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    680M Low 3DMark 11 score?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by EddieHarris, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. fenryr423

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    eddie id try resetting that AB clock and then putting back up to 854/2200 and see what you get. to me it just looks like one of the boosts got applied
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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    so strange... maybe try nvidia inspector? thats what i use. Ill admit i dont see why it would make a diff
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    Actually your CPU is fine, it's just your GTX680M is outputting a little weaker than some others, however I got my GTX680M pretty early (2012/07/01), was the first batch produced by Clevo. But I'm not sure if different batche makes any differences in performance on hardware level.

    Edit: By the way, what version is your vbios?

    Mine is 80.04.29.00.01 (should show in GPU-Z)
    Board revision: N13E-GTX V1.1 4G (have to flip the card over to see the stickers)
     
    hackness, Aug 31, 2012
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    My M17x having the Intel HD 400 graphics as default is interfering with my 3DMark 11 on the 1st graphics test. I realized looking at the detailed scores as per graphics test, on my 1st gfx test it always gets low fps average and it level on the rest of the test. Looking at 3DMark 11's Adapter option, I have auto and Intel HD as GPU.

    Here's my result. On games though this results doesn't really reflect its performance.

    OC (+120 / +205)..

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P6404 3DMarks

    I tried things like disabling the Intel HD on the Device manager and cntrl-fn/f7 but no luck, but it's alright. Witcher 2, BF3, Crysis 2(DX11/HR) are all running ultra quite flawlessly for me now with the new 306.02.
     
    thief1958, Aug 31, 2012
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  6. EddieHarris

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    I have the same vbios dunno about board revision. soo annoying
     
    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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    Can you try +135/+400 and see if your result comes close to 6800 or 7100?
     
    hackness, Aug 31, 2012
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    Hey I tried +120/+205 clocks just to see what happened and I churned out:

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P6556 3DMarks


    @thief, I just noticed your drivers are at 8.17.13.277, which aren't the most recent, If you could try downloading that and giving 3dmark 11 a run through with NO overclock just use stock clocks and see if they are close to mine. If so, when did you get your laptop as it might have something to do with our batch.
     
    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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    hackness, Aug 31, 2012
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    If possible hackness would you mind checking GPU-z for what your GPU Clock MHz is with what MHz the memory is?

    Currently mine look like this:

    GPU Clock 719/ Memory 900/ Boost 719
    Default Clock 719/ Memory 900/ 719

    Thief if you could do the same that would be great

    Cheers guys
     
    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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  12. fenryr423

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    that memory is showing half of what i get @ 854/2235
    Capture.PNG

    very strange indeed
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    This is kind of silly, maybe the new batch has been down clocked. Well at least we may have found the reason for my low stock scores. Mind posting an image of your whole GPU-Z so I can compare it with mine? What drivers are you running?
     
    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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    Mine is being RMA'd at the moment, but from the data I took before RMA. It's exactly the same as yours 719/900, the reason it shows 900 is because GDDR5 was developed based on DDR3 SDRAM which the DDR3 has doubled data rate of DDR2. It's probably why GPU-Z divides it by 2. The memory clock format is also what AMD is using now, and NVIDIA just display it as doubled MHz.

    Edit: Anyway I'll get mine back from RMA the next few days, this time it's coming with a different serial number, so it might be another card and might have the problem you have.
     
    hackness, Aug 31, 2012
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    306.02 modded. what hackness said is correct. When i actually open GPU -Z mine shows 900. that was a screenshot from nvidia inspector which is built off GPU-Z but evidently doesnt divide the memory clock
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    So your standard GPU clock is faster than mine. Is that at stock clocks? Kind weird that mine would be down clocked on stock. Yeah hackness if you could keep me posted just in case it does have something to do with a recent batch.
     
    EddieHarris, Aug 31, 2012
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    Sure will do.
     
    hackness, Aug 31, 2012
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    that is at 854/2235
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    EddieHarris I got the same results stock as you do. Ill try over clocking it after I get out of work..

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
    ruvy01, Aug 31, 2012
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    ok i have another idea. hit FN esc. you will see a power conservation option. change it to performance
     
    fenryr423, Aug 31, 2012
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    Vergeofinsanity81, Sep 1, 2012
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    this is so weird...i get a better score in balanced mode than in performance mode.
     
    ruvy01, Sep 1, 2012
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    There are 4 graphics test all shown under "Detailed Scores" of the result. If you will notice that there are Graphics Test 1-4, Physics Test and Combined Test. I'm always 9-10 FPS lower on the 1st Test. While Graphics Test 2-4, Physics Test and Combined Test results are equal , average, sometimes higher than other GTX 680m with higher scores than mine. That's why I know that it switches from Integrated to dedicated...
     
    thief1958, Sep 1, 2012
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    Yeah no real difference for me to be honest. I seem to be stuck around 5800 with stock clocks every time no matter what. Shame tho as I got this card expecting it to smash 6000+ with stock clocks based on what others had posted up on this site. Hopefully its just the beta drivers messing around.
     
    EddieHarris, Sep 1, 2012
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    i get the same scores in performance mode but when i put it in balanced mode and adaptive in nvidia control panel i get just under 6k... same thing with throttle stop...i get better scores without it off.
     
    ruvy01, Sep 1, 2012
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    games work fine though... i get high 40s low 50s on ultra in sleeping dogs with the newest beta drivers
     
    ruvy01, Sep 1, 2012
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    I think a purchased version of 3DMark 11 software will have the preset option to set which GPU to use and other options. (I only have auto and Intel HD as GPU option).

    The free version should prolly have a start-up, prep-up scene before it does the actual test. (for those with integrated GPU).
     
    thief1958, Sep 1, 2012
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    Too much confusion in this thread

    Just throwing out some ideas here :)

    @OP:
    - Are you complaining about 400 less in GPU score in 3DMark11?
    I suggest you people should compare MSI afterburner graphs (GPU/Memory clocks) from a 3DMark11 run to see if OP have more clock bouncing (throttling) than the rest, forcing the 3DMark score (GPU score) down a bit
    - Have you applied a new thermal paste than the standard factory paste? Overclocking relies on a good thermal paste
    - Have you compared FPS in games with the other people to see if its just 3DMark11 screwing things up for you?
     
    Cloudfire, Sep 1, 2012
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    If I may add more confusing infos :)..



    Here are my TW2 screenshots with no v-sync, with fps of different clocks...

    witcher2 2012-09-01 21-35-29-55.jpg
    Stock clocks 5955 GPU score 3DMark 11.

    witcher2 2012-09-01 21-28-04-47.jpg
    +135/0 OC 6255 GPU 3DMark 11.

    witcher2 2012-09-01 21-30-10-35.jpg
    +135 / 306 OC 5955 GPU Mark 11


    witcher2 2012-09-01 21-32-56-24.jpg
    +135 / 607 5855 GPU 3DMark 11.
     
    thief1958, Sep 1, 2012
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    must be something wrong with 3dmark 11...or just not optimized lol
     
    ruvy01, Sep 2, 2012
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    One thing I've noticed is the Clevo BIOS has clock bouncing. MSI does not. Saltius provided me with two BIOS at stock voltage at 900/2200, one MSI, and one Clevo. MSI is solid as a rock, Clevo bounces. However in games, performance is good, and the Clevo actually runs a bit cooler.
     
    HTWingNut, Sep 2, 2012
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    OK I got my card back from RMA, installed and tested. As I thought this time they sent me a complete new card.

    This is what I got at stock clock with the new card:

    TS Off: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6182 3DMarks

    TS On: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6194 3DMarks
     
    hackness, Sep 6, 2012
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    It does seem that the 3610QM doesn't quite power the 680M to hit the 6100+ mark unless the BIOS has been flashed in the 680M
     
    EddieHarris, Sep 6, 2012
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    hackness, Sep 6, 2012
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    It's been down for a couple hours now. Has this happened before? I was just getting around to benching my 680M too lol...
     
    AlphaMagnum, Sep 6, 2012
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    3DMark result pages are up now. First time I see that problem, probably merging Lucidlogix check into the site.
     
    hackness, Sep 7, 2012
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    newest drivers 306.23 upped my stock score from 5800-5900 to 6100... very nice)
     
    ruvy01, Sep 14, 2012
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    Your scores are just fine. Its about what I got on stock. Now, I can push it to a stable 7000+ with OC.
     
