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Hi Mayklic, i turned the GMA hd card back on but it hasnt sorted the problem.

To break things down :

when i removed the express card slot from my laptop the laptop screen is in use and the GMA HD graphics are under " display" in the device manager". Also the nvidia control panel is no longer available when right clicking the desktop. Then when i connect the express card slot and turn the psu on the laptop doesnt pick up the gtx460. The fan on the gtx460 spins up really fast aswell. Its only when i restart the laptop that the gtx460 is utlized and i view my desktop from my external hdtv. I can also manipulate the nvidia control panel when using my hdtv.

Hope that makes sense .

 

You did the right thing on first setup by allowing windows 7 do everything.

i tried to mimic your problem but can't because my psu stayed on.

your problem is with the stress the video card is taking.

Windows Experience Index will trying to stress your computer to get accurate measures. I know when I stress my vidock over its limit, Everything shuts down. WEI will certainly stress it but gives error if there's possible shut down. For games they tend to visually say "you cant run me." Overlyclocked my video card without knowing the limit shuts it down.

can you show what hardware you're using like did you include a SWEX switch or used paper clip?

The questions below could possible have nothing to do with your card being stressed. I would like to know anyways.

i am guessing when you turn on your computer with vidock connect, the boot is slow?

do you always connect vidock then power on the vidock? should be turn on vidock then connect EC card.

What driver are you using? the stable 266.58, beta 270.51, any of them have Optimus?

 

Yes awesome. you have pci-e 2.0 x1 which is nice. Now you need a PC card or mPCIe, which ever you are using, to plug in and see which slot it takes. If it takes and windows reads the card as what it suppose to be, there's nothing else to worry about. With empty slots, i believe you dont even need to mess with setup 1.x unless Nando says you can achieve 4x.

 

Hey, i managed to get modern warfare 2 to run for a good 20 minutes without crashing. I removed the jumper from the PE4H (PCIe passive adapter Ver2.4) x1 and it seems to have helped.

Just incase i've been unclear i havent got a vidock station its one of these i used :

PE4H (PCIe passive adapter Ver2.4) x1 (uses a swex)
PE4H (PCIe passive adapter ver2.4)

The game is running quite good but the fps arent great.

The driver im using was just the latest driver on the nvidia website - 266.58 WHQL.

Thanks again.

 

It sounds to me like your PSU is too weak. To test it out, use msi afterburner to lower your voltage and clocks. Try to go as low as possible. You should be able to halve your power draw by doing this. If everything works fine or the problem isn't as bad, then your problem is the PSU. If you still have the same problem then I doubt it's the PSU, but it still might be.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, i did consider this earlier today. The psu im using was previously used in a watercooled system and ran 8 120mm fans, a nzxt fan controller, 500gb hd, dvd writer and 2 pumps flawlessy and never generated any great amount of heat. Ive also checked the psu under load with a multimeter and under load the 3.3v/5v/12v were all within acceptable parameters.

As far as i can see now though, its now running after removing the jumper. What i was looking to do next if my laptop allows me is to bump up from x1 to x2. Could you advise how this is done?

thanks

 

if you cant bump 1x to 2x, add optimus to the driver to have both the vidock and integrated gpu working together.

 

Im not sure if i can or can't bump up to x2 or more as this is something i have never tried before. Do you know how it is done? Also where do i get optimus from?

Thankyou for your time.

 

nando is the expert on setup 1.x. as for the optimus driver.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/418851-diy-vidock-experiences-121.html#post6542661

second post of the page. the post will explain everything.

 

I went ahead and did everything you said. I cleaned the vent. It was really bad like you would have to clean lent tray from dryer after 3 loads of clothes to dry. The old thermal paste has been replaced with arctic silver five.

on idle, the cpu gets as low as 54 degrees C, On load(counter strike with 60 players), it gets to 79 degrees celcius and holds for 30 minutes.

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58.6 FPS OMG 4.6x improvement from 12.1. I love you for suggesting to clean computer yearly.

Taking the laptop apart was really a hassle but worth the extra fps.

 

Moved to Setup 1.x main page.

 

Good news for futur vidock!

Intel Ivy Bridge chipset, that will come next year, will support thunderbolt ''natively''.

