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    *Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Mr. Fox, Nov 5, 2017.

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    what bios configuration do you use? and voltage?
     
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    See attached files. You can see settings in the text documents exported.
     

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    makina69 Notebook Consultant

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    these functions that do?
    are important?

    CPU Current Capability [140%]
    Long Duration Package Power Limit [4095]
    Short Duration Package Power Limit [4095]
     
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    Yes, they give the CPU a supply of watts and amps greater than what the CPU is able to consume to work with and eliminates the possibility of power limit or current limit throttling.
     
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    Moved up to the big leagues and bought a Samsung NVME Pro! :rolleyes:

    Did a comparison between an 512gb Intel SSD NVME VERSUS 1TB Samsung NVME M.2 960 pro.

    Crystal Disk Mark Compare IntelvsSamsumg.PNG
     
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    Congratulations! 1TB of Samsung MLC storage must have cost an arm and a leg :D
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You got it for an ok deal? Not that it's the big difference in performance. But I hope you did not pay more than what the newer 970 Pro costs Samsung 970 Pro SSD Review: Expensive MLC Excellence
     
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    ...and TOTALLY worth it in a world of TLC drives :confused: ;)

    thatll be my next drive... :cool: :D
     
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    I got it for pretty cheap. It's used but still shows 100% life.
     
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    Only 1TB, Nope :no: I have 2x 512GB old Samsung 950 Pro. I'm sure I can't see the performance difference vs. the newer in dayly use. Not even vs. my 850 Pro :vbbiggrin:
    Great :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Here is the health report

    Crystal Disk Info.PNG
     
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    lol u say "only 1 TB" while stating u sport 2x512 GB 950 Pro :p point being, drives like these are not meant to be the ONLY storage for a user ;)

    and right, if we start talking about tangible, real life differences, then we might as well shut down NBR, because...who in here only gets hardware just for performance difference you can actually FEEL rather than just measure in benchmarks......? anyone......? u get my point :rolleyes: ;)

    in any case, this could very well be the last high end MLC drive we see, with only TLC going forward. next big step up would be X-Point, but thats still quite some time away to be affordable AND in sufficiently sized drives.
     
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    You couldn't get bigger than 512GB 950 Pro. As well I could only put 2 of those in my laptop :D
     
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    Oh, definitely! I'm leaning towards a 512GB 970 Pro as well. Warranty aside, the Evo is sort of underwhelming, at least with current, flawed drivers, but it is a lot more sensible. I can stomach a 1TB Evo, but not a Pro. Gotta have those numbers though. :)
     
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    Congrats on the purchase! Like Papusan and others have said (at one time or another), these uber fast drives don't really make a difference beyond a modern SATA 3 SSD unless you're running specific workloads that most PC users don't run, but it's still cool to have the latest & greatest and even cooler if you can actually use it's power.
     
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    I tested v1301 yesterday. I went back to BIOS v1101. Whatever they did to "improve RAM compatibility" wasn't working for me. I was having many IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (0x0000000A), SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (0x0000003B) and PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (0x00000050) crashes using XMP 3200 and 3400 that I never had before. After seeing that happen 5 or 6 times just doing normal stuff like web browsing it became clear it was not worth testing any further. After dropping back to v1101 all of the BSOD issues instantly went away.
     
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    what I teach is nothing special ... xd
     
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    Good night forum I wanted to ask if it is worth changing a corsair h100 v2 radiator 240 for a
    Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro radiator 360
     
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    If you're going to be overclocking like you have been, bigger is better. Might see around 3 to 5c drop in temps at a substantial overclock. Although you have been able to get 5.0ghz at 1.24v so really your temps should be really good unless you're going for more.

    I haven't used a 240mm before so I'm guessing on those temps. Someone will be along to give you a more definitive answer that has experienced using both.
     
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    cinebench 5ghz 1,264v temp 59 degrees,temp aio liquid 29 degrees...
     
