DIY eGPU experiences

Hi Nando,

On the CUDA calculation front..

I'm pretty much decided on giving a try to this external card thing and planning to get a PE4L with Geforce 470 or 480, but been worried about last reports here stating high-end nvidias fry the adapter.. do you think this could be more related to low quality PSU's than the card itself?

And regarding the choice of PE4L..is it an easy mod to plug the 16x card on the adapter itself or should I go for the PE4H version. (won't be using the extra bandwidth config. only expresscard, x1 connection)

Thanks in advance

 

Ok some clarification is needed here. I've only tested Palit Geforce GTX 465 double fan GPUs. This is a non-standard Fermi board model so Palit could have reconfigured the card to draw as much juice as the PCIe gives. Here are my observations - I tested this card with 3 different power supply setups:

1. 400W dual rail PSU feeding both the PE4H (molex) and the two PCI 6 pin plugs on the GPU
2. 90W notebook adapter plugged to the PE4H + 400W PSU feeding the PCI connectors (6 pins)
3. 550W single rail PSU feeding everything - this type of PSU is likely to have its OCP protection disabled

Bear in mind that my Radeon HD5750 works perfectly with all three but it's only rated at 110W max, not 240-250W like the GTX 465. In case #1 with the GTX 465, I began experiencing instability (i.e. BSOD when playing or running benchmarks) after 2-3 hours of testing. The card was not overheating so it was probably being starved for power so I switch my setup to #2. After a couple of hours of running #2, it fried the DC jack on the PE4H most likely for drawing too much power (see here). That card was eventually found to be damaged and returned. The replacement card was connected with setup #3 to ensure it was no longer starved for power. The result was a burned out PE4H after 15 mins.

My conclusion is that the Palit Geforce GTX 465 is not adequate for a DIY Vidock environment because it draws far too much power from the PCIe interface. This occurs despite the two additional PCI power connectors on the GPU board and implies that the Palit design is not respecting PCIe standards. I can't make assumptions on the whole NVidia GTX 4xx range since there are a couple of people here using GTX 465 (eVGA) and 480 (Gainward). It could well be just a problem with the Palit card. You would have to ask SonicBoom and JohnnyEM for more details to ensure that they are not experiencing similar problems either.

Good idea. I'll pass this info to hwtools.net so that they can take it in consideration for further design revisions.

 

Hey guys, I got my 8800 GT working with my HP dv5 1002nr (RS780)

Fixed video card(baking in oven) ~ irrelevant to vidock

Benchmark
Devil May Cry 4 Posted

Edit
Well played some video games and I have noted the following FPS
Heroes of Newerth -at 1920x1080 everything high, I get around 20-30 fps, usually around 25.
Left for dead 1/2 - 1920x1080 maxed, around 40 fps
Team Fortress 2 - 1920x1080 maxed, around 35 fps
Bad Company 2 - Well I dont know how to get fps, but it seems choppy, not sure though, had it as low as 1024x768 All High, doesnt seem to help FPS, probably my CPU is bottleneck
Just Cause 2 - Running everything medium at 1280x720 very playable
Medal of Honor MP Beta(2010) - Having similar issues like Bad Company 2, probably due to same engine.

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Im thinking of reapplying thermal paste because the card is running kind of hot ~ 72 C. This card was my friends who said it broke, I tested it and it was indeed broken with Green lines appearing, nothing was working properly. Did an oven bake fix that I found online, and surprisingly it worked. Hopefully new paste will bring temperatures down and then bring FPS up. Will post future results later

 

Hello Nando,
I updated my first post (RE benchmark included)
I wanna confirm that You has right about too long mini hdmi cabel...
now with 2 meter all is perfect
I'm very happy with my setup now - games in 1050p on 46' looks awesome.

many thanks for all your help

cheers

 

@ithildin,

With my GTX 465, i'm using a 600 Watt power supply with the 2 addtional 6-pin power connectors. The product sheet for the GTX 465 recommends a minimum of 550 watt power supply with +12 volt current rating of 38 amps.

My 600 watt power supply has a +12 volt current rating of 37 amps. Close enough. My GTX 465 is completely stable. After over 4 hours of continuous use and benchmarking, not a single BSOD, freeze or lockup to report.

