7970M temps

Thats what I mean, I get WEAKER scores when I FN+F7 to disable Intel 4000 and run solely from the 7970M. I think my card is faulty.

 

Run 3dmark11 and post yout results here.
Furmark is not exactly a performance test. 3dmar11 is.

 

Just ran the 1080p 15min furmark test at stock clocks for CPU/GPU: max 85 deg C after 10mins.

Higher temps to be expected as I've only got one fan!

 

If I set fans max I barely get past 65c but if I use stock fans 76c since they won't spin up till it's already fairly warm.

 

here you go spettow...furmark burnin test on a stock 7970m...and after 5 1/2 mins...my temp is 65c...the 7970m runs ice cold. Your 90c is way too high. This is indicative that you have a heatsink or heatpipe problem.

 

Well, to start off, you're running it at 720p res while he's been doing it at 1080p. I've ran it 1080p on my P150EM and i got to 90 C after 4 1/2 minutes o.o

yet, I only get max of 70 C when playing games.

 

Thank's dude

 

Had not noticed it. It' s a good argument. Will the resolution affects the temperature so much?

 

In general, yes. The GPU will work harder to render more pixels.

 

aWakeN, it doesn't appear that going to 1080p on furmark raised the temps much for me. A little over 5 mins furmark burnin test @ 1080p = 67c. The 7970m's are a different beast, they run ice cold

SO unless Clevo's have completely inferior cooling systems in your laptops, going to 90c is waaaay to high IMHO

 

oooops...double post. Mods, please remove

 

Hmm... perhaps I should use TURBO FAN MODE
GOGOGOGOGOOGOGo

 

Or abandon ship #jk

 

I almost can guarantee the only way temps are that bad is paste is not applied good or even worse and more likely it's a vram cooling issue... That's where the majority of heat even comes from. Most of these on stock fan control will only get a max of 75c ish and that's only because on our Alienwares medium fan won't kick in till close to there.

 

Ya, pretty much only seeing a 71-74C range during extended gaming, though that is also in a 15inch frame with a Zalman Cooler and ICD paste

 

Just a quick question - are fps of 25 low for my card?

 

no, that's about right for your card at 1080p

 

I don't know if I just have an ace paste job on my Alienware, but my card runs ice cold.

 

Ok cool, thanks.

Another question - has anyone played around with the settings for Witcher2?
I get BSD on high. when I switch to a hybrid of medium/high it runs better.

 

Running furmark on 720p makes my card go 93C in 4minutes :0

 

What do you guys get with Furmark? Also what is a reasonable Furmark temp, as nothing really rides the GPU at 100% constantly...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/665964-7970m-temps-6.html#post8616693

 

Thanks mate. Always so helpful =D

 

NP bro!

 

For witcher 2 I played on single card with no probs at all on stock clocks ULTRA graphics incliding Ubersampling (every 4fps is resampled into 1fps for a improvement to visuals beyond antialising and anistropic filtering).
But on any driver even 8.5beta gives me black screen after a few minute at those settings in crossfire. So to answer question Witcher 2 doesn't cause BSOD so something else may be wrong. What's the bsod number?

 

Just to add to the temps, Ive hit 79 in Rift.. though 78/79 fan kicks in and sends it below 70 in seconds. Cyrsis 2 Im around 67-75.

 

That's just too hot for everyday use it seems to me the EC fan control for all our laptop companies need those medium high fans kicking in at 65-70c not 75c-80c

 

Yeah its not ideal, its in an m18 R2.

Is this working as Dell intended so to speak? Any suggestions?

 

Yeah and I'm having same thing in M18x R1. Unfortunately yes these fan presets are as dell intended.

 

In response to this i've looked around at the pictures that slick posted on his upgrade and i've examined my Sager 15" NP9150 and I gotta say i think i know why the sager's run hotter.

It would seem that the alienware m17x has a bigger heat sink on the graphics chip. You have 3 heat sink pipes compared to our 2. The pipes look bigger as well. You also have thermal pads for all the memory modules while we have none. Only the heatsink that makes direct contact with the chip and nothing else.

 

Sager/Clevo doesn't come with thermal pads on the vram? what about the capacitors and other components? Direct metal on ram contact? Really? That's not very efficient in terms of heat dissipation

i guess you can always add your own thermal pads.

EDIT: Oh I misread that...you said only the heatsink makes direct contact with the GPU and that's it...so your heatsinks don't have the ability to cool the vram. This just means that the vram heat is going right into the case. Hopefully, Clevo have tested this and it is an ok, although hotter, design

 

Wow omg I would definately either add your own or bring this up as a complaint at sager company. I wouldn't accept that. By the way that gpus are designed it makes no sense on clevos and sagers build to not have pads for all the other components and vram. With crappy pads I've had 6970m and 5870m reach 90c+ on vram. So if you have none at all that's a major design flaw and issue. I would make one big complaint and demand it fixed if that was my computer.

