jpg
     
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    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    What drive setup gives the 16147 score?
     
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    Its just a Samsung 960 evo NVME, I dont know...lol

    Just ran another test..

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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    That looks a lot like Fox's Desktop??
     
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    Because of that high speed drive your overall score is up with mine;

    PassmarkReset-a.jpg
     
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    What is so special about my drive I wonder?
     
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    raid 0
     
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    Single drive, no raid
     
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    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    I must say EVGA worked wonders with the 1080 TI K|NGP|N cards. They blow my Asus Strix OC 1080 TI out of the water. I can only imagine how these cards will OC under water.
     
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    My bad. I was going by this.
    MSI Dominator GT70-2PC | i7-4810MQ | 32gb GSkill RipJaws 1600Mhz | 3x250gb Samsung 850 Evo's Raid 0 | GTX 970m 6gb
     
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    Oh ya, sorry for the confusion. I should put the desktop build in my signature
     
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    All good!
    This was raid 0 2 1tb m.2 evos.
    [​IMG]
     
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    It is the Samsung ram caching likely doing the faster reads
     
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    This is my laptop

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    This is the single 960 evo

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    Samsung Magician sucks and I do not use it.
    This is my Sandisk X400 ASUS RAMCache II speed test. :vbwink:

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    I have the same thing on my system, of course its an MSI version.
     
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    Thanks! That saved me from having to go dig up mine. LOL
     
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    Here is my MSI RamDisk. I could only do 100mb as my disk is only 256mb

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    Looks awesome, bro. Congrats on that new beast!!!
     
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    My next build (if there is one) will include a couple of TI K|NGP|N cards on water. Keeping them cold is the most important thing, though. The less expensive GPUs can beat the more expensive models if they are not kept at 50°C or less due to the Green Goblin's cancer vBIOS. I think those K|NGP|N cards also have special firmware that helps kill some of the NVIDIOT nonsense behavior as well. Maybe @Johnksss can comment on that part. (The special firmware that resists the throttling, voltage and power limit bullcrap would be a great reason to get them as well if what I heard is accurate... they can pull 900 to 1200W each when heavily overclocked instead of the crippled 300W NVIDIA reference noob design garbage.)
     
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    [​IMG]

    That's the reason why I got them. They can easily take whatever you can throw at them and WELL worth the extra $150 over other AIB TI cards.

    Right now, they are not playing nice on SLI. I'm currently looking for a new SLI bridge for triple SLI. This is going to be crazy.
     
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    That GPU sag though...
     
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    Probably just needs a screw added to the back of the motherboard tray to take up the slack in the slot.

    JayzTwoCents has a video showing how to fix that. Brother @Rage Set can fix that in about 30 seconds.

     
  32. Vasudev

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    Try newer CDM version to get much better R/W speeds.
    Anyway those speeds made my disk look like garbage.

    RAM Cache SW, is it beneficial only on benchmarks or in real world tests?
    Phoenix said Samsung RAPID can cause data corruption.
    Well, I don't know what to say. 15GB/s R/W will be possible in near future w/o RAM Caching.
     
  33. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Read!!
     
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    I have read it somewhere, snappy phoenix did post the exact thing and asked me to test it. The truth is my Samsung SSD is used on Linux so RAPID is completely non-working thing for me.
     
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    I like the intake fans on the bottom panel of the case, seems like a perfect solution to ensuring the GPUs get cold air, although with sli this is more of a problem, but with a single card in there and those 2 intake fans at the bottom the GPU would be in heaven (as in it would like the conditions, not meaning dead!)!
     
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    Yeah, that's not gonna happen. :)
     
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    Yes, it can cause severe corruption, much like turning off Windows write cache buffer flushing can. If you are overclocking CPU and RAM, you're just begging for an utterly destroyed OS that is damaged beyond recovery. Definitely should have a fresh Macrium Reflect image and bootable USB Macrium recovery drive handy just in case tragedy strikes. If you do, then play away and the corruption will be nothing more than a minor inconvenience that ultimately won't matter. The whole thing is pretty much just for novelty and geeky entertainment value. It's more or less worthless for day-to-day computing.
     
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    MR is the best tool I have used. We can screw the OS in a matter of minutes/hours and restoration barely takes 5-7 mins.
     
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    MR is you next best friend in the war against corruption with Microsoft Oses.
    War against Ransomware. Meaning it can't encrypt your backups. (7.1 and higher versions)
    Able to add drivers for more systems.
     
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    Thinking of selling off my Asus Rog strix RX500 OC 8gb, and purchasing a GTX 1070ti. Is that worth the upgrade?
     
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    I'd say so, as the RX500 is kind of weak. But, why settle for 1070 Ti? If you're spending money why not go for the gold and buy an EVGA 1080 Ti SC2 iCX with hybrid AIO cooler or EVGA Kingpin 1080 Ti?

    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6593-KR
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6798-KR

    If you decide to save money and go for the weaker 1070 Ti, be sure to get this one so it will hold its boost clocks.

    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5678-KR
     
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    Don't get the 1070 Ti AT ALL! Seriously, $50 bucks more and you get GDDR5X. Pay the $50 and get the real deal! A 1080!
     
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    The 1070ti you linked was actually the one I was looking at. I take it that Evga is currently making the best cards for Nvidia? Im not looking to beat anyone in benching, but Just looking for a little more umph.
     
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    I think if the guy is planning on shelling out a certain amount of money for a GTX 1070ti, I don't think he should go water cooled, because it's extra expense for only a percentage or two of performance. It's far better to put the extra money into a GTX 1080 air cooled version than spending money on a liquid cooled 1070ti. With liquid cooling you're probably only talking the difference between 2100Mhz vs 2050Mhz when overclocked, which would be the difference if my card was water cooled - it would hold 2100Mhz rather than drop to 2050Mhz, and that's only 2% difference in core clock, which equates to less than 2% performance difference. GTX 1080 or GTX 1080ti, well GTX 1080 is probably better bang for you buck. Although yes, I wouldn't buy GTX 1070ti, I'd splash out just a little more and get GTX 1080.
     
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    Evga has a solid record. But since supposedly you cannot bin for the 1070 Ti, I don't know how it works with evga, as they normally bin, then separate by skew. But, this is why, as well as not being able to sell factory OC, I see the 1070 as inferior. Lower bandwidth, slightly cut down, etc. Sure, take it over the 1070, but if able, just buy the real card, a 1080 from after the switch to the faster GDDR5X.
     
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    1070 TI is better for mining though....

    It honestly depends. Both will be good enough for most cases.
     
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    Yes, I think so. They are also the most hassle-free brand if dealing with warranty issues. Brother @Johnksss recommended them to me and that being one of the reasons. If you're going to have a problem, having to deal with retarded idiots that treat you like a criminal for making a warranty claim just adds insult to injury.
     
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    Vega seems a little overpriced then? Finding one of those in stock is difficult also?
     
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