*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

Wow! RTX3090's get 20K time spy graphics? That is fast. Plenty for 1440P 165HZ I think.

What do you run your 9900K at ? Any B-die tweaking yet?

The XMP profile of our 4000Mhz CL15 sticks is pretty tame. So, I would certainly adjust the tRMEI and tFAW immediately.

When I run my 4x8GB sticks at XMP, I get around 108GBPS bandwidth with 62NS latency. Once I set the tREMI to 32767, and the tFAW to 30. This jumps to around 123GBPS and 49.9NS latency. By only changing (2) timings. Additional tweaking has resulted in some extreme performance. 127.5GBPS, and 47.2NS latency.

Anyways, I imagine it is fun playing with the 3090.

 

I haven't tweaked anything hardware or software. I didn't even clean out the old 5700xt drivers. I spent a few hours cleaning out my case, fans and washing out the filters and rerunning some wiring to make room.

The 9900k is @ 5ghz 1.312v on that run (daily driver settings), memory @ stock XMP. The memory is taller than my old Vengeance B-Die sticks, so my front Noctua fan has to sit up higher than the center fan now by a little....boo.

I'll be giving it a clean install later.

Also, Windows 10 update has drivers on hand already. It auto installed before I knew it, and I didn't even clean those out. I just laid the newest ones over it. Just wanted to make sure it was working before proceeding.

Since I sold my 5700xt 50th AE a month ago on the ASSumption that RTX would be available on launch, I've been using an XFX 5700xt from BB the last 20 some odd days. Even OC'd to ~2084 and hitting ~10k TS WoW still dropped it into the low 30's and a few high 20's @4k even on setting 7/10 in raids with the new engine and prepatch that dropped Tuesday:





I'll be returning it tomorrow

And I definitely will be switching to the NH-D15 Chromax.black The silver and tan sticks out like a sore thumb. That and some cable sheaths and ties.

 

The 3090 looks great! What motherboard do you use?

 

EVGA FTW Z390...

 

Small pushes to 20433 with clean install no other tweaks yet to memory or elsewhere w/ beta MSI Afterburner +50 core, +125 GPU, +100 mem

 

I am getting a 2080ti tomorrow. This will be my (3rd) 2080Ti that I have owned. The last time, the deal fell through on a local 2080Ti Strix "Seller backed out". Well, this seller has a several of them, so it should go just fine.

 

Is this one a Strix liked the backed out one or other brand? Didn't want to wait for Big Navi announcement? Depending on performance and stock on hand, prices *could* trend back down on used models at the worst or perhaps a Big Navi card is in your future?

 

Anything over $500 is a bad purchase. I hope you got it cheap.

 

I am trading hardware for it. So this is even better for me.

 

It is a founders edition. I’m watercooling it immediately, then Galax bios flash, and then soldering on the 8ohm shunts “already have them”. So that’ll give me 532 watts of available power.

My last 2080Ti was consistent at 17,250 in timespy graphics, and I only had 440 watts due to it being a non-A, and it was 100% reliable in games too. It would lock on to 2,130Mhz and never back off. It pulled over 40K in fire strike graphics.

This is only about 15% slower than a RTX3090. And around 3-5% slower than a RTX3080. Plus I get an extra 1GB of Vram. All for not needing to come out of pocket at all for the cost of the GPU. So this is just easier for me.

If I could go back, I would have never sold my 2080Ti, because it too was already within 2 or 3% of a 3080. They are beastly once setup right.

The only way to make the 3080 really worth it is to give it the same treatment. Good watercooling, and the stacking the shunts for power sensing mod. Then it’ll fly!!

 

You should do Apple vs. apple comparison. Somewhat wrong comparing a modded 2080Ti vs. stock 3080.

 

All I am saying is, any 2080Ti can get within a couple percent of a RTX3080. And the RTX3080 is unobtainable. So the average individual cannot compare the two at all.


And that is the definition of value, what you can get out of a product. And I can get a 3080 out of a 2080Ti lol.


And I’d value a 2080Ti more than $500 bucks.