 

Might be very thin ones (using the thermal pad on the cpu as reference), i'm not really sure, you can't seem to lift up that section of the heat sink. I reapplied some AS5 (2nd best paste you can get) and while it's still curing i ran Furmark and got 75c sooo...

 

That's better than perhaps it was the core wasn't pasted good before.

 

LOL! Maybe Clevo will put some of you AW boys on their payroll since you obviously know more about laptop design than they do. It's certainly easier to cool a 17" notebook than a 15" one too.

 

Lol true but I know a few year old laptop from a friend and his runs very cool. SVL7 with 7970m in a older M15x talk about future proofing

Yes clevo has a lot to learn from Alienware. A few year old 15incher can cool a 7970m fine on it's original heatsink... That's like oh yeah slap in face to Clevo. I hope for you great users here with clevo/sager 7970m that you can call in and get this settled. It's not right.

 

I'm sure Clevo will keep that in mind since AW was built on Clevo before Dell purchased them.

My temps are fine, by the way.

 

what temps do you get?

also on further examination the bit that we seem to have the most difference in with the AW's is that you have a thermal pad around the Chip and we don't

 

Upper 70's with initial benchmark testing. No intensive gaming yet.

 

It's in the extended gaming sessions that vram heat could get those temps up higher especially if fans for a lot of use don't really start to rev up till mid upper 70c's

 

So are you guys with Alienware running with Enduro or just your discrete graphics? You think there is a problem when my temperature rises about 10C with Enduro on? My GPU temperature is 56C- 60C idle only using discrete GPU. But once I turn on my my Enduro, my GPU temperature goes up about 10C. So if people are getting below 60C with Enduro on, I think I have a problem here

 

Well to clarify for what I do know those here on M18x R1 or R2 with 7970m is not using enduro at all as it wouldn't function correct. So if an answer is to be found a M17x R4 owner would have to answer that. Enduro should be loweing your temps I thought. At idle the discrete should be on low 1watt draw and off and running on IGP by design.

 

Yea I thought it would make more sense if it lowered my GPU temp. Can anyone here with m17x R4 check if their temp rises with Enduro on?

 

Alienware users in the m17x are either disabling the integrated via bios or running on dedicated GPU via FN+F7

I think Enduro works better on the 12.6.9 betas but i'm not sure. I'm not doing anything with respect to integrated graphics until i'm confident that they sorted out Enduro.

The beautiful thing is that even on the 7970m, when not under load, i'm still getting 3 hrs on battery

 

Yeah 7970m idle is really nice. Wow about temps... Using catalyst 9.0 beta and wow haven't had much chance to play in crossfire but in all the same games I see 10c less each card. The cards barely got 56c in xfire in a bunch of games. Diablo 3 went from 100fps single card past the 130fps that a previous driver did in xfire to in less busy areas running 180fps. So they aren't scaling 100% but they are quite a bit.

 

This is the final screenshot of running Furmark. The max temp seems way too high.

 

I did the 15 minute burn in test at 1080p and got 87C max. I got my rig from Mythlogic.

 

A second run puts the temps at 92C. Seems like the Clevo's are seeing higher temps in Furmark.

 

I'm pretty sure myself that its part of clevos enduro issues. AW users see higher temps when they turn on enduro. Hopefully once we get some drivers that fix our enduro issues we will see reduced temps

 

Guys, it isn't fair comparing the temps in the alienware and the Clevo. The alienware have more robust cooling hardware. We have 3 heatpipes on our heatsinks and thermal padding over our vram and other components...while the Clevo's have 2 heatpipes and by default, they have no thermal material over the vram, capacitors and transitors.

running furmark burn in at 1080p, my system stabilizes at 67c, if i run the default 720p test, my furmark is 65c




this has been repasted with a quality thermal paste though.


Now some tips on how to get your laptops cooler:

First off, repaste. Even if you opted for the IC diamond option, what i have found is that the manufacturers almost always put too much paste on. This could heat up the laptop ~3c. You want as thin a layer as you possibly can put on

Second, all our laptops have bottom fan intakes. What we have found is that if you raise the back of your laptop up, you will lower your temps another 5-7c, maybe more. Some have gone out and gotten laptop coolers but If you go over to the alienware forums, you will see reference to the "bottle cap mod", or the "Book mod" lol...these are DIY methods to raise the back of your laptop to allow unrestricted access of cooler ambient air to your bottom fan intakes. Try it! Makes a big difference

Example of bottle cap mod: