*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

I was hoping when the Titans came out, one XOCer would release their better vBIOs since the majority are using Titans. Not the case. It really looks like those vbios are going to remain behind the NDAs unlike last gen or you're going to have to buy the Kingpin cards.

 

I don't have any noteworthy runs with Windows 10 because the scores are lower than Windows 7. So, I never bother saving the results from Windows 10 because they are too low to compete with Windows 7 on almost everything that doesn't require Windows 10 (Time Spy, etc.). Kind of sneaky that some of the more recent benchmarks are not "compatible" with Windows 7. I suspect that is by design, since Windows 7 almost always makes Windows 10 look bad where performance is concerned.

I think Linux is already outperforming Windows 10 in Cinebench, but I should check to verify it before presenting it as fact.

 

Broke 16K in Time Spy...personal goal...

Time Spy: 16013


Note: This is still my regular daily driver gaming desktop. The whole goal here is to see what it can achieve in its pure form as a desktop and not a test bench. I'm also focusing on stability and so far 5.3GHz is rock solid... 5.4GHz is throwing a fit, but I'm pretty confident that I can get that dialed in on the test bench ... however, pretty pleased so far with what this 'desktop' has produced... It's one 'heckava' gaming rig and a lot of fun.

 

That's really unfortunate. That's why I posted this in another thread.

 

That's very exciting stuff with the progression of Linux. I've been keeping a very close eye on it as a Linux user with the gaming realm and yes, it's catching up / or have already caught up in some areas...

I'm sure many of us can't wait for the day when we can ditch M$ ... something major would have to happen though to where it shakes the dev scene like crazy for a forced change... Let's welcome that.

 

Yeah, I would love to see that. Would be great to see a major upset on the business side of computing as well. I cannot think of any good reasons for corporate America to stick with Windows. They could all run versions of Linux with paid support (like Red Hat) and really put the hurt on the Redmond Retards. That would be really awesome.

The biggest impediment is end user perception. The bean counters would be easily swayed, but getting the workforce of sheeple to embrace it might not be so easy. Some are challenged (intimidated, stressed out, etc.) from something as mundane as moving from Windows 7 to 10 on their workstation or laptop... just as they were back when they transitioned from Windows XP to Windows 7. Minor changes in technology are sometimes excruciatingly painful for the average Joe. The key word there is "change" of course. While it is inevitable, it isn't embraced. Now, when the implementation of change actually sucks at the product level, because the product is inferior, (like Windows 10,) that adds a whole different dimension to it. The people that hate change don't like it just because it is different and they hate all change, and the people that normally embrace change don't like being duped by the sucky product.

 

Haha so true. These quacks are master minds of trapping people in and keeping them in the comfort zone. The quick sand that they have created is very crafty that draws in the masses due to the convenience factor; rather "perceived," convenience coupled with familiarity factor.

It's sad indeed... but I'm doing my part in letting those around me daily know how awesome Linux is, because it really is. A lot of people have switched already. For those coming from OSX, I just jazzed up the UI to look and function just like OSX with the 'docky' app drawer app and everything lol.. For the windows crowd, even stock Mint looks and feels very close so there is little to change.

Even if we don't get the catastrophic event to shake up the dev/game realm, having options currently is such a relief to see...

If we had native 1:1 gaming support alone on Linux I'm sure a lot of people would switch to it as fast as...





Looking forward to running these on the test bench... .031ms away from being the fastest on H20 and currently 4th for 1024M and just milliseconds away breaking sub 1 sec.... Great fun..

 

Very nice @JoeT44. Thanks for sharing... I love getting pinged for new posts on this thread. Which 1080Ti card do you have there? Nice core clocks... super.

I'll be putting my 1080Ti on the test bench first before the 2080Ti ...

 

Thank you. I have 2 SC2 1080 Ti's. One I bought from Brother @Mr. Fox and one I bought a couple of weeks ago. Brother Fox had already done a power mod and flashed a modded vbios and the other was stock and my friend did the power mod and I flashed it.

 

I haven't fired up the chiller or cranked it up to 5.2GHz (too busy at work right now) but here is a comparison to the Linux runs with Windows 7 and Windows 10 with the same BIOS settings. As suspected, Windows 10 is the loser (status quo). Linux beats Windows 10 and comes very close to matching Windows 7. These are the best of 3 back-to-back runs (using Cinebench "Keep best score" feature).







