Amilo Xi 1554

Gg Ati....

 

For raw power the Quadro 2500M is a better card, but it is far more workstation optised. IF you are not going to be doing any workstation type applications, then that card isn't the best gaming card. It can game, but not as fast the Go 7900 GTX it is based upon. This is due to the fact it lacks some fo the optisations for gaming. The ATI should perform better in games that the Quadro 2500M, but in some applications is may perform a little less fast than a Quadro 2500M.

Alternatively, you may want to consider the XPS M1710, which is practically the same notebook, except it has the Go 7950 GTX, which we is still faster than the Mobility X1900. It is more optimised more gaming.

 

weird thing mrYman. there is no comparison in m90 and xi1554 and a quadro and x1900. is there???

wy u choose m90 though. its bloody expensive and much higher spec. i supose if u are waiting for xi1554 then u cant really go down that road now can u???

 

even i was considering xps1710 but bloody hell

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/p...cs=ukdhs1&a=20137~0~91954&navla=20137~0~91954

ITS DISAPPEARED

 

alrite alrite....no panic.

found it.

weird website though dell has

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/notebooks_best?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs

 

ATi Mobility Radeon X2300.
alrite...a notebook by asus a8jr has this card above and it is i get to know a dx10 card. this a8jr is selling in poland for approx 900£

http://mrach.com.pl/?xT=ASUS,A8JR,A8JR-4P005C,A8JR-4P005C,Notebook

but i jus read another thread which says x2300 is not dx10 while x2100 is.


does all the above make any sense or have i lost a part of puzzle.

also since ati didnt had any launch for x1900 my guess is they jus getting rid of what they have in stock. and preparing to launch their almost ready dx10 series of cards.

sometimes i think why all this strain.....jus go out and buy an xps1710

 

amarjeet, i think that quadra 2500m can perfectly well compete with x1900... x1900 will not be faster than 7950gtx from what i've read thus far, it will be around the speed of 7900gs, and 7900gs is almost the same as 2500m. plus, i don't know from where names x2300 and x2100, but i am very sure these are NOT directx10 cards, and there won't be one for at least a year, because they are not appropriate for notebooks, they get too hot! and they need too much "juice" (electricity)! and if you checkd that page it says that x2300 has ONLY 128 MB of ram, while quadra 2500m and 7950gtx have 512 MB of RAM!

here is some more info on why i'd go with Dell (was a reply to a guy in a RockDirect forum)...


i am considering both Dell m90 and m1710, and did the inquiry with Dell’s Slovenian reseller... the “funny” thing is that the price difference in my country between dell m1710 and m90 is not that big, just $50 more for m90, especially since they don't even offer m1710 with 7950gtx, but just with older 7900gs card... no idea why (waiting on their answer to that). anyway, if the choice is between 2500m and 7900gs card for about same price i’ll go for 2500m. (also note that XCTX Pro with 2500m costs $485 MORE than with 7950gtx card! strange huh?!) ...and i might even start re-using 3D apps (used em in past).

i checked dell.com to compare prices and it’s most puzzling to see that the prices are LOWER here in Slovenia than in USA, otherwise everything is notably more expensive in Slovenia!

Dell m90 costs $3.350 ($2.825 after “rebate” in USA, and $2.910 in Slovenia (wow!)

Dell m1710 with 7900 card costs $3.000 in USA, and $2.860 in Slovenia (double wow!)
("upgrade" to 7950gtx card is $400 in USA, doesn’t seem to be available in Slovenia)


specifications as given to me by Slovenia reseller (to compare i picked same things at dell.com):


Dell Precision M90
=========================
- 17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200) UltraSharp display with non-reflective technology (anti-glare)
- Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2.0 GHz, 4 MB L2 cache, 667 MHz FSB)
- nVidia® Quadro® FX 2500M with 512MB dedicated graphics memory
- 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2x 1024)
- 80GB (7.200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
- Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive with Software
- Intel PROWireless 3945 802.11a/g Dual-band Mini-card
- Dell Wireless 350 BlueTooth™ Internal Card
- 9 Cell Lithium Ion Primary battery (85 WHr) for maximum battery life
- Genuine Windows® XP Professional - with CD
- 3 Year Parts Only Warranty


Dell Inspiron XPS M1710
=========================
- 17" UltraSharp™ WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Wide Screen, True Life™ Display
- Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2.0 GHz, 4 MB L2 cache, 667 MHz FSB)
- nVidia® GeForce™ Go 7900 graphics card 256MB DDR3
- 80GB (7.200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
- Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive with Software
- Intel® ProWireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini PCI Wireless LAN Card
- Bluetooth Card
- 9-cell , 80 Whr Li-Ion primary battery
- Internal 56k Modem (Modem Daughter Card) and GIGA bit LAN on Motherboard
- Genuine Windows® XP Professional - with CD
- 3 Year Parts Only Warranty


...and i was even considering buying a strong desktop and weaker/lighter 15” notebook, but if one takes into account that a desktop LCD monitor with resolution of 1920x1200 has to be at least 23” and it costs over $1.000 then all of a sudden strong desktop PCs are NOT much cheaper (if cheaper at all!) than strong notebooks...

