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    7970M benchmark results (ONLY)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Meaker@Sager, Jun 8, 2012.

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    The was the 7970M...when I switch, it switches to the intel graphics.
     
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    You've installed the proper driver from Dell's website, right?
     
    GTRagnarok, Jun 12, 2012
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    Stock drivers from a system restore (from AlienRespawn) due to the machine not performing correctly out of the box...
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 12, 2012
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    your clocks aren't right. 300 / 150? you're either on battery / in power saving mode / using the integrated graphics
     
    masterchef341, Jun 12, 2012
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    300/150 is the idle speed.
     
    GTRagnarok, Jun 12, 2012
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    He can`t be running the IGP since that would only give 600 in GPU score.
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 12, 2012
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    DJ, reinstall the amd driver..something went wrong when you tried the system restore/recovery discs

    Sent from my SGH-T989D using Tapatalk 2
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 12, 2012
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    It's definitely plugged in. I can attest to that. My latests are here: AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3820QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P5911 3DMarks

    My physics score is really high it seems, but my PScores, FPS and graphics scores are low in comparison to, say, GTRagnarok.

    Also, the clocks are still showing at 300/150 MHz.....?

    GTRagnarok, have you OC'd your CPU? As mine is higher in spec but yours is scored at a higher MHz Processor clock...


    I seriously have no idea what's been going on... Stressed tbh.

    Edit after seeing Slick's post: Those results are from not doing anything to the drivers (yet): still the same as those from factory image.
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 12, 2012
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    5911 is right in the wheelhouse. Your 3dmark11 scores are better than average for a stock setup
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 12, 2012
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    That happens from time to time because 3DMark check the clocks before the GPU is loaded for test
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 12, 2012
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    I don't know what was up then, because I was switching graphics using the FN you advised me to do, and both times I'd get low scores and fail.

    Any idea why the 3DMark 11 core speeds of my card are 300/150? Surely they'd automatically refresh to the regular stock clocks? Or do I have some incredibly powerful card? (LMAO I wish)
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 12, 2012
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    You can increase the turbo boost multiplier up by 4 in the BIOS or with Intel XTU.
     
    GTRagnarok, Jun 12, 2012
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    I really can't wait to OC mine to 920/1450 ish, should give me 6200 or so if it gives a 10-15% boost over the 5800 stock which I've seen as a general average score. I'll be running an SSD and 8GB 1600mhz RAM w/ 3610 [3.3ghz] quad so it should overall be pretty legit.

    BF3 on Ultra settings will rule! Can't wait to get Warface / Planetside 2 when they come out [free games that look awesome] and maybe some Guild Wars 2!!! Oh man....
     
    micahmatthew, Jun 13, 2012
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    Vantage Score (with no OC or driver updates): AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3820QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P22345 3DMarks

    Is this good?

    It still shows the 7970M core clock at 300MHz and the Memory Clock at 150MHz - hasn't changed since last night (bearing in mind i have turned the machine off, therefore the default clocks should show).

    Is a processor clock of 3492MHz for a Ivy Bridge 3820QM a weak clock or just right?

    Edit: Anybody want to look at my clocks to see if anything is amiss with my scores (including the core and memory clocks of my GPU - as they are the same on both 3DMark11 and Vantage), please? Thanks :)
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 13, 2012
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    As you have been told by Cloudfire, 3dmark sometimes does not sync loading the graphics card and reading the clocks properly and therefore the idle clocks are read instead.

    Please read the responses people take time to leave so you are not repeating your questions.

    The score is spot on.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 13, 2012
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    Oh I read that, I am not ignorant.

    My questions is in relation to the fact that I have run a separate benchmark tool after I have left the computer off overnight. Surely, the 3DMark will read the proper clocks after a whole night of the machine being off, and running an entirely different tool?
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 13, 2012
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    3dmark has its own built in clock reader so what you have done makes no difference.

    So yes, in this matter I am afraid you are not fully informed (or were).
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 13, 2012
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    DJ, you're worrying way too much about this or that. The only thing that you should be worried about is the final number...

    For a stock system, you scored 5900 3dmark11's and over 22K Vantage. This is excellent and above average.

    Now imagine what your system will do overclocked (both CPU and Gpu)

    It really doesn't matter to me that 3dmark11 picks up your idle clocks instead of on load clocks. THis is a glitch in 3dmark and you shouldn't worry about it.

    NOW...STOP MESSING AROUND, INSTALL A GAME and PLAY!! :D that's what your laptop was built to do!!
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 13, 2012
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    I'm trying to overclock but vantage keeps freezing!! >.< :p
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 13, 2012
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    Every time I push past a certain clock 3DMark11 just crashes and says the connection to "keyboard is lost"... haven't a clue what this means.

    Best/most stable I can get at the moment is:

    Core - 910
    Memory - 1320

    No where near anybody else's clocks, as mine keeps crashing. :/
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 13, 2012
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    Okay, ran into a problem with MSIAfterburner, for some reason the sliders have randomly given me less room to adjust them. I'll give you before and after photos; the core and mem clocks (955/1420) are exactly the same in both yet on the seond picture the sliders have less room for improvement. I tried uninstalling, but the problem hasn't gone away. :/

    Before: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

    After: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

    Someone tell me what is going on here? I was getting (what seemed to be) impressive scores, then Afterburner cuts my potential short. :/ Which is blatantly obvious upon comparing ths sliders.