 

The specs on my current PSU are quite similar to those (550W 12V max 36A). Still, PSU recommendations are made with a whole PC power requirements in mind, not just the GPU. It might be that the Palit uses up even more juice for the extra cooling fan but it's still no reason to pull the extra power through the PCI connector and fry the PE4H in the process.

 

Thank you for posting your results. yuutsumi's RM75+HD5770 results a good one for you to compare against. dmcv4 dx9 results sees the texture-heavy scene4 performance get 65.7fps versus your 34.8. So could consider a newer video card for better performance.

Which card? We've seen that newer Nvidia GT4xx cards perform better in DX10 but worse in DX9 and cost twice as much as a HD5750/5770. Would need a US$330 GTX470 to get a US$150 HD5770's DX9 performance along with the faster DX10 performance.

Optimized ATI drivers for good DX10 performance with a HD57xx would make it the best good-bang-per-buck choice. A request has been made to killersneak, creator of of Enzyme drivers, who replied (thanks ithildin):

The requested post by killersneak has been posted on the cell-system's forum here.

 

Dunno if there are other x201 figeres out, but my x201 looks the same as the 201s



What does this mean in term of performance? I am waiting for the GTX460 paired with a seasonic S12II psu

 

X201 has:

port2=another mPCIe slot (according to ashura's comment).
port4=expresscard
port5=wifi

If you can find a turbo memory slot, which was port3 on a X200 AND you could fit a PM3N into it with a cable attached, then could do a x2 1.0 link using p3+4 significantly better performance during heavy rendering scenes. As it stands now, you'd be using expresscard slot port4 only.

What we don't know as yet is whether series-5 chipsets are running x1 1.0 crippled links and if so, if the x1E tweak applies. If you wanted to test that theory then suggest purchase a PM3N and test your setup using the wifi port5 running in x2 mode.

JohnnyEM's GTX465@x1/PM55 dmcv4.scene4 results match ithildin's GTX465@x1E/ICH8M results so maybe Intel have corrected the crippling?

I'd also suggest you obtain a PNY or Point-Of-View GTX465 which can be bios-flashed to be a GTX470. That would give you DX9 performance approx on par with a HD57xx series but with it's superior DX10 performance, at just under twice the cost of a HD5750/5770.

 

Hey nando

Is it possible to X2 link since i got one free mpcie and expressport, i think i could fit the mini hdmi cable into the laptop and out from the expresscard and could do a nice X2 link without opening the back cover

 

Thanks for the information. I looked at the post by the person with the T61 and mine is similar. I have Intel ICH8M and Everest shows:

PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1: Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #2: In Use @ x1 (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945AGB Network Adapter)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #3: Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #4: Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #5: Empty

Are you saying that if I want to use only my express-card slot and not remove my wifi card from mPCI(?) slot, I should only get PE4L? I am not sure which port turbomemory is since I don't use turbomemory. As I understand, I would need 2 consecutive ports to do x1E and that my video card will have to take up a odd-number port? From what you're saying is that my expresscard slot is on port #4, how to I move it to a odd-number port?

Edit: BTW, I am on Windows 7, can I do a PNP setup without rebooting using bootdisk?

 

Well the PM3N is a bit of a no-go, as I would have to pull of the palmrest and keyboard. Its was more if I could run 1xe.

Flashing the PNY GTX465 is not always possible, you have to be a lucky with the card. But why get a 465 when the 460 is coming out in 1-2 weeks and will be able to be OC´d to about 470 and be based on the newer Fermi 104 architecture. Also it is going to be smaller and cheaper, by cheaper I mean be able to compete with 5770, which I think is great

 

For x2 you need port1+2 or port3+4 or port5+6. Your wifi is port1, your expresscard slot is 4 or 5. So can't do x2. We can't reassign ports either. If your expresscard slot is port5, then maybe can do the x1E tweak. Not sure yet if that tweak applies to series-5 chipsets used in i-core systems.

port4 = expresscard = Intel crippled x1 1.0
port2 = wifi = Intel crippled x1 1.0

If the turbo memory slot is port3, then could use it either to do x1E, where you'd lose concurrent wifi use OR could combine it with expresscard port4 to do a x2 link. If you don't want to do a x2 link then a cheaper PE4L will do the job.

jam7000's T61 with 3GB was PNP if the DIY ViDock was powered on *after* bios bootup, without requiring the DIY ViDock Setup bootdisk even.

