9200M GS put to the test.

I would but it seems that they've locked the beta now, thats one sale they're not getting.

I would, at a guess, say that it will run poorly/playable.

 

Well i already have it and just wanted to compare.

 

Oh, well then, how well does it run

 

Not as well as I would like. I wished it would run more like RA3. I am still fiddling with the resolution and settings trying to find a perfect match.

 

I assume you've got DOXs 182.05 driver installed running in performance mode.

 

i installed it with balance mode. I don't think performance mode would offer a substantial performance boost. I already have everything off/set-low in the nvidia control panel. I might give it a try with the next driver. If anyone can confirm massive performance boosts with the performance, then i would re-install it.

 

What are the differences between the 9200gs and the 9300 gs?

 

I point you to this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=298902

I would guestimate that there is a 10-15% performance boost with the 9300M GS.

 

10-15% is a reasonable boost difference (for gaming)

 

yea, it just depends whether the 9300M GS is just an overclocked 9200M GS.
Seeing as the 9200M GS is a really good overclocker I wouldn't be surprised.

 

So, the 9200 gs has more or less the same power of the hd 3450 even though i reach about 2650-2700 points in the 3dmark06 with soft overclock (only core, not memory).
This is the same level of a standard clocked DDR2 8600 GS

 

They're near indentical in graphical power. You will want to look into power consumption and average temperature.

 

I'm finding temps getting a bit high now without having even changed anything.

Any change on the driver front? Brightness control wise...

 

Yea, I find my Q210 with a 9200 to be very quiet but it does get warm. What temps are you getting, roughly?

And all I've managed to do with the brightness issue is have it permanently set to 50%, which is much better than full brightness but its not really a fix.

 

It's finding its way up to 83GPU and slightly higher for CPU...

Is this a problem?

Oh, and shame about the brightness issue...I don't think i want to change to the driver and lose that function, I find it necessary

 

Those temps do seem a little high, are you using it on a clean flat surface and are the vents clear? BTW, what laptop do you have?

 

Samsung X460 and yes it is being used on a desk.

 

Try elevating the back of tha laptop with a dvd case or whatever you have lying around for a better airflow underneath your laptop. 80C is too high for a cpu, try undervolting and have a look at the nbr cooling central page.

 

Also, when did you buy it? If its still new you could press Samsung or whoever your brought it off for a refund or replacement.

 

I have only had it one month, and it is only getting this hot when I play Left 4 DEad, which is quite a stressful game on the PC.

But normal temps are completely fine?

 

Awesome thread ++ rep

 

Higher than 83C for CPU! That is a good 10+ degrees too much already

 

Is the 9300M GS superior to the 9200?

 

Yes, by about 15-20% I think.

Thanks!

 

So, it will be interesting to try to overclock the 9300M GS then, it is arriving next week.

 

No, actually I think i was wrong, the highest the CPU was hitting is 78 and that is only when using the game, obviously it is usually much much lower.

Right so it does hit 81, and if i undervolt it defnitely keeps it down, but this ends up crashing the PC as obviously the lower voltages isn't enough! So is there anything I can do?

 

The reason it crashes is because your lowering the voltage too much. You've got to run stress tests at each lowering of the voltage.

Also, are the vents clean or dusty?
Always run the laptop on a solid flat surface too.

 

I sorted all this out by disabling multi-core rendering on the game i was playing and the temps are absolutely fine.

 

Any theories as to whether this card will be able to handle Starcraft 2 when it finally comes out?


Also, any reports of GPU failures with the 9200 GS? I got burned by owning an HP with a GeForce 7200 Go that failed because of the well-documented poor manufacturing processes. Waiting for the class-action suit to come through on that one...

 

I haven't heard of a Nvidia 9xxx processors failing due to the past manufacturing issues. The 9200 GS should be fine.

 

Unfortunately, I think it's doubtful that it will run, and if it does, you will have to be running it with all the graphics options turned down to low and also have it set to a low resolution.