A 3070 is gonna be $500 suggested price on October 31st on its official “Sell out day” so I’d imagine $800-$1000 dollars to buy one. And 8GB of Vram just doesn’t cut it anymore.

I would take a 2080Ti FE over a 3070 any day. And a 3080 is around $1,200 USD. So the 2080Ti falls in the middle for pricing. And can overclock well on watercooling and perform just as good as a 3080.

 

What is a hot spot sensor? 106C?

Maybe next year it might be, but until they get a steady supply of cards more like 600 to 700 if your lucky.

And like mentioned....Nvidia is telling stories. Those 3070's will be gone day 1.
The only way they aren't is if Nvidia had been making them like 2 month's before the 3080 launch, which I'm going to go out on a limb and say no.
Now if they have plenty of cards with no shortages for the first week, then a 500 TI might be doable.

 

That’s why I’m good with a proper 2080Ti. They’re still quick once setup right.

I still don’t understand why Nvidia allows bots to buy out the inventory in seconds, only to be resold for profit..Why not force a CAPTCHA and limit (1) per household? Then, they would actually be available and in stock for an average individual to buy one.

Maybe require someone to login through the Geforce website. And you are strictly limited to one card.

 

That's just it. It's not just Nvidia, it's ALL of them.

 

Could be Nvidia have saved some to destroy for AMD's launch. But with AMD + the whole Nvidia range included 20GB cards in Nov/Dec I would keep my money until then. I mean still $500 is about correct price. But wee will see. I don't have a magic ball

 

The infamously over aggressive Tjunc temp AMD set for RDNA1. Their cap is ~110 I think.

Any foray into 4k set it to 100+ where even though Tjunc is 110 capped, it routinely breaks 100. 2560x1600 would result in ~89 tops.

XFX does have a Thicc II model that actually cools it properly and when the 5700xt first dropped, there was a washer mod to help cool it down.

I had one on order to frog jump from my now returned XFX Raw to the Thicc while waiting for a 30 something to pop or AMD to launch a meaningful salvo, but then the 3090 popped
and I returned the XFX RAW II and canceled the XFX THICC II.

And yeah, if I had a 2080ti, the only way up is a 3080 or 3090 (or potentially a BigNavi21). All I know is I would be bouncing off the walls with a 1650....
I suspect the 3070 will sell out instantly too as it truly starts to move into the sweet spot (Sub 500) where the bulk of GPUs are actually sold.

 

If you're looking for killer performance outside of top dog Benchmark wars AND you want something RIGHT NOW, it makes sense especially if you got a decent price but like futures, it's a guessing game how 3070 stock and what AMD has to offer will effect the current pricing trends.

And the bots are just relentless. I still keep tabs and keep track for several friends and guildies who are looking and so far not much (well not much at MSPR).

I do know 10900k's are now available in many places at 529.00. Even Newegg put up a large lot of them on eBay @ 529 a week back. Hopefully some bot buyers got stuck with dozens if not 100's. Maybe AMD's imminent release of their 5000 series put the brakes on the dry supply.
Hopefully AMD can do the same if only to a small degree to the NVIDIA dry sands.

 

Are you sure?



https://hardforum.com/threads/rtx-3xxx-performance-speculation.1987972/page-101#post-1044756489

 

Yeah, I'm 100 percent sure. ( Have no problem being wrong though, but that's my final offer)

 

I’m 100% happy now guys!! More room, with and more power.

 

I don't think that's how you install a 2080ti.....

 

So I got this Asus TUF case for 100% free. An extra bonus. The individual I met last night and received the 2080Ti from actually had, (3) 2080Ti’s (1) 3090, and a (1) 3080. He was a full fledge millionaire for sure. He pretty much let me take my pick of the liter on the 2080Ti(s), I’ve been texting him quite a bit over the past couple days. So, the generosity was very nice. He paid nearly 3k for his 3090, and nearly 2k for his 3080. Apparently he has it to burn like that, by owning multiple companies.

I really didn’t even feel ok accepting something so nice as a gift or freebie from a total stranger. But, ok! The dude was trying to give me even more stuff!