@Vasudev

 

That ain't happening in this life Bro. You giving up benching?

 

I agree with him. I thought about stopping myself (and I did for a while for periods in 2017/2018). My issue stems from the "favorites" aka well known OC'ers getting the good stuff (firmware, hardware and software) and the less known OC'ers having to compete against that. Like all facets of life, a lot of times it comes down to who you know.

I love the art of overclocking. I still hold my breath and cheer out loud whenever I beat a personal best. It is an addiction but it is one I would, begrudgingly, leave behind if I continue to see what I see.

 

The road paved with good intentions leads to a dark place. I hear it's also pretty hot there. I don't want to visit, but I don't like the trend we are seeing.

Yup, lots and lots of silly nonsense. Especially, the way the Green Goblin is manipulating things with RTX. They've taken their underhanded shenanigans to a new level with the overclocking interference, and I'm not impressed. Even a little bit. Pascal was bad enough, but they have redefined stupid with the power and voltage limits being locked down tighter than a gnat's butt, and hardware mod-resistant with the RTX product line.

Anyhow, @Robbo99999 here's 5.2GHz on Linux Mint Cinebench... very close to Windows 7 results. 49.00 versus 49.54 for Windows 7.
https://hwbot.org/submission/4012996_mr._fox_cinebench___r11.5_core_i9_7960x_49.54_points

 

I agree wholeheartedly with you Brother @Rage Set about the favoritism given to these so called Professional OC'ers but I like you am addicted to this very expensive hobby. I try not to be obsessive about beating others scores but as you point out it's more about beating my own best scores. I would love to buy two 2080 Ti's but in a year or so there will be another faster card or a faster chip and I'll tell you my wife and I have had some heated discussions when I want to buy new hardware for my rig.

 

I have always loved the hardware side of computing, and playing with the latest and greatest. Thats why I choose AMD, as they may not be top tier, but they are close at a fraction of the cost. Just because my numbers arent quite as high as an equivalent Intel machine, they are still quite good. Plus there arent as many AMD overclockers, which makes it more fun to me.

 

OpenGL is nice, but not as good as DirectX. It seems to not handle overclocking on the GPU as well. Probably because I cannot lock the voltage like I can in Windows with MSI Afterburner. Here's an overclocked Superposition run, which is lagging behind Windows 7 a little more than Cinebench.

 

Do all these benchmarks run natively on Linux, or are you having to use some sort of emulator? Forgive me if it was already mentioned. Im such a noob with Linux. I can see the shortcut on the desktop, so it seems it runs natively.

 

No, none of them do except for Unigine Heaven, Valley and Superposition. There are Linux versions of those. Other than those, there are not really any good Linux benchmark programs that run natively. I am using WINE for Cinebench.

 

Absolutely it is an art 100%. There's a sense of accomplishment from benching that can not be achieved through a regular game IMO.

Ah yes I can relate being addicted to a very expensive hobby indeed. When I OC, my main emphasis is on what is stable, then for fun I try to see what it can do for benches.

I've always griped how they should categorize the different classes better. 3DMark has it the worst in that they are all bunched up together which is super annoying...

As for your heated discussions, just be ready for when she says...."who do love more, me or those stupid card things with fans on them that says 2080Ti..." haha jk jk

Isn't the WINE program great? I like it a lot ... it brings that well needed bridge for Linux...

 

Here's my 1024M wPrime run...

 

Cool, so on that test Windows 7 is 0.4% faster than Linux and 1.2% faster than Windows 10. Not massive differences, but differences.

 

I tried the Strix XOC vBIOS and it was utter garbage. GPU-Z had VRel performance cap running stock and there was no way to lock it at max voltage. The 1000W power limit is a worthless joke. Also disabled two of the three DisplayPorts. Back to the Aorus Extreme vBIOS...

 

Here's a Fire Strike run...

 

And, a Heaven benchmark. Now it's time for bed.

 

You can increase the pts further in Linux by tweaking renice value to -10. @jclausius @Dennismungai @sa7ina Any idea how to tweak NICE value in Q4wine?