StarcraftWire suggests that it will need an nVidia 8600M GT (desktop) to run the game.

http://www.starcraftwire.net/articles/comments/starcraft-ii-specs-emerge/

 

I find it difficult to believe that Blizzard would alienate such a large number of gamers (who play only Starcraft, and have ancient computers with weak integrated graphics) with such high requirements. As the article says, those are only the recommended hardware specs, which usually means the hardware necessary to max-out all the settings. I think the 9200 GS should be able to run SC2, although not on the highest settings.

But, this is anyone's guess really, as the game isn't released yet.

 

9200m gs will be able to play sc2, that is a FACT. It will not max it out, but it will definitely be able to play it.

 

Manic how do you tell if the 9200m gs has ddr3 or 2?

Am intererested in the HP DV6-1007tx as below
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3837241.html

WHat sort of battary life do you see when OC'ed? HOw about noraml battary life?

 

Does anyone else get better performance from 182 drivers then 185 drivers?

 

use gpu-z or the ati catalyst control centre under informations centre/graphics hardware.

 

Hi there

I have a problem with the whole overclocking thing. My lap is Samusng R560-AS03PL, with GeForce 9200M GS 512 MB DDR2. Particularly, when using the RivaTuner, following the guide on the forum here, it just doesn't seem to work. After few tests and tweaks, I changed the clocks from 500 (Core)/410 (Memory) Mhz to about 580/490 Mhz and there's was no difference whatsoever, I tested the performance in 3DMark and GTA IV, and the results where almost identical to stock settings (in GTA IV I usually get 22.xx FPS in benchmark) and even worse at times (18 FPS). I also tried using nTune and disabling Powermizer (with Powermizer Swtich) but with no luck, I don't know what am I doing wrong, I have the impression that the clock speed adjuments aren't saved or something when I run the game though I'm doing everything like in the tutorial. Also, when I tried to raise the memory clock speed to more than 600 Mhz it usually bringed about to some artifacts appearing on the screen and system rebooting. I really want to try overclocking my 9200M GS but I just doesn't work for me

EDIT: Ok, I think I got it right today. 475 Mhz is the most stable memory clock speed for me, I wonder if it shouldn't be a little higher. My stock clocks were 500(Core)/1000(Shader)/410(Memory), so far the card is stable at 750/1500/475 though I'm not finished with it yet...

 

wooopa!
i have now successfully overclocked my 9200m gs DDR2 by 30% from 530/1300/400 up to 688/520/1690 stable @ max temp of 68'C after 4 hours of gaming.
i use the 186.03 official nvidia drivers and ntune, and although the 186.03 drivers gave me a lower 3dmark score than my previous dox 182.xx drivers, the in game performance is greatly increased (about 4fps more, and a more stable fps range), especially when AA is enabled.
the overclock has boosted my FPS in assassins creed from about 16-20 fps @~medium settings, up to 22-30 fps with slightly increased graphics quality and increased resolution. both had 2xAA.

my 3Dmark scores have jumped dramaticly from 1511 up to 2255. i can see no artifacting in games or in the test. i have not pushed the card any further as of yet, but it wouldnt suprise me if i could get another 10% out of it before temps start hitting 75'C or artifacting, however i dont think i will risk using clocks that high all the time. i might just do it as a proof of concept test.

 

9200M GS rocks when OCing. No card is like it.

Dude! Turn off AA, it's not worth it.

I really wish my 9800 could do a 30% OC though, I'm lucky if it gets to 10%.

I think the voltage is not high enough to push the card much further mind, even if the temps are fine. Good luck!

 

Wow, impressive, much better than I would have expected, and thats one mean overclock!

 

i godda disagree penguins, even when running games full res is the slight wiggle to the edges of steps and roof tops that really gets on my , so i enable it whenever i can. now that ive got these new drivers i can have it on in damn near all games and situations. i run most games at about half res with 2xAA enabled and it looks better than on full res.

 

What games are you able to play on it?