Intel to support USB 3.0 alongside Thunderbolt, coming with Ivy Bridge in 2012 -- Engadget

If HWtools can build a nice thunderbolt adapter, we could do some nice graphic perf.

Also : http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/intel-thunderbolt-dev-kits-coming-this-quarter-hopefully-usheri/

 

Well I went all out to try to break 11k 3dmark06 and got the following:



1% higher fsb/pci-e makes the pci-e unstable and slower due to the needed error correction. OCing the 460 does practically nothing. Raising CPU multi to 11.5 would require an overvolt. If only optimus worked with an internal NVIDIA card

 

Hello guys I need help.
I have all the correct materials but nothing is happening.
I have a fujitsu t6500 64 bit 4g ram.

 

It shows error 12 and I tried the mehod you gave but I do not know if I am doing it correctly, but I did my best to follow it and the confusing thing to me was the video hd sound thing. I did not know which video card sound but the sound I only disabled was the sound of the comp.

 

I have an Acer Aspire 8930g and it seems that it could work with a x2 1.0 link.

The PCIe port config is as follows:

PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1 In Use @ x1 (Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller)

PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #2 Empty

PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #4 In Use @ x1 (Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN)

PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #5 Empty

I moved the internal mPCIe card and it showed up as:
"PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #3 In Use @ x1 (Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN)".

Port 5 is the internal cardreader and I suppose that port 2 is the expresscard slot but I cannot confirm since I don't have a card to try out with. I guess this means that Acer Asprice 8930g should be able to do a x2 1.0 link with the two internal mPCIe ports, as they are on port 3 and 4.

Also to add, Aspire 8930g has the PM45 chipset so it doesn't have any integrated graphics which I suppose means it can't use the Optimus option. Just removed my MXM-card, just to confirm that there was no integrated grapchics, and booted up but no picture showed up on either internal or external monitor.

/Sam

 

Out of curiosity, how does this compare to if I was using the card in a PC?
Will I get roughly the same performance?

 

depending if you are using the x1link or x2link it is close to the same as if it was in a desktop. Earlier in the forum there is a better answer. Right now I am trying to use this with my laptop, but so far it is not working for me because of that code 12 error and I tried the setup 1.x and it gives me problems like cannot find grdlr when I boot in diy vidock.

 

mine doenst work. gpu-z says 0mb of vram
why?

 

I got this DIYdock working yesterday on the first try using the suspend/resume trick (worked for many hours till I shutdown to go to bed), and today, on a fresh reboot, it no longer works! I was even going to take pictures to post here. Assistance appreciated.

Laptop" HP HDX18T C2Q 6GB RAM Nvidia 9600M GT
DIY Dock: PE4L v1.5a, set to 0sec delay. ATX power supply 450w.
External card: Nvidia 9600 GT 512MB RAM.
Method tried and used: suspend Windows 7 64bit, turn on and stick EC in, and resume trick.

I've tested the following to verify that they work:
Monitor, works on my desktop.
Mini HDMI cable, have 2 of them, results are the same.
External vid card 9600 GT, works on my desktop fine.

Only things I haven't tested are:
My ATX power supply, it's 3 years old, but used for about 2 months. Enermax Modu82+ 80% efficiency, 450watts.
The PE4L itself, since I only have one of these.

I have also tried using my other vid card which is a Nvidia 8600GTS, same result.


I don't get any error messages. What happens is that when I connect the EC and let the laptop come out of suspend mode(sleep), I hear the 2 low beeps of Windows detecting my express card connection, laptop screen goes off, proceeded by 2 lower beeps of windows disconnecting something , and then again 2 lower beeps of Windows disconnecting something again. [Before the screen shuts off, I have managed to see under device manager>display adapter that both my laptop and external cards are listed]

If I wait long enough, nothing happens usually. And sometimes i get 2 beeps of windows connecting to hardware, but my screen is still off. Eventually I have to force a shutdown. I've done this a dozen times, and only 1 time I saw a BSOD relating to Nvidia driver.

I've tried uninstalling my laptop vid drivers, using device manager/control panel add/remove, and safe mode/Driver Sweeper to clean up Nvidia drivers. Reinstalled the drives manually. Same result.

I have not tried setup 1.x (it looks a little difficult). I have read someone else on here saying they had driver conflict problems with using the same brand internal and external vid card. The solution is to uninstall the vid drivers, followed by installing the external vid drivers manually and then the laptop drivers manually. I tried this, but it doesn't work for me since I cannot get to 'sleep' mode with no laptop drivers in place.