    Mvejerslev, Sep 14, 2012
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    Well, I seem to be in a bit deeper of a rut compared to the one OP was in. I've tried just about everything mentioned in this thread, apart from flashing the vbios, and I can't seem to get a good Graphics score out of 3dmark 11. I've watched the clocks in Afterburner and if I put power management on maximum performance in the nvidia control panel the clocks don't bounce, they sit at the full, stock, clocks yet this doesn't change my graphics score in 3dmark. It sits in the same area no matter what I try. I was on the 306.97 drivers but I reverted to 306.23 because someone in here claimed that they helped improve performance, no luck. I'm seriously considering RMAing my card because if I pay 500 dollars for something I expect it to perform as it's claimed to. Is there anything anyone could think of that might be causing these poor results?

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P5866 3DMarks
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P5845 3DMarks
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P5849 3DMarks

    Downgraded to 302.92 just to test, same results.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P5877 3DMarks

    Back up to 306.97 produced slightly better results but these are likely just due to the deviations between tests.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P5903 3DMarks

    Mind you, these are just 'pick of the litter' tests. I average about 5400 in the graphics score department which is fairly disappointing.
     
    0xsergy, Oct 14, 2012
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    If you have a Clevo, press Fn+Esc and make sure that is set to "Performance Mode". I had a similar issue before because I set mine to "Quiet Mode" and even though Windows was set to performance, it still stifled the overall performance a bit.
     
    HTWingNut, Oct 15, 2012
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    Already on performance mode. I'm 99% sure it's just a bad card. I'm looking into if my manufacturer is willing to RMA it.
     
    0xsergy, Oct 15, 2012
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    Well i'm in the same boat since i got my clevo 170EM. A get around 5800 points to in 3dmark11. Can't understand why some at stock get 6000. I got a 3820QM btw. I always felt that my combined score was low... around 4800 points. If your manufacturer backs you up with a bad card let me know.
     
    OriKiller, Oct 15, 2012
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    I have a question for you guys. What do you have pre rendered frames set on in the Nvidia control panel? Let the application decide or a custom selection?
     
    0xsergy, Oct 16, 2012
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    let the application decide. Why? should we use a custom value? btw i havent updated my bios since i got my laptop. Could it be something related with that? maybe updates fixed something.
     
    OriKiller, Oct 16, 2012
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    I just switched mine to '1' and I immediately got a 6090 graphics score(on stock clocks which is quite nice tbh). I'm trying 2 and 3 atm to see how they compare. I've run into a throttling issue at 135/400 OC. On the first test it's the most prevalent, on the others I get the same framerates as others with that overclock get. I'm wondering if it has something to do with pre render frames so that's why I'm testing the others on this OC to see how they perform.

    EDIT: 1 gives the best graphics score, 2,3, etc just start to slowly go down. Now to figure out this throttling issue that others don't seem to get on 135/400 based on their FPS on the 3d mark results page.
     
    0xsergy, Oct 16, 2012
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    Thx... gonna try that and run 3dmark 11 again.
     
    OriKiller, Oct 16, 2012
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    No changes. well, ill try a bios update.
     
    OriKiller, Oct 16, 2012
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    I can't seem to figure this out. It even throttles on 40 core/0 mem OC. That seems awfully low. I'll post some 3dmark 11 benches in a few minutes.

    EDIT:
    Default clocks.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P6189 3DMarks

    135/200 OC
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P6873 3DMarks
    In the 1st test the throttling is the most prevalent, a bit in the others but not quite as bad.

    135/400
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P6746 3DMarks
    Even worse than 135/200 due to throttling.

    Here's an example of what happens in the first test. Almost immediate throttling while temps don't exceed 67C. Mind you, the max was from previous tests.
    [​IMG]

    Compare these two graphic scores(same clocks), for example, and look at the FPS in each graphics section(cpu sections will differ because I have a stronger processor).

    Mine, with gpu throttling: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz,CLEVO P170EM score: P6816 3DMarks

    Someone elses(forget whose, sorry) with no throttling: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7098 3DMarks

    On the first test I do worst due to throttling but after that I end up with a higher score than him. Any idea as to what could be causing the throttling? I've tried 306.92 and 306.23 but no change. I might do a clean install tomorrow to be sure.
     
    0xsergy, Oct 16, 2012
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    What is the vbios version of your card?
    Mine was 80.04.29.00.01 and with that bios i don't have throttling @ 854/2400 (only with furmark but i think it's a security feature of Nvidia)
     
    Tonrac, Oct 17, 2012
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    Try running the benchmarks with your desired clocks with throttle stop running.

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
     
    myx, Oct 17, 2012
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