Anyways, it’s nice having a full tower. Very roomy!

Oh and, my 2080Ti FE has Samsung memory, an added bonus!

 

He forgot the CPU cooler, case fans, and case panels too, I don't think there's much hope for him!

 

Hey what can I say, delidding is just magical! My 7980XE doesn’t even need a cooler! Even at 4.8Ghz lol.

 

I think we mere mortals who are budget aware tend to forget there is a large swath of users out there who have massive amounts (or at least much more than we have) of disposable income and dropping 2-4k on a GPU is really a nothing burger to them.

It also comes down to priorities and where you want to focus your luxury/disposable income.

I had a buddy tell me how could I spend so much on tech (which I really don't when all is said and done), and I just calmly asked him how much his smoking and drinking cost him monthly? That shut him down because I know for a fact he drops a minimum 800+ a month on top shelf and fine cigars.

Priorities.

Congrats on the case! It kinda, sorta potentially solves your quest for a new one.

There are still plenty of kind people in the world too.

 

Yea it really seems to fit me ok. I am 100% happy with it. It’s a good quality case too it seems.

I love that I can mount 3.5” HDD’s behind the motherboard tray. Tons of room.

This little 2080Ti is throwing down too. Just on air cooling so far. But, it’ll break that 17,200K graphics soon enough, once I cool it down.

This is just with the 380W Galax Bios. Running hot as all get out too.

 

Guys this 2080Ti has some crazy memory on it.

So, usually with the RTX cards you may think your memory overclock is stable in benchmarks only to see it crash in long term gaming.

Well, I am running 16,500 so far on the memory and climbing. I’ve never seen a 2080Ti clock so well on the memory of the (4) 2080Ti’s I have owned. My last one ran around 16,125

 

Hard to beat these prices. Rare to see 9900K below $300.

Intel 9th Gen CPUS Are Shockingly Cheap, if You Live Near a Micro Center tomshardware

 

OMG! I just looked they’re in stock too. Wow $299 for a 9900K.

 

The fun part is seeing the locked 9900 cost more Add in a cheap MB, the price cutted Turing and some ram and you can get an ok gaming setup.

 

I am am shocked, a 9700K is $199?!

Some people are not close to a Microcenter though. Closest to me is in another state over 3-4 hour drive.

They have always done the good CPU pricing. I remember back a few years when the Intel 5960X was actually extreme lol, and they were $1,099 every you looked online. But, Microcenter priced them at $649.99 in store only. An amazing deal at the time. Like 2014-2015 era.

So seeing a 9900K for $299.99. Is just amazing. We have come so far with CPU’s.

 

So I maxed out my 2080Ti at 16,550Mhz on the memory. That’s pretty good.

 

Looks like those AMD specs are firming up.

Higher base and boost clocks and 2x the CU/SP's (80 vs 40) as the 5700xt on the flagship AMD exclusive 6900XTX

I know the 3080 is about 2x faster than my old 5700xt even OC'd to ~2100mhz.

The 6900XTX is looking to be coming in hot at right around 3080 levels of performance

Depending on price/performance, I have no problems stepping down and pocketing the major difference.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6900xt-to-feature-navi-21-xtx-gpu-with-80-cus

 

Im telling you. I’d sell that 3090 for like $1,800 which is like a crazy low price lol. Then you could pocket probably over $1,000 dollars and still get a 6900XT.

Or could could seriously squeeze some money out of it, if you wanted of course.


I wonder if AMD will let us run (2) 6900XT’s.


Dual GPU performance in flight sim is crazy good. It literally uses about 185% performance of the GPU’s combined with 2080Ti’s and other RTX gpu’s.

 

Even if AMD matches a 3080 in rasterization, they will lack DLSS and I have large doubts AMDs ray tracing will keep pace or not have growing pains. CyberPunk 2077 will ONLY support Nvidia RTX for racing tracing and DLSS 2.0 on launch which is a huge loss for AMD.