GTX460 (not GTX465) could be the best-bang-per-buck DIY ViDock video card?

Thanks for the heads up. If by cheaper it's in the US$150-US$200 range, can be OC'ed to GTX470 levels where it would offer faster DX10 performance than a HD5770 yet similar DX9 performance, then the GTX460 would be the best-bang-per-buck DIY VIDock solution.

 

So nando , if the HM55 chipset pcie is running at crippled 1.0 x1 , and if we tweak it , the peformance will be more than 50 percent?

1.0 X1= 50 percent
1.0 x1E= 70 percent?
1.0 x2= 80 percent

 

For real life difference, see the x2/x1E/x1 DV2000 benchmarks. x1E is a nice single-cable compromise if your system supports it while waiting for expresscard 2.0 to be released.

 

I'm curious, and am thinking about doing something similar, so I;m interested to hear how this goes for you.

 

I too am curious. The R700 is probably the best engineered 13" portable unit that is still affordable atm. It's like a newer Lenovo X301.

To see if can do x2, go to a retailer selling a R700, plug in an e-sata card and grab the Everest->Motherboard->Chipset->North/Southbridge screenshot. We need to see if the wifi+expresscard slot are port1+2 OR port3+4 OR port5+6 or port7+8. Also need a photo to see how accessible the wifi slot is to host a PM3N and mini hdmi cable.

There could be another way of doing x2. The R700 dock has 2xUSB 3.0 ports. To be true to USB 3.0 spec of 5.0GBps would mean they'd be linking back to 2x 2.5Gbps pci-e I/O ports in the same way that x2 for a DIY ViDock is required. So it's likely x2 may also be possible by hacking the docking station.

Now if Toshiba could be convinced to make a dock providing a x2 pci-e slot instead of USB 3.0

 

I noticed that you were on that thread as well, and some people said that they were going to order it. The issue is that the buyers from that thread were getting the R705 from Best Buy, which has the WiDi instead of the Expresscard.

 

Instead of reading 97 pages, there still is no solution to drive the external graphics back into the lappys lcd screen.

 

From first post. 4-27-10 Internal LCD-only setup.

@ithildin

Discovered today that pci-e 2.0 x16 slot requires up to 150W of power here. This would explain the cooked PE4H driven via the DC jack. Now just need verification that the PE4H can deliver 150W to the slot via the floppy molex connector. I doubt that is the case as for pci-e need a 8-pin plug to deliver 150W. A 4-pin plug is good for 75W only. Hmm.. might need a PE4H redesign for pci-e 2.0 GTX4xxx cards.

 

Thank you nando, im confused though, you intially need a external display?

 

No. Can do it all using just the internal LCD. Do however require a DVI-dummy plug to trick the desktop video card into believing a monitor is attached. Then it's just a matter of starting your program on the invisible 'primary display' then move it to the secondary (internal). That requires window management software like Actual Window Manager or Ultramon as discussed here.

This makes it technically feasible to carry around say a compact 12V/80W HD5750 with you for gaming.

 

Ok thanks, this has really gotten somewhere. Btw does that decrease fps? what are the cons and pros ?

 

Catalyst 10.6 supports 36-bit PCI allocation - a big fix for DIY ViDock users

Just tried Catalyst 10.6 via the Enzyme 1.4 beta drivers. No noticable performance improvement as may otherwise be suggested here.

ATI have however fixed their drivers. On a 4GB T6600 Inspiron 1440 using Win7/32-bit, Catalyst 10.3 would allocate the HD5750 OK to 36-bit space so there was no error 12, would see the monitor attached but could never activate the monitor. This workaround was to do PCI reallocation via DIY ViDock Setup 1.x.

That is no longer required. ATI's fix means the HD5750 is allocated to PAE space (36-bit) AND works. See attached photo of the LCD being drive by the HD5750. This is a pretty significant fix for DIY ViDock purposes. I haven't tested Win7/64, but I would assume the same fix has been applied.

What does this mean?

It means any recent notebook with a 64-bit CPU/chipset will no longer have PCI allocation issues running Win7 since the ATI card supports and can be allocated to 64-bit space. This makes it a PNP solution.

Testing

Works: PM45+4500MHD Inspiron 1440 works.
Doesnt' work: 965PM+x3100 HP 2510P and 965PM+9800M GTS XPS M1730 here.