My laptop doesn't allow me to boot up with the DIY dock powered and connected. The BIOS screen sequence will not start. I tried plugging the DIY dock after the BIOS screen, all I get is to the end of the windows boot animation and stops before the desktop login wallpaper.

Any help appreciated, thank you.

 

Well I can do a x1.Opt link. Close or not?

 

Well to save you some time on the sleep/resume, you can just have the card powered off, but plugged in, and simply flip the power supply switch.

Also win7 will conveniently install a random video driver for you on reboot if you remove your driver. When you do install a driver, one driver will run both cards so you are effectively installing on both cards at the same time.

If i were you, I'd try the sleep/resume thing with your internal card disabled. All disabling the card will do is disable the video driver. you'll still be able to see.

Also I hope you can do an x2 setup. I also have a 9600m gt and if i could only do an x1 the external card wouldn't be worth using.

 

Ok, thanks for the tip about plugging/unplugging the EC.

As I understand it, there are two different drivers, one for my laptop (nvidia v267.76) and one for the desktop 9600GT (Nvidia 266.58). When I had the DIY dock working, the driver version for the 2 video cards were different (under device manager) after I successfully installed both 267.76 and 266.58 respectively.

When I let W7 install a generic video driver, I cannot put my laptop on sleep mode, it is greyed out.

When I disable my internal 9600M GT, sleep and hibernate modes are greyed out.

I don't know if I can do a x2 setup, probably won't try.My aim is to drive a dual link DVI monitor (2560x1400) which my laptop can't do on its own. I don't game.

Thanks for your suggestions. Do you think the Nvidia driver v266.58 can load on both internal and external cards?

 

Here's a quick update on my Lenovo X200 mod:

• Completed the case mod for accessing port #3 with a PM3N. I used a dremel tool to drill a hole on the alloy case large enough to pass a miniHDMI cable with a slim (stripped) plug (will post photos)
• Port #3 socket is capable of running my GTX460@x1
• I cannot hotplug the Vidock with a PM3N+PE4H 2.0a on port#3. I can only use it if I boot with it already powered on (which disables the IGP).
  • Closing the PERST# jumper on the PM3N leaves the IGP on but the BIOS disables LCD backlight and mPCIe slots (even with Zender's unwhitelisted BIOS)
  • With IGP on, Setup 1.x does not detect the GTX 460 if I either turn on or hot plug the cable to the PE4H while it's running.
  • Unlike with expresscard, Windows 7 does not detect the GTX 460 after sleep+resume if plugged to PM3N (jumper off).
  • With IGP off I can change port #3 to x2 if I use Setup 1.x with PCI bridge compaction and "iport x2 3 noreset". Hot resetting port #3 causes display to go blank and hangs machine.
  • GTX460@ with port at x2 (noreset) has the same performance as x1
  • Unplugging second lane from expresscard (port #4) while in x2 mode (noreset) has no effect - so it's not actually running at x2 as confirmed by Everest.

There are a number of things that I still need to try but any suggestions on how to get around this problem are very welcome!

 

You can set the port to x2 without actually setting the card to x2, which is a common problem people have with x2 setups. The way most people are doing x2 is rebooting their laptop after they set the port to x2. on the reboot, the card will also be at x2. You will have to redisable your port 4 after the reboot if your bios re-enabled it on you, which is likely, otherwise windows will hang. You can do this with the setup program, or you can have the 460 disabled on reboot and disable the port with bar-edit.

@ exe

As I understand it, there are two different drivers, one for my laptop (nvidia v267.76) and one for the desktop 9600GT (Nvidia 266.58). When I had the DIY dock working, the driver version for the 2 video cards were different (under device manager) after I successfully installed both 267.76 and 266.58 respectively.

That is definitely a problem. It sounds like your system is trying to run 2 nvidia drivers at once. Nvidia has not allowed this since before the 200 driver series where 2 drivers used to be required to run SLI. You should only have 1 driver installed and running at the one time no matter how many Nvidia cards you have.

 

I don't quite follow you. Are you telling me that one Nvidia driver is all that is required to run both my internal 9600M GT as well as my external 9600GT? As far as I know, there is one set of drivers for Nvidia mobile GPU, and a different one for desktop GPU. You're telling me this is not the case? Then what driver and version should I be installing (link please)?