 

i can play assassins creed at 25-30 fps at half reduced res, 2xAA, (looks better than full res, no AA)
colin mcrae dirt, low-med settings, 2xAA (to compensate for the low res), 25 fps.

those are the only 2 games im playing atm, but im gonna try mirrors edge when im back home @ stock and overclocked. those are the only 3 games i feel need more power to play nicely.
crysis was a terrible game. completed it in 3 days and removed it. no a fun game, just dull.

ive just tested the card a bit more, putting the core clock speed up to 720 and the memory clock down to 500, with shader adjusted to fit the core. reduced 3dmark score, no change to fps, but higher temps recorded by HWmonitor, but thast doesnt detect memory temps does it?
on that note, can gpu burn occur without any artifacting? ive seen nothing strange yet. ive been playing for the past 3 hours and highest temp recorded in HWmonitor was 64'C. ive hit that with dox drivers before @stock clocks, so im not too worried about that reading. what i am worred about is that i dunno how hot the memory is.
i really wanna find the limit to this card, so that i know how far i can push it and what clocks i can safely use normally. for all i know my memory clock could be right on that boundry, but i dont wanna toast it.
still on that note, just so i know, what DOES burning gpu memory smell like? lol

 

No, memory is not monitored.

I played all my games at 700/850 but my card was DDR3 meaning the memory clocks at 800MHz stock rather than 500MHz stock. I'm going to guess if you push the core much further it's going to hit its limit but feel free to keep going because all cards are different.

Sidenote: Don't go past 550MHz memory just for safety

 

my thinking was that as the DDR2 memory clock is 400 not the 700 stock of the DDR3 version, its not producing as much heat at stock, so it could be pushed further (by percentage) than the DDR3 version before overheating.

the core (i believe) is the same core used in the DDR3 version fo the 9200 and the same as the core used in the 9300. therefore i was pretty sure it could take atleast the 580 core clock of the 9300. you clocked yours to 700 on the same core used in the DDR2, so i thought the core would be able to do that as well, which it can.

im just in a dilemma as to how far i can push the memory. i just need to know if toasted laptop comes before artifacts due to overheated memory or if i can just push it as hard as it will go until i see artifacts, then i will know where the limits are.

 

I will surely like to try the games out on my new HP DV4. But I just wonder how good these would run on my machine as I've got only 512 DDR II on the 9200M GS. I know DDR3 makes a lot of difference Would appreciate if u could let me know if I can run CoD, Fallout, Fear & Fifa 09 with the following specs. I tried NFS Carbon & Undercover...they seem to work fine

Intel C2D T6400 2.0Ghz, 3GB RAM, 320 GB HDD, 14.1" 1280x800 screen, 9200M GS with 512MB DDRII

 

if u want to kno the true temperature of u r gpu at a heavy load do wht i did
run furmark with post processing and msaa 16x in u r highest res AND!! run orthos cpu stress test utility.now a question will pop up in u r mind saying why the hell do we have to run a cpu stress test in order to know a gpu's peak temperature?
answer:in laptops cpu and the gpu share the same heatsink and fan so stress testing u r gpu isnt enough because just stressing u r gpu u'll only get the peak temps of a stressed gpu.so by using the above method u can acquire the correct stressed temps of a gpu while gaming.and btw i oced my gpu to 700/520/1682 stable . havent 3dmarke'd it yet.

 

I overclocked my 9200M GS to 40%! No problems so far for a few weeks (only use it when needed) - plus my notebook cooler cools my laptop up to a maximium of 10 degrees C when it gets intense. Without notebook cooler GPU temp is upwards 80 degrees C, with 70 degrees C.

Overclocking this makes the card worth my while.

So that equates to Core: 741, Memory: 560 and Shader: 1820.

(I wouldn't go above 40% though)

Laptop is a HP DV 5-1000ea

 

Nice!

I have the 9300m GS, and it fits my gaming O.K.. It can run Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 etc.

I think I will begin to overclock it a little sometime.

 

I hope that the 9200m gs should be good enough (with overclocking ~ +40%)to play starcraft 2! Its more newer than the cards listed in the min requirements but performance wise, it is significantly worse, according to a benchmark list.....