 

How's it going with the 3080, have you learnt much about it since you upgraded the vBIOS? Did you get much of an overclock performance with the new vBIOS? Where you at with the card, do you like it, what could it do better, and how's it do in your games at what res? I'm still waiting in a pre-order queue for my TUF 3080! I'm about place 1100 in the queue!

 

Hey Brother @Johnksss (and anyone else that has it) if your ASUS mobo has the Intel i225-V NIC and you are missing Windows 7 drivers for it, I found an easy tweak that fixed it for me. Now it works on Windows 7 and I can disable the crappy CPU-degrading Intel i219-V in the BIOS. Easy INF mod with Notepad.

RE: Installing i225-v ethernet drivers (W10 drivers) on windows 7?

Start with this driver and only use the content in the PRO2500 folder.

https://downloadmirror.intel.com/29857/eng/25_2.zip



Now, if I can find a driver mod for the WiFi 6 AX card I will be set with all of the "incompatible" hardware working perfectly on Windows 7. I even have the NVIDIA RTX Type-C drivers working on Windows 7 now. Screw the Redmond Retards and the Green Goblin and their lies about incompatible hardware. The only thing incompatible with Windows 7 is their incompetence.

 

True, in the end I want to play my games and run my benchmarks to the best of their ability.

CyberPunk 2077 is a major reason I upgraded for the full package.

WoW looks fantastic @ 4k RT on Ultra quality. I get about ~112-120fps everywhere (even though my 4k display is 60hz).

On another note, I do play Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and have started playing back through it @ 4k Ultra/High settings, and with GPUZ running in the background, look at the memory used. That's right on the cusp of a 3080's max.

 

I used DLSS for the first time in my life today. And, I have owned multiple RTX GPU’s all in the past 3-4 months period.

I started playing Metro Redux again today. I was playing before, but I lost all of my progress with my 1660Ti. No better reason to start the game again, but by getting a 2080Ti.

So I enabled ray tracing on ultra, and enabled DLSS. My FPS went up by about 20-22 frames per second.

I can only really see a difference with smoke or fog in the distance.

I really like DLSS. I had no idea it was this good. Im only using a 2080Ti, so I’m not sure how good DLSS 2.0 may work. But Cyberpunk 2077 will support regular DLSS too right?

 

This is where that 11,264MB comes in to play on the 2080Ti lol.


Looking forward to Cyberpunk more than anything right now.

 

Yeah, this is one of the reasons AMD pushed for 16GB and Nvidia will come up with their 16/20GB cards.

For those that will continue with 1080/1440p http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ers-welcome-too.810490/page-842#post-11047153

 

I think the RTX3070 8GB is really going to present a vram issue. Even at only $500.

 

3070 isn't a 4K card. Today's question will be... Why buy coming 3070 with 8GB vRam for $500 if you can get Big Navy with 16GB performing above and with price point in-between 3070/3080. Or better say nearer 3070. Maybe all pan out to be "what card you will have access to".

 

Does only RTX3000 series support DLSS 2.0? I am reading conflicting information.

 

Yeah apparently it runs at like 2.4Ghz too. So, it looks like some sorta of temperature boosting algorithm has been thrown out the window to get competitive performance.

Because the Xbox Series X runs at like 1,825Mhz, and the PS5 runs at over 2.3Ghz I am guessing to make up for the lower tier equipped GPU. Maybe they've done the same with Big Navi 6900XT.

If only we could overclock GPU’s just like CPU’s. I guess next gen wouldn’t look so appealing if you could easily overclock a 2080Ti 90% over base frequency like my 7980XE so easily does.

 

Why not read specs on Nvidia? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080/

 

Memory allocated != memory used

The latest version of MSI Afterburner and RTSS will show how much video memory is actually being used by a process.

 

Ok I see it now. I thought only RTX3000 supported DLSS 2.0.

So to reiterate, my 2080Ti has DLSS 2.0.

Nice.

 

I think you know why that is irrelevant (6 of one, half a dozen of another) and I've found GPU-Z to fairly accurate in real time allocation graphs (my pic was showing highest values top to bottom),but I went ahead and loaded up MSI AB and here is a real time pic inside the game....