 

Well here is what i think as to why.

you work at a job that requires you to have a laptop and travel a lot, or just need one to take back and forth to the office. or maybe you just like having a laptop.

Well you like to game also and the laptop just is not the game demon that you would like to have.

You COULD have a desktop and monitor and mouse/keboard, speakers that would really kick some butt.
But.

Some folks would prefer to have a Portable computer that they can take around and get good battery life out of and have all there work/games on it and when they get the time to "DOCK" it to the Video card and Monitor and have a cleaner less cluttered work area.

at least thats why i do it.

and also I wanted to do it just because i could

 

Try putting your desktop in your backpack.

 

Nice find on the 10.6 Catalyst. Shame about the lack of better performance with Enzyme 1.4 beta. Let's hope KillerSneak still has some tricks up his sleeve. Perhaps we should host a results topic on Cell-Systems | modular system enhancement to keep track of initial performance and improvements/lack of on subsequent betas? I will start collecting results as soon as my replacement PE4H arrives, which should be pretty soon. I purchased a used PE4H 1.0 from trailro. In the meantime, I filled in HWtools on my experience with the GTX 465 and I'm sending them my busted PE4H for analysis. In turn, they're sending me a PE4H 2.0 for my troubles

 

Congratulations on the PE4H 2.0. Did you want to do further tests with a GTX460 when it's released in the next week or two? It's supposedly going to be a ~US$200-$250 card.

I'm pretty sure your PE4H got fried because the GTX465 is a pci-e 2.0 card. The pci-e 2.0 spec can draw up to 150W from a slot as explained here. hwtools' PE4L/PE4H is only designed to draw 75W from a slot based on having only the single 4-pin floppy molex connector. If you attached the DC jack AND the floppy molex then it could have had 150W available, but that would have been overdriving the board, likely causing welding of tracks. hwtools' would need two floppy molex connectors for 150W.

I've alerted them of the problem and hope they redesign the board to allow 150W cards to be used. Likely folks with other GTX4xx units without such problems have cards designed to draw most of their power via the pci-e connectors, giving pci-e 1.1 slot backward compatibility.

2.0 has better features for the same price. Eg: it allows you to connect a desktop video card externally to a desktop machine using 4 mini HDMI cables and a H4PA OR to your notebook. Nice way of time sharing a card.

 

Hey, I was just wondering on my current setup (8800GT) why my Notebook LCD monitor does not work? I would like to have both the 8800GT on external monitor and the Notebook monitor on so it would be easier to multitask. Any ideas?

 

I really wanna do this, but i was wondering, i have a ExpressCard/54 slot on my laptop, i also have a spare link inside the laptop where the mini wifi adapter goes, there are two slots.

Would i be able to do it? and what would i need?

 

please post info here.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...18851-diy-vidock-experiences.html#post5324240

you will be able to get all the info you need.

 

Still waiting for the PE4H to ship...

What is this new x2E thing I've been hearing about?

 

I really wanna do this, but i was wondering, i have a ExpressCard/54 slot on my laptop, i also have a spare link inside the laptop where the mini wifi adapter goes, there are two slots.

Would i be able to do it? and what would i need?

 

Cheers! Sure, I'll look into it once they come out.

That makes sense. I did not connect both the molex to the 550W PSU and the the notebook adapter to the DC jack. Unless there is a current limiter on the PE4H (which there shouldn't be since hwtools.net removed the fuse), the GPU could very well have drawn 150W through the PE4H which the 550W PSU could supply (single rail, 12V 36A max, meaning 432W on tap) and burned it.

BTW, the replacement PE4H 1.0 has arrived and is up and running. I'll get started on benchmarking the Enzyme beta drivers.

 

Boot with the DIY ViDock switched off so your bios leaves the internal gpu and LCD as the primary adapter. Once in Win7 sleep system, poweron DIY ViDock, resume and test. If get error 12: cannot allocate resources against the 8800GT then use DIY ViDock Setup 1.x.

JamesBond007's benchmarking found he got an extra 15% performance by using x4 mode, using only lane1+lane2 (x2E mode). That can only apply to a port1+2 x2 setup.

Refer to Getting Started section on first post.

Great. I did runs dmcv4 using DX9 and DX10 in x1E and found no performance improvements. Let's see if you have any better results.