 

all makes sense mrYman. even i am into visual fx post production threefore looking for a quadro2500m. definitely go for it if u aint an avid gamer.

i agree that 2500 loses to x1900 & 7950gtx when it comes to gaming. but i also believe that 2500 is far superior when it comes to visualfx. if u get one then do check out the gelato renderering system. they were optimized and made for quadro but i believe now work with geforce too. quadro in compositing will beat any card in the market though.

i wish i was a slovenian. could get my hands on em quadro 2500m. hmm......theres always next time though. hope the guy upstairs listening.

but i guess dx10 aint so far as a year. coz many forums say it wont take more than a few months. at most april/may for dx10.

 

If there really are 36 pixel shader processors in X1900 as stated on ATI/AMD site, it easily leaves 7900gs behind even if it's clocks were down. 2500m is actually based on a lot more powerful 7900gtx, not 7900gs.

 

thx for correcting me ronkotus, yep 7900gtx & 2500m are the ones alike.
anyway, i doubt that x1900 will outperform 2500m in games...

ahhh, april/may for DX10 card in notebook? can you show me the source
of that information? look at x1900, it was announced in november 2006
and is still not really available in notebooks... will check out "gelato", thx!

from where are you amarjeet?

 

if vista is released by in feb then i don see a reason why 8800 wont be out by may.

am from india. but thankfully in uk doing my ma right now. in uk atleast i can think about buying a good laptop, in india i wont be able to get any new hardware at all.

 

well, the reason why you won't get 8800 card in a notebook, or some other which would support DirectX 10 is that the current technology is NOT suitable for Notebooks, as said, current graphic cards need too much electricity and they would overheat in a small notebook chasis... from all i've read, it might be a very long time before such a card is made for notebooks...

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20061113141458.html

Nvidia “Sampling” DirectX 10 Mobile GPU for Centrino Pro Notebooks.
11/13/2006

 

A question.... Quadro 3500m is based on 7950gtx & I've read that there are
some "hacked" drivers for 7950gtx which can "fool" 3D programs to "think"
that the card is Quadro 3500m... Would this work with, say, 3D Studio MAX
and with nVidia Gelato rendering system?

 

You know, you propably get answers to your questions about Nvidia cards more easily from threads dedicated to them..

 

a point there ronkotus.

but still...i heard about such drivers but never heard someone being successfull with it. even if successfull am sure there is no performance gain from it. i would suggest you to save the time and hassle. you wd be better off buying a quadro and creating some nice stuff in the same time.

 

ronkotus, i asked it here because i know amarjeet is checking this forum and that he knows something about it... and see, his reply was ALL i needed thx amarjeet!

 

This German onlineshop seems to sell best configuration of the Amilo Xi 1554 at 1898 EUR. There's an estimation of 25.1. of them having it in stock. Hopefully we see it supplied more widely at that time..

 

ronkotus, thx for a great link! anyone has experience with that shop? good one?

 

Hi guys, first, I´m from czech republic, so I´m sorry for my english.
This notebook cost now in czech republic 48 868 Kc that is cca 2 272 dolars or 1746 euros all prices are with VAT. It´s good or not?

 

Welcome to Notebookreview,

That is a great price. I think you mean the 240 GB version with 2 GB, 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo and X1900?
If that is so then the price is great. In Holland a new Xi1546 with just 160 GB costs 1600,-Euro's.

Charlie

 

Hi,
this price is realy for madel with t7200, 2GB, X1900,17 wuxga, 2x120GB
http://www.czechcomputer.cz/product.jsp?artno=42434
we also had second, slower model: t5600, 1GB, X1900, 17 wuxga, 2x120GB and this model cost 1569 EUR. http://www.czechcomputer.cz/product.jsp?artno=42792

I want buy notebook. I chose between these two models: FSC Amilo x1554 and Asus F3jm-Ap032: t7200, 2GB, Go7600 512MB, 160GB, 15,4 wxga. I want play games at home and sometimes (1 per a week) transport. Wich one is better for me? I think FSC has better Graphics, display, and HDD, Asus has higher capacity of battery (7200mAh). I dont know how is FSC quality. Has someone experience? What about graphisc and chasis? Thank for answer. Martin.
(Yes, I know, my english is bad )

 

I would definately, without any doubt, go for the Fujitsu Siemens. The X1900 256 MB blows away the Go7600 with 512 MB Turbocache. The Xi 1554 has much more hard drive space, and also the oppurtunity to let it run in RAID 0 or RAID 1. The 17" has a 1920*1200 resolution display (Full HD) so playing games on it will be great.