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    in general good news, but M.2 22110 will not fit in any laptops without modding...
    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Seems good already, I wouldn't bother personally.
     
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    u still have tons of thermal headroom left. have u even clocked your 8700k into thermal limit? or is 5 ghz ur silicon limit already? cant imagine at that vcore though, way too low for that...
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    Maybe he has a good chip. I'm at 4.7 GHz 1.175V on an 8600K myself. I've read that an increase of 25mV for every 100MHz is a good guideline to follow for Intel.
     
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    25 mV might be a bit tight, better opt for around 40-50 mV, at least when testing stability with p95. in any case, its always best to check each multiplier in steps of 5 mV individually to get the most out of your chip. it takes longer but in the end ull get the best performance per thermal ratios :)
     
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    good choice! when it comes to looks vs performance, always go for the latter (and save money when different looks at same performance :p )
     
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    good forum I want to buy these memories G.Skill F4-4400C19D-16GTZSW ,but the problem is that they are 4400mhz and the top of my motherboard is 4133mhz,
    to put this ram to 4133mhz that timings e to put?
     
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    I might've found out why it's not working. Apparently the boot nvme needs to be in the #1 m.2 slot which is above my GPU. I have it in the slot below my GPU. I will try switching them out when I get home tonight.
     
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    your motherboard rating of 4133 mhz only means thats its thus far only been officially validated up to 4133 mhz. it doesnt mean its physically impossible to get 4400 mhz running on your mobo. still, at such speeds failure is always an option. but ull only find out by lots of trial and error :)

    also make sure to keep your cpu at stock clocks and voltages first for stability purposes and to consider overvolting system agent, I/O and VDIMM for higher ram stability.

    alternatively, set your cpu to max stable overclock with appropriate voltages and use that as baseline. just be aware that the higher u clock ur cpu, the more likely it is that u could run into ram speed limitations. its always a bit of a balancing game...

    as for timings at 4133 mhz, go ahead and check out currently available 4133 mhz kits with the same memory config to see what kind of timings they sport. that should give you a good baseline for where to start tweaking :)
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    The slower timings at 4400mhz should still work at 4133mhz.

    Find the XMP enablement in the BIOS and turn it on, see what readings it has loaded, write them down before(!) rebooting, and if it doesn't come up cleanly at 4400mhz try setting speed to 4133mhz and set manually all the individual memory settings you wrote down - loaded from XMP profile from the memory.

    If 4133mhz is where the motherboard determines to set the speed after reading the 4400mhz XMP settings, try that first, again write down all the memory settings details read from the XMP profile before restarting, so you can have them to set manually.

    You might try 1 DIMM alone first, or 2, not 3 or 4 to start.

    Please let us know how it works out.
     
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    Yes, my motherboard is made like that and I think it is common to Z370 (maybe even Z170 and 270). I was going to post something and then saw you already figured it out. I have W7 on one 960 Pro and W10 on another 960 Pro and both are independently bootable, but SATA ports 5 and 6 are not available in this configuration.
     
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    Will most likely be plug-and-play. A 32GB 4-DIMM configuration of this memory has already been tested and validated by ASUS and added to their QVL reference.
    http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...66.167456963.1525069138-1953211109.1525069138
    upload_2018-4-30_7-19-7.png
     
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    then there is no problem I can buy this ram G.Skill F4-4400C19D-16GTZSW and put them to 4133mhz with 19-19-19-39 1.35v?
     
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    then my motherboard can be set to 4400mhz according to the qvl?
     
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    better add direct fan cooling on top just to be on the safe side :D
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    I've even run 1.500V on the P870DM3 RAM and it never got hot. But, the kit I ordered includes a fan.

    Should be able to select the XMP profile and run automatically.
     
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    Gotcha. Still a bit apprehensive running memory at voltage under constant load that runs for long duration's.

    Which kit did you get btw.?
     
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    Kit for the desktop? Or, are you asking about what I used to have in the DM3?
     
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