*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

Mythical, fairy tale CPUs. I've never seen one in the wild.

 

Hard to come by. But, I see them every now and then. Unless you constantly check ebay on a daily basis, you’ll almost always miss them.. I personally owned a Xeon 1681 V3. I sold it on eBay to an individual who messaged me in regards to a pair of Xeon 2667 V3’s I was selling. I sold him the CPU totally untested, and it worked great for
him. This was almost 4 years ago.

 

I like the high core count parts. Here’s my new build! 7980XE, and a “Get me by till next gen” 1660Ti.

I just finished assembly today. I was waiting on a AIO to show up, so I could actually run this 7980XE.

Still waiting on another matching memory set to come as well.

 

Linux likes the new CPU as well. Even the memory clocks are correctly registering with sensors.

 

So is this your new main platform?

 

If you ever come across another one let me know! I would love to check it out since they're essentially unicorns likely made for a very select client and not really publicly available from what I've read.

 

Yes it is.

 

So what made you go 10900K? I considered a 10900K + Z490 myself.

Also, how long did you run that 7980XE for?

 

I switched from 7960X to 7980XE in May. So, I ran it since then. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the CPU or motherboard. They were both awesome. I just got bored (did everything I could with it, just as I had the 7960X before it) and didn't want to invest more money into something different like LN2. So, I sold the CPU to Brother @RMSMajestic and the mobo to a person in Ukraine (on eBay) and used the money to pay for the downgrade. Now I can play with something new and different without it costing me any money. And, the water chiller cools this smaller CPU extremely well. But, I almost do not even need it. I'm running this little guy at 5.5GHz on all cores without the chiller and seldom seeing 70°C in normal use and less than 80°C in Cinebench.

 

Wow 5.5Ghz is good for a 10900K. You’ve got a pretty beast water cooling setup too though. That must also be good silicon you’ve got.

 

It seems I did well in the silicon lottery. It came from NewEgg, so not a special purchase. It's actually a KF, so that may have something to do with it as well. I intentionally bought it because it has no integrated graphics to leech resources without serving any useful purpose.

Yes, it is a WHOLE LOT easier to cool 350W than it is 1100W.

 

Yeah the IGP only comes in handy for me when I sell my GPU. Which I switch video cards so frequently. I’ve been through (1) 2080 Super,(3) 2080Ti’s, (1) GTX1080 Strix, and now a 1660Ti just in the past few months.

Ready for Ampere so I can settle for a few years.

If they do not impress, I will go back to a 2080Ti with power mod.

 

1660Ti soldering shunts. This is a far cry from the power I am used to. But it will do.

 

I will just quietly watching you guys assembling nuclear bombs...

 

My 2nd 7980XE showed up. Are their two different retail packaging types?? My 2nd one is super fancy looking. Magnetic box, tinted gold hard plastic inside. Very nice. My first ones packaging is very cheap in comparison lol.

 

Damn now I kinda wish I went with @Mr. Fox X299 bundle earlier. 7980XE looks fun. I might get a RTX 3090 to play with.

Well if you do see one let me know. I will check eBay for awhile and see if I can find one.

 

First boot!

man I really wish my memory would come. Dual channel on X299 feels so wrong.

 

I want a RTX3090 pretty bad. I just hope Nvidia can offer a proper launch. The 2080Ti was a great card once power modified and put on water. But, it lived 2 years out of stock, and when it was in stock retailers would price gouge. It is simply ridiculous that Nvidia even allows such behavior.

 

@Mr. Fox



So, I went ahead and tried a modest OC. 4.5Ghz with Auto voltage. So, I was at 1.227 volts inside of windows. Temps seemed ok, for simple stuff non AVX. Please tell me, what is dangerous for these chips? I see Silicon lottery top 8% bins for 4.5Ghz were only running 1.125V at 4.5Ghz. And then I see Jayz2Cents pushing nearly 1.3V saying he has a great chip lol.

Any help is very much appreciated. I have (2) of these 7980XE’s. I plan to test them both, and keep only the best.

 

Shoot me a PM if you need more RAM. I might be able to help you out with that.

 

I wish I knew you might have been interested. I would have PM'd you a link. Brother @RMSMajestic got a great deal on a nicely binned monster CPU, so I am glad that it stayed in the NBR family.

 

Very satisfied guys!!

Intel i9 7980XE @4.5Ghz with 1.125V this should be top 8% based on Silicon lottery history. I will try 4.6Ghz next.

My scores are a little low. I am only running Dual channel ram, and my OS is a disaster right now. But, it still looks great! Nothing extreme the CPU is not delidded, and it is a newer 7980XE manufactured only 8-10 months ago?

No extreme stability test run yet. But, I will get there soon.

I LOVE THIS CPU!!! IM KEEPING IT!!! Quad channel, and 4.6Ghz coming soon.

Also, my core temperatures are pretty close to one another. I am shocked, because this CPU still has pigeon poop inside of it. All 18 cores are within 1-3C and 2 are about 7-8C away.

 

Are you gonna sell one after?

Yeah I kinda got back into playing with desktops since as we all know, the laptop desktop replacements just aren't as fun as they used to be.