 

What exactly does error 12 mean?
Basically I followed your instructions and neither my external monitor nor my laptop monitor worked.
When I use my 8800GT it only uses the external and the laptop monitor is off. Also on the keyboard the caps lock and the numberpad lights are blinking (never seen that before until I used vidock)
When I used sleep and then turned on viDock then the lights turn on again, the internal monitor does not turn on, and the external monitor is not working either.

So.. any more ideas?

 

Sleep = standby the system. That is different to hibernating the system. The latter does a bios bootup, the former does not. Try that as well as booting up with DIY ViDock switched off, hit F8 quickly to bring up the bootup menu, turn on DIY ViDOck, then do a normal boot.

 

Hi!

I still owe you with my benchmarks, so here you are:

My config is:
Acer Extensa T5750 2.0 Ghz
2 GB RAM
Intel x3100
PE4L + Sapphire HD4870 1 GB @x1

3DBenchmark: 7135

DMC4 DX9, 1280x800, Maxed out

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DMC4 DX9, 1280x800, Only High details

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RE5 DX9, 1280x800

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This result I don't really understand. I can play ME2 1440x900 max settings, and Crysis 1440x900 high setting without any problem, but somehow RE5 sucks. Good thing I don't want to play with it anyway.

I will try x1E sometime when I understand how to do it even on no-brainer way.

My friend has exactly the same laptop and he already ordered HD 5770 1 GB, so we will post that benchmark as well to compare.

Cheers!

 

I bought a 12V - 8A (96W) power supply in order to attempt this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...51-diy-vidock-experiences-31.html#post5964738

However my PE4L (v1.4c) does not seem to work with the DC jack on it Here is some scenarios:

1.a ATX power supply connected to PE4L with the floppy-power-cable = both LEDs light up on the board.

1.b 12V - 8A power supply connected to PE4L with the DC jack = no LEDs light up

2.a ATX power supply connected to PE4L with the floppy-power-cable & ATX power supply connected to Sapphire HD5750 via. molex-to-6-pin-converter = both LEDs light up on the board & the HD5750s fan runs at full speed

2.b 12V - 8A power supply connected to PE4L with the DC jack & HD5750 connected to PE4L with 6-pin converter, molex gender change & molex to floppy-power-cable-converter = no LEDs light up on the PE4L & the HD5750s fan runs at lowest possible speed

I have tried moving the jumpers around which makes no difference at all. I have measured the voltage to 12V different places from the 12V adapter all the way to the 6-pin connected to the HD5750. The voltage seems correct but nothing happens. It would seem that my PE4L have a problem being powered from the DC jack on it

 

Help!!!!
I have been trying to get my Hp DV4 1120us to work with this DIY VIDOCK.
I got it all connected right but when i hook it up my system doesnt even detect the graphics card. I am using the powercolor 5750. Since i couldnt get it to detect my setup i tried making that bootdisk. Well i got it going and i got the "devcon" files right, but after a prompt it says it is checking my system and then it nothing happens, it jsut stays on that screen. Maybe i need to get the specific .bat file to load it. i was just going off of the ones that were there becasue i do not know how to creat my own.....
can anybody who has got this working for thier DV4 please tell me what to do and how they got it working.

 

Looking at the PE4L 1.4c schematic, the only difference b/w powering via the floppy molex and the DC jack is there is a 5V input supplied when using the floppy molex. That 5V input acts as a switch to *not* use the 3.3V supplied by the expresscard slot, which then means JP3 should be closed. With JP3 closed the 5V input goes via a voltage regulator to provide 3.3V

Since you are using the DC jack it doesn't provide 5V input. So JP3 should be open and most importantly JP4 must be closed. With JP4 closed the expresscard provides the required 3.3V. LED D1 should be on.

Ensure the HD5750 is shown by Device Manager or in Everest->Motherboard->Chipset->Southbridge. If not then check your power to the card and your PE4L/PE4H. Ensure the floppy molex connector on the PE4L/PE4H is connected to your PSU and your HD5750's pci-e power plug is connected to your PSU. If the card is still not being detected in Windows suggest try using another notebook as the expresscard slot itself might have problems. Once the card is detected DIY ViDock Setup can be used to overcome any error 12 you might have against the HD5750 in Device Manager, by booting to the Setup (DOS prompt) and typing:

Code:

compact pciend 100000000  import \core\devcon.txt makebatch %DRV%:\core\pci.bat
call %DRV%:\core\pci.bat
call grub4dos w7

 

Hey I tried both methods, of booting without DIY vidock, then going into bios, plugging it in then trying again, and also tried hibernating then plugging in vidock and neither work.

