The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    88C on gpu help!!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ChaosX5, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Michel.K

    Michel.K 167WAISIQ

    Reputations:
    353
    Messages:
    1,216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55


    You'll lose your warranty if you open it up?


    As you didn't even know what thermal paste was earlier in this thread it doesn't seem like a good idea that you even try to open it up and do anything yourself. That sounds like a very very bad idea.


    Is the games unplayable when it reaches those temps? If not, why do you bother to be so super paranoid? My brother who smokes alot of weed has got damaged by it and is so paranoid it makes me sick :eek:
     
  2. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    They are just sooo high. Ive opened up a computer before but thats easy. I know I need to lift up the keyboard or something dont I?


    EDIT: Thanks to the mod that that deleted nightmears posts, that guy was really getting on my nerves.
     
  3. Saisei

    Saisei Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    108
    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Im sorry i was playing around dont open anything unless its for ram or the cpu upgrade. Theres a reason why im a nightmare...
     
  4. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    no problem. I admire someone who can appologize. Anyway back on topic does anyone have any more solutions?
     
  5. Saisei

    Saisei Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    108
    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    What about laptop coolers?are air vents full of dust?
     
  6. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    A max of 96c+ is way too much if the ambient temps over there are enough to give you cold feet.

    When you said the motherboard got replaced, did that include a new GPU and fan assembly?
     
  7. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    They just told me that they replaced the motherboard so Im not sure.
     
  8. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    What were the temps like with the previous board?

    Sounds like they messed up.
     
  9. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    gpu never passed 79C. I dont remember my temps on company of heroes though.
     
  10. xxbadboys93

    xxbadboys93 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    89
    Messages:
    913
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Its been about 2months since I got my new laptop. I opened it up and found balls of dust clogging the fins of my fans. (I was receiving high temperatures) After I vacuumed and sucked the dust up my temps dropped drastically. Remember even though it doesnt look dusty on the outside, there is certainly going to be dusty inside. Good luck :)
     
  11. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ok. I want to try this but how do I open the laptop? and does it void warranty?
     
  12. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Easy way to find out if its the fans are clogged.

    How many fans does your laptop have?

    Do the CPU and GPU share the same fan?

    Whats your CPU's idle and max temps?
     
  13. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    cpu temps are normal. I dont know how many fans I have, anyway I g2g, please keep the replies coming, I really want to deal with this as fast as possible, Ill report back tomorrow. Thanks for all the help
     
  14. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

    Reputations:
    451
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    If it's hitting up to 96c and above, that's an issue, below 90c is generally normal temps, but 96 sounds like the GPU heatsink/fan is either clogged, or not fastened onto the GPU core correctly, or they didn't apply thermal grease. That would worry me since those kinds of temps could cause the entire notebook chassis to warp over a few months, causing the motherboard to flex under pressure. It's not uncommon, and I suggest sending it back in and telling them your issue if your not tech savvy and don't know what you'd be doing if you tried repairing it yourself.
     
  15. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

    Reputations:
    2,420
    Messages:
    2,676
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Provided that your fans and such are normal (meaning tha they're not clogged or anything) you will have to do a LOT to get your GPU to operate at or under 70 degrees when playing that specific game or other games that stress the GPU that much. Probably the biggest drop in temperatures would be from undervolting your GPU. This is not recommended if you are not familiar with the topic and even if you were it's still risky as your GPU could be relatively less stable at full load compared to normal settings. Your overclocking ability will also be limited.

    Otherwise, you could try purchasing and reapplying thermal paste as some people have already mentioned and see what that does, but it's probably not going to get you from 88 degrees to 70.

    And again, these are around normal temperatures for GPUs in most gaming notebooks during gaming.
     
  16. CA36GTP

    CA36GTP Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If your old board was that much cooler, I think the problem is obvious. If you don't have experience disassembling notebooks yourself, I'd get it fixed under warranty. They clearly screwed up.
     
  17. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ok. I am currently trying to open it from the bottom and I will take a picture and show you guys so you can tell me if it looks ok.
     
  18. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
  19. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

    Reputations:
    1,212
    Messages:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  20. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

    Reputations:
    1,212
    Messages:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    you do have the service manual with you right?
     
  21. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581
    I played some DOW2, and my GPU was 78C sitting on the menu, and topped out at 79C in a game.
     
  22. LPTP-LVR

    LPTP-LVR Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    298
    Messages:
    1,794
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    55
    OK please do NOT continue this if you don't know what you're doing. It's pretty easy to take off the heatsink etc. but it's also VERY easy to ruin your CPU and GPU if you apply AS5 or another thermal grease poorly. Go to the Arctic Silver 5 site or look for how-to's on the web for applying this. Follow the step by step procedure EXACTLY like it says...it's not really hard to do but don't even start if your not confident about what needs to be done

    Poor application like putting too much of the stuff on can potentially fry your CPU, GPU and also your mobo if the GPU is soldered onto it for instance...and no warranty will cover this!!!

    btw...if you just loosen all the screws you don't need to take them out separately, you can just lift the heatsink when they're all loose and the screws will just hang in the heatsink
     
  23. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ok, heres what I did:
    http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/17/f_DSCN0389m_2f885b1.jpg

    With the fan on dow 2 doesnt pass 70 and with the fan off 74 max. Its lifted around 4 inches but the laptop feels really unstable on those lego blocks, I also shot compressed air when I opened it and last night at the fans. Anyway, if someone could suggest an alternative that would be a little bit easier that would be great. BTW the laptop was on cardboard before but lift 0.9 inches off of it, could it be that the cardboard was taking up the heat and throwing it back?