FSC quality with this notebook is very good. There is no flex with the keyboard, the notebook tough and good build. Check the reviews about the Xi 1546 and Xi 1526 to get an idea about the notebook (case is the same as the Xi 1554).

If I were you, I would pay a little more and go for the T7200 with 2 GB. With 1 GB, the whole system will be slowed down due to the 1 GB bottleneck. The more expensive model also has a 2.0 GHz, 4 MB L2-cache processor, which is also faster then the 1.83 GHz, 2 MB L2-cache processor. At Dell you would pay 150$ more for an upgrade to T7200 and another 200$ for an upgrade to 2 Gb so it is really worth the extra euro's I think.

The difference between 15.4" and 17" is not huge when it comes to transport. As long as you have a good carrying bag a 17" is no problem to carry around with.

Good luck!

Charlie

Review Xi 1526: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3395&review=Fujitsu+Siemens+Amilo+1526

Review Xi 1546: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3062&review=Fujitsu+Siemens

 

any other shop in germany announced selling this amilo 1554 notebook except yamodo.de? at yamodo they say it will be available from 2.2.2007 onwards, with windows vista preinstalled...

 

Hi All,

You can see the cost of ATi Mobility X1900 on

http://www.alienware.com/configurat...syscode=PC-LT-AREA51M5790&subcode=SKU-DEFAULT

It costs 350USD.

I think Alienware is a second notebook brand running this ATI graphics card.

 

Thats what Alienware offers the card at. The price of actually buying one card, will be much more. Ice-Tea used to offer the Mobility X1800 a while back, and that card used to sell for €425, which was alot. That wasn't his fault, it was probably just because the supply was limited and ATI cards weren't all that popular. But, for $350, thats quite a good price, and it offers alot of power.

 

From gaming point: GF 7600 has 8 pixel and 5 vertex shaders. ATi Mob X1900 has 36 pixel and 8 vertex shaders.
Here You can see comparison of cards. Pay attention to 3D Mark 06. Others are obsolete.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

I think those cards are not even comparable. GF 7600 is a middle level performer, when X1900 is ultra high-end gaming monster.. It has not been yet benchmarked (no score in the chart either), but it's supposed to compete against Nvidia's high-end flagship laptop cards Geforce Go 7900/7950 GTX.

 

It should be noted that the 350USD is the price differnce over a 7600 card.

 

And I think that you should also note that these are prices of Alienware, and they are expensive...

Charlie

 

In Gaming forum you have X1900 benchmarks (Xi1554), you may want to check it out but you won't be happy...

 

x1900 isn't x1600. Only FS and Alienware made laptops with x1900, but not Asus

 

hmm...nothing gr8 there. not quite a bang for bucks i had expected...

nowhere near 7950gtx

m90 . . . here i come

 

1554 €1.820 at http://www.snogard.de/?artikelId=NOTFUJAM15542&pp=0103

 

Notebook: FSC Amilo Xi 1554
Price: € 1.749 (tax included)
Specs: 2 GHz CPU, 2G RAM (2x 1GB), 1920x1200, 320GB disk (2x 120GB)
At: T-Online-Shop.de (not some tiny shop...)
Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nfozm

For this price it is in fact a great choice for a powerful notebook!
Even if it's slower than nVidia 7950GTX, it's almsot twice cheaper...

 

Currently there are quite many shops in germany selling the best configuration. It's not too expensive and specs are good so it sure has great performance-price ratio.

 

The new Mobile Catalyst 7.3 still doesn't seem to add support for MR X1900. And there still isn't support for x1700 either which has been in the markets even longer. What's wrong with ATI/AMD..

 

hmm its quite bad that they aren't supporting it...anyway uk based people looking for it you can get it for around £1100 from here what do you reckon is it worth forcing the drivers or jus waiting?

 

ATI isn't handling this properly. They should have got fully supported drivers up to the market by this time. I'm sure there not going to ignore their fastest mobile graphics card, but the notebook has been on the market for a while now, and most people expect proper drivers and utilities.