 

Just launch the binary directly with the renice value you want, eg sudo nice -n -10 -c su ./someapp

 

Nope...
Did not installed wine at all.
If i really need windows program i run it natively.
Shrunk windows partition to 100GB and left the rest for ubuntu.
GRUB automatically set dual boot option for me.

I don't really have time for benchmarking too.
I benchmark my system differently and only if i want to test new settings.
The performances leaps i get in most cases are due to architecture advancements. (And implementing them in the code
Like the TENSOR CORES in the new TURING\VOLTA architecture.
After a few days of work they gave me on my system 8 X the FPS i was getting on 1080Ti!!!!!!!
10% improvement after a month or so of tweaking and testing chasing a few extra MHz are a waste of time for me.
I do those only to keep the system cool then forgetting about it.
It's fun benchmarking though if you have time or better. Someone is paying you to do so like some here

 

If somebody here is being paid to run benchmarks, I need to find out who they are and who they are working for so I can sign up for that.

 

Lol, me too please!

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Sign me up. I'm in!

 

OK...OKKK!!!
I'm taking it all back!

 

Wait, what? You mean nobody is being paid to bench? Darn it, anyhow, I thought my ship had finally come in, LOL.

 

Add my name too! LOL.

Actually Q4Wine grays out NICE value maybe it knows Windows app must not be trusted!

 

Does this do the NICE values correctly? I could not tell any difference in terms of the priority the program runs.

 

This would be more fun, but also a whole lot more expensive. Don't skip the part with the road test. Insane! Brother @Johnksss should trade in his Mercedes for one of these.

 

Crazy! Impressive power, and seeing that MPH guage shoot up so fast was quite amazing. Definitely an American car suited to the States, too big for European roads and probably wouldn't go round a corner without a fight!

 

Its actually reverse in Linux! 0 is default priority and more minus values ( I think -20 is the max for real time priority). I think you found that Q4wine won't change to -ve values.

 

I like airplanes: (steep turns and stalls

 

Oh yeah! But i'm not a truck guy.

 

New Goal is achieved !! This time for tightening my poor ram set timing As you could see from my previous post.. I achieved earlier my ram timing is 14-17-17-38 but now.... my ram timing is... 13-17-17-28-CR1 at 2733Mhz! soo.. I did HCI memtest with (8 instances) [Thanks to @Robbo99999 advice] + memtest86 + TM5 tests.. all went good!
Now benefits.. well.. nearly nothing changed on memory read & write bandwidth but.. Latency decreased ! the lower.. the better!

Spoiler: Screen shots for new OC RAM timing results

I did my best to go further and tight it more but...it won't boot at all... nada RAM is screaming for help

Conclusion & Benefits:-
- I have seen huge increase for minimum fps and avg fps on games really but non significant increases on max fps
- Also Winrar & 7zip is more smoother and faster on extracting & reading
- Excel sheets & PowerPoints & Office stuff also have positive performance
- And a positive difference in booting performance Applications starting faster really

My job is done..Now I can sleep better with a peace of mind.. got a free performance boost without paying a single penny but it is really time consuming & exhausting to revive my laptop from brick state every time through SPI Programmer

I AM DONE... Peace Out!

 

Hey, excellent results from your starting point of a stock configuration, and even more kudos for you by managing to get it done on a locked down laptop which makes it far more complicated than just typing in few numbers into a desktop BIOS! Yep, RAM overclocking & testing was the most time consuming part of any overclocking I have ever done - both on my laptop and on my desktop. On my laptop I had to use Typhoon Burner to write new XMP timings & frequencies (way back in year 2013 - it's in my sig under the spoiler), so I know some of the complications involved with trying to tweak laptops, which no doubt you experienced with yours!

 

My brother is looking at getting a Raptor, I am linking him this.

 

FedEx came early

 

Sweet! Congrats and best of luck with that beauty. May your temps be low and your FPS be high

 

And may your rig be dust free

 

New PB 2700X
https://hwbot.org/submission/4104137_

 

Another PB CB 20
https://hwbot.org/submission/4104149_

 

Where can CB20 be downloaded from? If you get it from Microshaft it only install on W10