I have tried to manually install the desktop version of 266.58 to my mobile GPU, and it was not accepted. I tried to run the setup.exe to auto install, and again Nvidia tells me it's not compatible and won't install on my mobile GPU.

 

Yesterday I finally got it to worked. I used the setup 1.x, but before that apparently it did not work correctly. After many hours of trying to work it out it worked and just reporting that it works with a
Fujitsu t6500
PE4H x1link with xfx ati radeon hd 5850.
Next will be x2link but hopefully it will be simpler now to hook it up.

Anyone that did the x2 link was it similar in setup like the x1link?


when I mean setup I mean setup as in the work put into setup 1.x?

 

Yup you only want 1 driver for both cards even though 1 is mobile. There are no difference between mobile and desktop drivers except for the .inf file which says which cards the driver can install on. Nando4 posted a modified .inf for the 270.51 verde driver. I do not know if he also included the 9600m gt. If he did not, you can use the "mobility .net" tool to add support for all nvidia cards to a .inf file. You also could probably install a mobile driver for the 9600m, and it should also work for the desktop 9600.

 

I would like to share my experience with ATI video cards and diy vidock. I have been plagued by the "ERROR 12" problem, sometimes I would get it to work right away, sometimes I would spend 1/2 a day on it.

I have tried most of the things described in the 1st post under "ERROR 12", but it was all a waste of time for me.

My solution was installing DNA-AMD GFX 11.2.1. Both 32 and 64 tested. I just plug in the express card, turn on the laptop and the video card will be detected when windows boots up. With this driver am able to have both the internal monitor + the external monitor work at the same time. 100% works every time.

Hope this helps the Ati crowd.

 

where in the forum it says how to do x2 link? I cannot find it in google or somewhere in the faq. I would like to know where the pm3n with the pciemm100 would go so i can have a x2 link or how to tutorial pretty much.

 

First post, FAQ #5

 

Hi, i have two questions:

i am able to boot into w7 without any errors on the 460 GTX only if i disable my 8600M GT drivers first...

1. is there some way to get both drivers working simultaneously because without the internal drivers the internal gpu becomes very hot.

2. How do i force the 460 GTX to an external screen when it shows no errors. using the shortcut for the external VGA does not seem to work and through the screen resolution screen also nothing can be set. If i load NVidia control panel it says no display is connected to an nvidia display (possibly because i have disabled the internal drivers)

thanx in advance,

nlooije

 

Seems some people have the same problem with windows seven. For the vidock to work the internal gpu has to be turned off.

There seems to be another case. Other people seem to hot plug the device and under the device manager both gpu runs properly with the only thing that vidock is not giving any output. this allows display setting to direct desktop through the vidock port.

If you windows is not detecting vidock while on internal gnu, try put windows in sleep, turn on vidock without ec or mpcie plugged, then plug the EEC or mpcie. Hit button to wake the pc. Wait couple of minutes for windows detect vidock.

 

thx for the reply, hotplugging mPCIE gives me a code 43 error...
I have the Delay disabled, sleep w7, power Vidock, resume, go to device manager and scan for pnp devices, laptop screen flashes black for a couple of seconds, 460 gtx shows up in device manager but with code 43.

do i have to wait till device manager finds the 460 gtx itself?

 

I'm trying to remember back when I installed my 460 gtx drivers for the first time. I have an internal 9600m gt. The problem you are having is that only 1 Nvidia driver can be run at a time, and this driver must run both cards for both to work correctly. I might not remember this right, but I think I uninstalled the 9600m driver, then installed a regular Nvidia driver and everything worked fine. If you end up rebooting after uninstalling the driver, make sure you immediately kill the auto driver install in the task manager. Windows will mess up everything. I do remember doing that, but I don't know if the reboot was necessary.

After you get 1 driver working properly you can update the driver normally without having to worry about anything.

To answer your second question, yes you do need the driver running in order to use the external monitor. If I disable my internal card, the external 460 will work fine unless I reboot with the internal card disabled. On reboot, the Nvidia driver will not start and I can only see the internal LCD. The 460 will still be listed as detected and running in the device manager, but i can't do anything with it.

Also there is absolutely no reason to hotplug the 460 if there are not resource issues on boot. Save yourself the effort and just boot with it.



Getting 2 Nvidia cards working correctly seems to be a common problem. Below I have summarized the key idea:
ONE DRIVER GOOD, 2 DRIVER BAD

 

hi, i was wondering if my laptop can run this sort of setup with a 470
if i just follow the how to would i be fine?
i have a dell studio 1555 laptop with a expresscard 34 slot
cpu - p8600 at 2.40ghz
ram - 4gb
graphics - ati mobility hd 4500/5100

 

Request: C2D Dell Latitude owners with 4GB issues - try a T4xxx or T6xxx CPU instead

As noted here, these systems have TOLUD set to 3.5GB and do not allow 36-bit PCI compaction. The same issue occuring on another MSI system I've been PMed about.

Now the 36-bit PCI IGP or external gpu compaction that I've witnessed does work was on Inspiron 1440 + Studio 15 with a T6xxx 'budget' penryn CPU. I have otherwise been unable to get 36-bit to work on a P8xxx or L9400 'premium' Penryn. Difference being the 'premium' VT-x, TXT, SLFM, IDA, Vpro features + is running 1066Mhz FSB.

So if you have one of these Latitude systems AND have a T42xx or T6xxx 800Mhz FSB Penryn lying around AND are willing to swap it in, that would help identify if something about the CPU itself is causing 36-bit PCI relocation to fail. No amount of changing "nolowmem", "pae", DET in the BCD has helped.

 

Where would Install the pm3n for the x2link? do I have to open all the screws on the back of my laptop to find it or is it in a little section where there are some screws for that particualr part?

 

varies from laptop to laptop. Some have an easy to access compartment, others require work.

 

Lol thx for the summary

I have gone ahead and tried what you suggested. The result is still a code 43 error upon boot. I have tried booting normally, booting through the setup with pci compaction, booting with VD off and hotplugging... all give code 43.

what i have done since the previous post:

1. Install w7 64bit which allowed me to use my other 2gb Ram module as well as use the drivers + modified inf file supplied by nando4 a couple of posts ago. This was done in the hope it would prevent the code 43 error.

2. I uninstalled the 8600m gt drivers and installed the new drivers for both cards as you suggested in your previous post. Unfortunatly, i am not able to stop w7 from installing standard VGA drivers upon boot (it goes too quick), but applying the new drivers afterwards leads to the 8600m gt and 460 gtx showing up in the device manager. See picture below. might this be a problem?

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4613/devicemanager.png

any other ideas on what i am doing wrong?

nlooije

 

Hmm idk why you are getting an error 43. Do you get an error 43 with no driver installed? The only time I ever got error 43 was when messing around with the HDMI cables and trying to do x4, so all I can think of now is checking your cables and expresscard or mini-pcie connector.

 

let us say that I found where to put the pm3n. When I installed it what do I do after in the setup 1.x? Is it like the x1 as in ports and compacion or how would I put port 1 and port 2 to have x2 because in my port 1 has a marvell yukon pcie ethernet thing something like that.

 

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but if your ethernet chip is on port 1 then you can't do x2 with ports 1 and 2. You can do x1 on port 2 or you can do x2 with 3 and 4 if they are both empty.

 

I've got some problems getting my diy vidock working with a dell M1530 (with nvidia 8600M) and ati 4870 as external gfx with 400W PSU. Vidock is connected via expresscard (PCI#5).

I have decreased my ram to 2GB and also installed newest ati and nvidia drivers. Wifi card is removed.

Setup 1.x detects my both cards and lets me do 36-bit compaction to the external gfx (32 bit gives no solutions).

win7 to sleep -> connect the vidock, power it on -> wake up win7 -> bsod in 10 seconds. Same bsod without sleep. Bsod caused by atikmdag.sys.

After removing drivers (also with driver sweeper) win7 detects external gfx without any problems but then turns if off 5 seconds later. Sometimes it works, detecting both cards without any errors and sometimes internal gfx gives error 12.

Furthermore, there hasn't been any sign of activity on my external display (4870>dvi<>hdmi>hp w2207h). Should I disable my internal gfx somehow?

Any advice from M1530 users who've got this working?