I bought a old Alienware Aurora R4 full system (4820K, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD, 875W PSU, AMD R9 270) for $300. I plan to use the case, it looks nice, but idk about keeping the rest of the internals. 9980XE + X299 would have been a good start LOL. I ordered a 8-core unlocked Xeon, that AMD 270 is next to get kicked out of the system.

I'm awaiting the nVidia RTX 3090 announcement now.

 

I'm probably going to wait a year to see what happens. I am only going to buy Ti GPUs going forward and, on top of waiting for that, I also want to see lots of good examples of overclocking, alternative vBIOS options, and working shunt mods first. I fully expect Ampere GPUs will have the typical garbage firmware hobbling (that's the GeFarts way) and lack of adequate voltage and power limit control. I'm thinking I am done buying gamer crap that doesn't overclock worth a damn. If I can't do something special/different than the rest of the Kool-Aid drinking gamer kids are doing then I'm not interested. That's exactly why I am not drinking the Ryzen Kool-Aid. Having something mundane and cookie-cutter crap that sucks at overclocking just isn't very fun or interesting to me no matter how well it performs stock.

 

My 7980XE didn’t fall in to the top 2% of Silicon Lottery bins. But, it is in the top 8%. So that’s still pretty good.

I was getting a BSOD at [email protected] which is top 2% SL bin spec. I increased voltage to 1.145V and I was able to get windows stability. R15 locked up at 1.150 volts.

I will try a little more voltage. But with my limited cooling I probably can’t go much past 1.175v -1.2V.

Either way, I am extremely happy with 4.5Ghz with only 1.125V.

 

Yes, most likely you are experiencing thermal constraints.

 

Wow, very well said Sir.

 

Remember SL tests their chips with stated voltage in heavy workload/stress tests and is very conservative regarding the specked voltage vs clock speed. You can often run it at lower than the stated voltage for the chips and in stress tests.

 

I was going in to this with very low expectations. But seeing 4.5Ghz non AVX is amazing.

 

OEM Alienware cases are very nice. Built like tanks. Very heavy duty, and cool looking “Most of them”

 

I tested R20 over and over again just to confirm stability. I need a reliable PC more than anything right now. So, all of my tweaks are aimed after long term 24/7 stability.

I run a -2 AVX offset, and a -5 AVX 512 offset.

Temps are great! I even added a tad bit more voltage just to make sure everything is 100%. I would see like 1 out of 5 R20's fail randomly at 1.125Volts. 1.135 has totally fixed this.

She is good now. Performance is beastly, and this setup leaves me with some thermal head room. I could probably squeeze another 100mhz out of AVX loads.

I look forward to delidding this processor in the future.

 

Blowin' and goin'. Have a nice weekend, bros.

 

A (18) core processor is a animal. So much heat, so much power! I was just playing in the bios. And I upped my CPU power shut off to 140%, changed the motherboard VRM phase to extreme, and disabled something else related to VRM power to help OCing.

This all resulted in instability at 4.5Ghz during heavy AVX load “The same frequency I ran before” and much much hotter CPU temps. They shot up FASSTTT!!

I am going to have to delid this CPU, and upgrade cooling.

So, I’m not an expert in what I enabled previously. But, I put everything back to auto and 4.5Ghz is good again. But, I feel like my power delivery is gimped with these performance bios settings disabled.

My case door must stay off, and the fans at 100% this cpu is a furnace once you unleash all 36 threads at 4.5Ghz.

I did manage 1,200 in R15 EXTREME though!

 

What kind of a difference does that make? It was power limited even with the slider at 120% or whatever you could move the power slider to?

 

i7 10700k 5,3ghz

 

5,2ghz
small packages

 

Yea the 1660Ti can draw quite a bit more juice. It helps the card hold the clocks steady. You won’t see a huge gain on air cooling.

I never ran the card stock, so I wouldn’t know how it performed before. I got it from my brother, so I kinda have an idea how he explained it to me.

I see this 1660Ti pull 180+ watts in games. I can’t keep it cool enough for crazy high clocks. But, it’ll hold 2,115Mhz steady.

With the bios, and power mod on my card I have 280 watts of available power.

Watercooling would really open this card up. But, considering it is a 1660Ti it’s just not worth all that. Even at like 2.4Ghz on LN2 it’s barely faster than 2.1Ghz.

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3090 is apparently the new "Ti" so it will be

3090
3080
etc etc

But we will have to wait until the announcement to be sure. I will let you know how it performs if I get one.

Yup, except the generation after the R4, during the "haswell" transition. when their gaming laptops suffered during that time. I am curious if the lighting would work in a non AW MB. Some people state it works since the lights are controlled by a internal USB header powered master I/O board.

So are you building two X299 systems? or you were just binning CPUs.