    EDIT: Just ran ati tool and it was at 90 after 10 minutes. Is that good? And crysis is almost done downloading, I will be testing that soon.
     
  24. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    459
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    How does it go after it reaches 90? Does it keep going up or the fans kick in faster and it goes down?
     
  25. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    It kept switching from 89 to 90. Should I have left it on longer? I thought after 10 minutes that was the max. It stayed at 88 for 2 min. and was at 89 from 6 minutes(into the test) to 9 minutes(into the test) and then it was going back and forth between 9 and 10 so I though it was the max. Fans didnt change after it reached the klow 80s zone.
     
  26. CA36GTP

    CA36GTP Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That is some of the coolest MacGyver'ing I've seen in a long time.
     
  27. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Im afraid to ask but whats mangyvering?
     
  28. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    459
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I think you should give it more time to see how will it handle temperatures after long time of stressing it. Do the same test again for around 30 minutes. Again, 90 isn't too dangerous, but it is high. These temperatures could be normal for your laptop. Maybe asking other owners will let you know if you should care about this problem much.
     
  29. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    ok, I also posted this in the gateway section to see what they got.
     
  30. CA36GTP

    CA36GTP Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  31. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I have a question thats been puzzling me for the longest time, why does the laptop not feel that hot? Ive heard that whenit gets in the 90s people are unable to touch it, but I can put my hand where the warm air comes out and it isnt really hot I can feel warm air but not as warm as my ps3 or 360 or even my pc. Why is this? Is the heat all on the inside? Im really starting to think Im getting false readings. Is there a way of finding this out?

    And lol at the macgyver thing, thanks too, it took me forever to make those legos.
     
  32. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    459
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    As you mentioned, the heat is inside :D
     
  33. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    But people say that they cannot touch the laptop. I can and I dont feel any heat, I only feel heat where the air comes out.
     
  34. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    459
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    It depends where the GPU is located when people touch their laptops. Yours maybe below the keyboard, so you can't feel the heat there. Did you try touching the bottom without using a cooler. I am sure it's hot there. :)
     
  35. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    When it gets to 90C how hot will the botom be?
     
  36. MAG

    MAG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    459
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Hot enough that you can't keep your hand for too long. That still depends how far the GPU is located from the bottom of the chassis (which is the part you're touching).
     
  37. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

    Reputations:
    1,212
    Messages:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    there is no answer to that. mine feels like 40-45 when it idles at 60
     
  38. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    If I dont feel much heat does that mean I am getting false readings? And is it bad to keep stressing my video card with that stress tool?

    BTW my idle temps are higher than usual. Dont know why.


    EDITD 2: Just played crysis and my temps went to 94. I felt the laptop everywhere and could not feel any heat, the ONLY place I noticed heat was under the gears of war sticker, but its always hot there even when its idle and I found no difference in heat between the two. And there is even one spot that was cold but I think thats where the cold air goes in to cool down the video card. How can I find out if Im getting false readings?
     
  39. ubernoob

    ubernoob Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    7
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Let me guess. you are trying to game at the absolute highest settings in the game. Heres a new flash... Its a laptop. THEY GET HOT.
     
  40. Saisei

    Saisei Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    108
    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Why not use nedium settings in games to stress gpu alittle less.
     
  41. xxbadboys93

    xxbadboys93 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    89
    Messages:
    913
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    LOL, laptops tend to get very hot because it some many parts crambed into a small motherboard. Laptops also have poor ciculation.
     
  42. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    94C though... 94C is hot. AND I DONT FEEL ANY HEAT. I mean the thing is like 1 inch thick and only 1 of its components is running at 94C yet the whole laptops exterior feels no different than when its idle(47C)??
     
  43. Saisei

    Saisei Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    108
    Messages:
    869
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    There are some laptops that dont get into the 90s even while gaming.His idle temps are very high.
     
  44. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581

    I just ran ATiTool for 45 minutes at a 605/1500/900 overclock and maxed at 80.
     
  45. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    UPDATE: Read first Post.
     
  46. Idyllic

    Idyllic Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    While testing rivatuner i played CoH and my temps went up to 96 C. I raised the laptop using two dvd covers on the back and front and it maxed at 88 C. Mind you it was a 35 C day when i tested it yesterday. Right now im idling at 55 C on power saver with the two dvd covers.
     
  47. NJoy

    NJoy Няшka

    Reputations:
    379
    Messages:
    857
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    49 idle is not hot for 9800gts, it's normal
     
  48. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    UPDATE Read first post.
     
  49. Idyllic

    Idyllic Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    .............. Isnt the temperature of the air escaping your laptop completly irrlevent?
     
  50. ChaosX5

    ChaosX5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    426
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Ok. So how can I find out if Im getting false readings? And what part of the laptop is supposed to be too hot to touch when it reaches those temps??? I am postive I read somewhere that it gets really hot and untouchable in a certain area when it reaches over 90c
     
← Previous pageNext page →