My setup 1.x diag files are available here:
devcon.txt: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7219115/vidock/devcon.txt
diag folder zip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7219115/vidock/DIAG.zip

 

Hi,

I have been getting BSODs when hotplugging mPCIe.

1. Boot with VD on, run compaction etc through Setup, unplug mHDMI
2. Boot W7, sleep, plug mHDMI, resume
3. scan for pnp hardware in device manager leads to BSOD

i am not sure but hopefully solving the BSOD will lead to a working VD

any ideas?

 

I am not sure if it is a faulty HDMI as when i disable the 8600m gt drivers, on boot the 460 gtx drivers work without errors (see picture). But i am still not able to output anything to the external display in this configuration since the primary video drivers are disabled. Is there anyway to force the 460 gtx to be the primary video?

also on some posts there is talk of a pci dump of the configured gfx card and loading that in the setup. since nvidia-flash in setup shows that the 460 gtx is unconfigured before compaction, is this something i should do? I am not sure what the reason for this dump is or how to do it, so if any1 could show me how if at all applicable?

Edit: argh booting VD with an MSI notebook worked straight away. indicates that HDMI, gfx card, external display work fine. must then be something i am doing wrong in the settings.

 

port 1 and 2 and 3 are occupied. port 2 is my external graphics card. Does that mean i have to put it on port 5 and port 6? If I do then how would I move my external graphics card port 2 on port 5 and use the port 6 pm3n i am guessing to make it x2?


Looking in setup 1.x it shows me port 1: occupied with something
port 2: ati radeon hd 5850
port 3: occupied with something.
is it possible to switch port3 to port 2 and use port 3 and port 4 at x2 link?

 

YES!!!!! After about upteen hours of reading and trying and confusion..AND big help from Khenglish and Nando, and a shout out to Panzer (read his old post), I finally got my setup to work!

My problem I had already detailed a few pages back. Basically, I can't hook up the DIYDock to my laptop when it is from the off state (won't go to BIOS), nor at the desktop (bsod). I did the sleep/resume trick and upon resume, I get a connection sound (for the DIYDock) and disconnect sound, screen goes off, and another disconnect. I suspect it disconnected both my internal and external cards. I can't see anything to know what is going on.

So the first thing I had to do is to mod the mobile inf file that Nando had modded, to include my 9600GT desktop GPU. That took hours to learn as the instructions here were a little lacking.

After that, I still had no joy. I would get into windows, do sleep/resume and find myself in connect/screen off/2disconnect darkness all over again. I've lost count how many times that was, once I got to read error 21, which Khenglish said is Windows telling me it's going to disconnected my internal screen. Another time my wireless mouse usb dongle gave me BSOD.

Anyhoo, then I read up some of Panzer's post, his laptop is very similar to mine, but his screen didn't back out so he could at least read the error messages. But his suggestion was to just try hot plugging in the DIYDock at various stages of Windows start or at desktop to see what would happen.

Well, I had just removed all my mobile drivers and was reading what he wrote, so I thought, what the heck, just stick the DIYDock in while I'm at this standard windows vga driver mode and see what happens. And lo and behold, windows recognizes the external card and it flashed and actually CAME BACK ON! Windows had automatically installed a nvidia driver external GPU, the internal GPU stayed at vga standard. And from previous failures and being told I need to use one driver, I tried to manually install for the desktop GPU my modded mobile driver, it didn't take. So i remembered I can also run the setup.exe, and that worked. When it was installing, usually windows will warn me 1 time that I am installing a non trusted driver, I click allow, and off we go. But this time, I had that warning twice, which is what you want since it is installing both the internal and external GPU.[ I redid the procedure and only got one install confirmation the second time around] And after which I checked to see that the driver versions were exactly the same!

Rebooted, (I have to unplug my DIYDock otherwise I don't get to BIOS) and got to desktop and voila! Just to pinch myself, I did this twice to replicate success, it finally works!

So my almost last question here would be, how do I avoid this plugging in/out when I reboot? I guess I can try the 7sec switch delay and see how that goes.[This didn't work either, so I have to hotplug when at windows desktop]

HP HDX18T C2Q 6GB RAM 9600M, running
PE4L with 9600GT pushing 2560x1600.









[A final note, the mobility modder program I was recommended to mod desktop GPU driver, it's from circa 2009 and doesn't work with any recent drivers. The drivers will not load.]