 

It's just plain horrible customer service.. Of course you can force the drivers but that shouldn't be something the customer is obliged to do if he wants fixes and additions of the latest Catalyst. And we know the forced drivers "work" but they work (fortunately??) as something which is made for X1800. What about real drivers and performance of the X1900.. Owners of X1900 should really give some serious feedback to ATI/AMD.

Still the Xi 1554 has one of the best price-performance ratio. So it's a good purchase for sure, if you are looking for a gaming laptop and don't have "Alienware" budget. Hopefully though, the new buyer has researched a bit and knows about the "driver issue"..

 

I think i will be tempted to send an email with complaints of lack of support for my graphics card...i did send them back one of those feedback responses and did mention the lack of support....but its another case of if they would respond to it and further more what action would they take...still your right it is still the best performance to price ratio...which is nice to know that i got my value for money...

 

No it doesn't but u can modify the inf file(after u previously downloaded the driver from http://www.ati.com/online/mobilecatalyst/index.html <see ATIMCatW.exe and do a search for "http" in it>) .. that's for XP
Still the CCC crashz at windows startup with MOM.EXE err. . Oh.. well, ATI Tray Tool here i come.

 

HI there, I have the 1554 and am on the whole veyr peased with it. One problem though - I've found that it doesn't respond when coming out of sleep/hibernate if I've pulled the plug for a bit whilst it's been shut down. I've done this a ew times where I've been working on something and closed the lid to put it to sleep, pulled the plug and moved the laptop somewhere else plugged it back in and open the lid- it boots up fine but the touchpad is no longer responsive so have to do a complete shut down ad restart. Anyone else see this? any ideas how to fix? Thanks
V

 

HI there, I have the 1554 and am on the whole veyr peased with it. One problem though - I've found that it doesn't respond when coming out of sleep/hibernate if I've pulled the plug for a bit whilst it's been shut down. I've done this a ew times where I've been working on something and closed the lid to put it to sleep, pulled the plug and moved the laptop somewhere else plugged it back in and open the lid- it boots up fine but the touchpad is no longer responsive so have to do a complete shut down ad restart. Anyone else see this? any ideas how to fix? Thanks
V

 

questions to those who already own the 1554 and all other FS laptop with 17-inch screen...are the LCD screen gloss type or the matte or non-glossy type? this is a deal breaker for me because i will be using the laptop for photo editing and the glossy LCD (based on my experience) is not very friendly because it the reflection that the glossy screen is creating when editing the pictures. thanks in advance.

 

I would say they have a glossy screen . I haven't noticed that there is much glare from it, depends what you like I suppose. Actually I would say the 17'' widescreen screen is the machines best feature- I love it!

 

I am sorry if this has been already asked but here it is:
Does this laptop support more memory than 2GB? Fujitsu-Siemens web pages says that 2GB is max. But in the German shop that I bought this laptop they are selling it also with 3GB and 4GB http://www.notebook.de/fujitsu-siemens-amilo-xi1554-intel-core-2-duo-prozessor-t7200-667fsb-p-4370/. I think support for memory depends on motherboard and BIOS? And if 4GB is supported what 2 GB 667 MHz SODIMM units would work with this laptop?

Thanks!

 

No, Amilo Xi series laptops doesn't seem to have support for more than 2GB of ram (meaning 1x2GB module OR 2x1GB modules). Apparently it's because FSC haven't added support for 4GB into the BIOS even though the chipset supports it. Hopefully someday they will.

Some people have tried 4GB without success:
- http://support.fujitsu-siemens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24836
- http://support.fujitsu-siemens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24786

 

I think ATI lies about specifications of Mobility Radeon x1900!
I used program TechPowerUp GPU-Z 0.0.6 and become this:

GPU: M68 ????!!!!! (it should be M59)

Shaders: 12 Pixel / 5 Vertex (DirectX9.0c) ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a F...!!!

This card has Pixel and Vertex Shaders like ATI Mobility RADEON x1700 !!!

ATI Mobility RADEON x1900 should have 36 Pixel and 8 Vertex Shaders....

My notebook is Fujitsu-Siemens Xi1554. Can anyone try this program on Alienware m5790 with x1900?

Has anybody expirience with unlocking pipes on this card? Is it posible somehow? There may be still a potential in this card, if it's not only a big FAKE from ATI or Fujitsu-Siemens..... That's an absolute swindle!

However I didn't buy card with those specs. I want to have 36/8 Shaders!

It should be a case on a court law! And maybe it will be!

 

Maybe you should verify your facts. You can't go to court because you happen to find some tool that does not like your GPU. The x1900 performs very nicely and benchmarks are in line with the 7900GS.