When I hibernate the system, when I try to boot back it shows resuming windows on the External Monitor, however it fails to load (does not show an error) and then states that system resume has failed and has options to delete information and system startup or try to resume.

Any ideas? It could be ERROR CODE 12 but im not sure because it doesnt state anything, just reloops during resume process and says system resume has failed.

 

1. Bootup into Win7 without DIY ViDock attached.
2. Standby the system. This is NOT a hibernate.
3. Powerup DIY ViDock.
4. Resume the system, which will be virtually instantaneous.

If this doesn't work, then add a step 0 where you use DIY ViDock Setup 1.x to configure the PCI Space *before* booting into Win7.

In all instances you need to powerup the DIY ViDock after bios boot to ensure it's the secondary adapter and the internal gpu is the primary.

FYI: This thread got 44,000 hits this month thanks to the Engadget exposure.

 

Excuse me for not being well knowledgeable on this stuff, as I had discovered this forum, and thread, about a few months ago, but never got around to fully reading it.

Now, I mostly play but a few games (TES, Valve Games, and many older, less GPU intensive games), but my x3100, for all it's worth, is absolute crap. Now, I've seen $400 laptops that can handle games better than my then-$600 laptop (Now worth $400, like many of those much better laptops): It's an Inspiron 1525, with XP, though I suppose that when I get a new hard drive, I'll get Windows 7 32-bit.

All I want to know is, what's the best GPU (I have no preference, and from what I've read on here, ATI seems to be the best for DIY Vidock gaming, so yeah!) for my needs (3GB Ram, mebbe I can afford more ram later, but just saying), and is there a cheap solution to hooking the GPU up to my laptop?

I'm aiming for an under $400, possibly under $300 even, plan. GPU, connections and possibly even ATX power supply (Though I bet that I can probably pull one out of an old computer, maybe?)

Also: The 1525 has an Expresscard/54 slot. Does this mean I can't use the EC2C? Because I had this dilemma one time where I had to buy a wireless card for my relatives laptop, and the card didn't fit in either mine or theirs, however, I have a friend with a much older laptop which actually did work with it, as well as a 54 by the looks of it (As in, it had two ports in parallel).

Also, I plan on turning this laptop into a makeshift desktop computer, so I doubt that any of the cons of this project will bug me.

Though, uh, maybe I can figure out how to have the computer turn off the main monitor and go to the external one, automatically in boot up?

 

Still no dice Have anyone managed to get the PE4L v1.4c working with a 12V adaptor? Btw, I run with a PM3N not the expresscard-thingy, does that make a difference?

 

Getting Started section on first post a good place to begin. You could do a US$190 HD5670 or a US$250 HD5770 setup, the latter offering great bang-per-buck. Worth checking if you could do x1E or x2 link by evaluating your pci-e port layout in Everest. x2 requiring an additional US$62 in parts. EC2C is 34mm wide, which works in 54mm slots. The ability to use the external LCD as primary from the bootup process is dependent on your bios.

OK.. I see now. You are hotplugging the PM3N to overcome the whitelisting on your X61. PM3N schematic tells us you must short TP5 (apply a blob of solder) to force the 3.3V to your PE4L. I'd suggest try that. If you measure 0V at JP4 with it closed, then you know that is the problem. It should be 3.3V for a working setup.

 

Well guys I regret (not really) to inform you that me and my wife decided to get a full fledged desktop for gaming and work instead of a DYI ViDock which would force us to buy another laptop/desktop within one year.

It's a bit sad because I'm sort of a DYI guy myself, but her 6-year-old laptop is really starting to handicap her work, and we can't have that.

 

Thanks a ton! It works perfectly now

 

Can anyone direct me to the direct me to the correct Ac adapter for the PE4H?? I got one mentioned but it was too small, maybe was for one of the other boards... (a link to an amazon product page would be awesome!!!!)

 

*running a radeon hd5670 with it. Using an atx power supply for now, but it really takes up space.