I completely forgot 10980XE is only $999 now. I'm surprised how 9980XE is more expensive on eBay lol. Even 7980XE on ebay is close to a new 10980XE, not surprised at eBay pricing though

 

Nvidia have with this move opened up for several upgrade options for 3000 series graphics if AMD against all odds can offer equal/higher performance at cheaper price point, LOOL

3090 → 3090 Super/3090 Ti → 3090 Ti Super
(3085 Ti → 3085 Ti Super)
3080 → 3080 Super/3080 Ti → 3080 Ti Super
(3075 Ti → 3075 Ti Super)
3070 → 3070 Super/3070 Ti → 3070 Ti Super
(3065 Ti → 3065 Ti Super)
3060 → 3060 Super/3060 Ti → 3060 Ti Super

 

The 10980XE’s were only $1,000 USD at launch. But they suffered a severe price gouge problem over the past year. Always out of stock. People buying them up and selling them for profits around $1,600-$1,800 bucks on eBay was the normal even just a few weeks ago, and even now.

For all out maximum performance the 7980XE delidded will still outperform all of them. Especially with a direct die setup.

The 9980XE, and 10980XE are soldered and offer slightly better thermals and performance right out of the box. But only because of soldered IHS and higher default boost clocks.

I searched high and low for a 10980XE and even a 9980XE. And trying to find one cheaper than $1,400 dollars was a challenge.

As of right now, my 7980XE is not even delidded yet and it is blazing fast at 4.5Ghz all cores with temperatures between 75-82C under 100% loads.

After reading Gamer Nexus review and seeing a delidded 7980XE run wayyyyy cooler than both 9980XE and 10980XE. I do not regret my decision one bit.

The 10980XE’s have finally started to stabilize a little. And they are actually in stock on B&H photo right now for $1,179.99. They are probably already out of stock, or will be very soon.

Actually finding one for $1,000 is still tough!

The cool thing about these CPU’s is being able to individually overclock each core and customize voltage to each core. So, you can theoretically create a really fast 6-8-10 core CPU running at 5+ GHz. And then allow the rest of the cores to run at a slower speed. This is extremely time consuming. But, I am losing very little coming from a 5.3Ghz 8086K processor in my games, and gaining mountains in overall compute performance. I can almost recreate the same CPU inside of my 7980XE as IPC is practically the same.

These 7980XE’s are monsta’s!!! And the most fun I’ve ever had in my life with overclocking a processor lol.

 

So I assume you don’t think AMD is gonna put out huh lol? I think we may see something equivalent to a NON-A 2080Ti for around $500 bucks. Maybe.

 

Running R15 Extreme.

 

Intel 10th gen doesn’t throttle until at 110C? That is pretty nice.

 

TjMAX Temperature can be raised to 115° from 9th gen Intel chips.

 

That is awesome! Yeah the TJmax on my 7980XE is 110C right now. But, apparently I can change it to 115 in the bios or with a bios update.

The extra room is nice. I’m running 4.6Ghz right now, and at 550 watts during a R20 run my cores average 85C with peaks at 97C and lows at 76C.

100C limit is tight with 8th gen in a laptop. I remember the struggle.

 

@Mr. Fox

I am trying to set my voltage where it drops during idle use in windows. So, in order for this to work I must use Adaptive voltage, offset, or Auto voltage. Well I have tried all (3) and as soon I load in to windows and run loads it just restarts my PC immediately. Settings manual voltage of 1.203V for 4.6Ghz works perfect 100% stable. But, my voltage is constantly locked at 1.203V and my PC draws around almost 200W just sitting on the desktop. Not a huge deal, just curious if anyone knows what may be causing this?

I have checked the voltages that are being applied, and it runs around the same as my current 1.203V using auto, offset, or adaptive.

I think what is happening is once I apply a load, maybe my voltage is jumping abnormally high and tripping thermal shutoff or power shutoff? So is this a load line issue? Lowering the load line for voltage may fix this?

Any ideas?

 

Same with 10th gen.

FYI - I am not satisfied with how the Gigabyte BIOS is handling things so I am returning the Aorus Master and replacing it with a Maximus XII Apex board. That should be done sometime on Wednesday. If I am going to get this CPU to run stable above 5.5GHz I am going to need firmware that is built with that in mind and a gamer-boy BIOS isn't the right tool for the job.

I was drawing about 350W just sitting idle on the desktop and I've never given the idea of reducing power consumption a second thought because that's just not very important to me. That being the case, I am not sure what BIOS setting should be used for that to work best. Since I never use my systems in that manner, I don't know what is the best settings to accomplish that. Maybe @Rage Set has some insight on this.

What if you set everything static (the way I always do it and the way you are currently doing it) and select the Windows "Power Saver" profile? You may need to enable c-states in the BIOS (which I generally have disabled).

 

No big deal. I’ll just let it idle at 1.2V /4.6GHz.

Your 10900KF idles voltage down in the screenshots you posted, that’s what got me thinking about it anyways.

 

Yes, and not being able to have finite control over that (referring to what you noticed in the screenshots) is why I am switching to an Apex board. I was really hoping to stay away from Asus, but the Z470 Dark has never been available. At least all the bases are covered with enthusiast firmware mods and what-not with an Apex board. ROG Maximus XII Apex | HWBOT Community Forums. There is a similar thread for the Aorus Master, but I am not seeing any improvement in control with the X4 Aorus enthusiast BIOS mod. Basically seems no different than stock to me.

 

This Ole’ Grandpa processor of mine is doing great! Haha jk.