    I need to see how much this card can pump out safely over the next few days, to see if I'll keep it or wait for the 680M.

    Oh and btw, the 7970M absolutely dominates Just Cause 2 at 60fps with everything on max and AA x 4 at stock clocks.
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 14, 2012
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    If you overclock, close and open, the sliders will have more room again.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 14, 2012
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    cool, thanks for the reassurance! just hope Clevo will release an option to switch off Enduro!
     
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    This is about right for your clocks....and this is getting close to the upper limit for the stock voltage.

    The way you can tell is look at your GPU score...which is over 6400. So you're good
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 14, 2012
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    Thanks man, how do I save different profiles and settings though? You're a pro at this (should get paid by NBR >.>) and MSIA seems to have a mind of its own when it comes to saving the profiles.
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 14, 2012
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    LOL...thanks for nice comments

    MSI Afterburner is acting up cause the 7970m isn't officially supported yet. So we hack it via the registry to enable overclocking for the 7970m

    To save a profile, first reset to default, make sure it reads 850/1200. I've found that rebooting here is a good idea.

    Then come back in after and to set profile, set your new overclock, click on a profile number, then hit save. You can set the app to start with windows so it is a permanent change
     
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    Not a problem man, just forwarding the truth. :)
    Do you suffer from MSIA suffering from shortening your sliders, as well? Meakers' solution helped earlier: set overclock, apply, close. Rinse and repeat. But now my slider clocks are limited/constricted again.
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 14, 2012
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    The afterburner sliders can act weird at times. What i have seen is that say i overclock the card to 950/1450. If i close and open, i have the room on my sliders again but the clocks start at 950/1450

    I've never had the opposite where i have no room on the sliders, usually with me, it's too much room

    But for me its currently irrelevant anyways, I'm playing Diablo3 right now and i'm running stock clocks. No point overclocking when I'm already getting 100+fps with the game maxxed @ 1080p
     
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    Okay, fair enough. Ever had it when your 3DMark11 test consistently fails at clocks that you've previously bested on? The Clocks I posted above are now causing crashes... :/
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 14, 2012
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    that's normal with overclocking. If you want 1ghz core stable, you are going to have to install the 1.075v vbios. at 990mhz, the card may be tempermental with power. I'm lucky because my card can run 990mhz core all day long on the stock voltage, but cards vary with overclocking

    There may also be a background process in windows that is causing your crash. If 3dmark doesn't have exclusive rights to your system, it will stop the test and tell you either the video card driver stopped responding or it lost exclusive rights
     
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    Yeah, the AMD driver stops responding and is 'recovered'. Also get a message, now I'm paraphrasing, but something about "losing access to keyboard"...
     
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    ^ so it sounds like there is something else going on like interference from a virus scanner or sometimes, if you have an app open that is getting updates like with email clients, it can cause a crash. You are learning about overclocking now lol
     
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    What version of afterburner are folks using? The latest stable gets my clocks stock at 300mhz
     
    Tanyrhiew, Jun 14, 2012
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    i'm using 2.2.0
     
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    good job! I see you've been tweaking your setup this afternoon lol
     
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    All day bro, I need to know how much I can get out of this system by Monday (latest) as UK Alienware owners only have 7 days to ask for a refund...

    Because obviously the 680M is round the corner and if it's more powerful, i'll want it. When you can't go to work/gym for 14 weeks what else is a man to do other than game?

    If I ain't bench pressing, I'm benchmarking... >.>
     
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    you're close to the limit of what your card will do on stock voltage...but it is a good score none the less.

    The 680m's are scoring about 5900 stock...this was on a system sporting a 3920xm...so this means your computer might be actually scoring higher stock vs stock

    Unfortunately, we don't the 680m in independant hands yet to do a more thorough analysis in games
     
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    I know it's off topic, and it's only conjecture on your part but: do you expect the 680M to perform significantly better? Will actual drivers for the 7970M ever be released/make the card better?
     
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    it is so hard to say right now. So far, the 680m and 7970m are scoring very similarly in the synthetic benchmarks which would indicate that they will perform similarly in games

    As far as games go, most expect a 5-10% increase in favor of the 680m...this is largely dependant on individual games as some games favor AMD and some Nvidia. But we don't know...however, if we are going with history and look at the 580 vs 6990m last year, the 580m was 5% more powerful. i'll be conservative and say +/- 5% in the 680m vs 7970m scenerio, and until we have the cards in independant hands, it is too hard to guess based on synthetics and nvidia PR slides

    Another factor is we don't know if the 680m will overclock well. I have my concerns. You've already seen what the 7970m can do on stock voltage
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 14, 2012
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    Dude, if you are going to compare useless Performance benchmarks, atleast do it right. Stop looking at total score

    7970M get 5514 in GPU score
    680M get 6024 in GPU score.
     
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    and if you are going to quote GPU scores from notebookcheck for the 7970m, i would quote their scores for the 680m too as it shows the test was done consistently

    notebookcheck:

    680M get [URL="http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680M.72679.0.html]5762[/URL] in GPU score
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 14, 2012
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    Well, with the overclocking I've done, I cannot play Crysis as I constanty get crashes and hangs. :(
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 14, 2012
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    it is normal to have to drop the overclock in games. Run 950/1400
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 14, 2012
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