AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

You explained only one thing that you use your assumptions as a fact and expect me to just accept this. And about AMD lovefest, I am typing this message on the laptop with Nvidia card. I have been using Nvidia (interchangeably with ATI) since the Riva TNT times, so I am just being realistic about what I want, which I can't say the same about you.

 

No. I think if you had to rate them Nvidia would come out on top though.

 

Yup, keeping the thread alive
I really don`t hope its true though, since I can only imagine all the work and expense to get all the damaged GPUs back.

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Anyone who remembers this btw?
NVIDIA DISASTER: thousands of GPUs faulty

 

.. I own a Geforce 680 GTX.

I'm slightly paranoid by nature, however I think that I have experienced a "noticeable performance decrease" since first installing and using the card, to the point where it resembled my previous 580 GTX.

I put this down to a possible CPU bottleneck, however I would be astonished if an i7 950 (stock clock) was bottlenecking gaming performance in games such as Metro 2033 and Diablo 3...

This may explain the shere lack of 600 series GPUs on the market :/

I for one hope that this is fake. I've already passed my 580 on to my brother.

Edit: Degradation denied by Nvidia

 

Update on the case. Looks like the rumor was BS from some Nvidia haters

Read more here:
Nvidia Denies Plans to Recall GeForce GTX 600 Due to Performance Degradation - X-bit labs


@Zalgradis:
Check out the thread at overclock to keep yourself updated. I don`t think anyone have experienced any performance degrade like you have there yet from what I can see. Anyhow, here is the thread
[VC] NVIDIA To Recall all GeForce GTX 600 Series Cards

 

i can only say that" already familiar with Adaptive V-Sync technology causing stuttering problems."
compleate bs in my case after started using this i have set BF 3 to High preset
its opicit it tok away all my stutering i had before my cards run cooler as well
i can get a 2 fps drop during big maps and allot of explosions other wise stedy 60 fps love this new function

 

you like that feature...get a load of that virtu mvp feature. running that will net you like a 30 to 150 percent increase in frame rate. literally. will allow for netbooks to game just as fast as you are now. haha. got it with my new motherboard. wondering when this feature will be fully implemented in notebooks.

 

Hi, is there a way for us with older cards to limit fps 60 or any other universally without turning VSYNC on.

 

i have heard that virtu is very buggy not working like it should
Sweclockers they complaynin allot about virtu would link you cant remmember excact review but there is a couple where they bring up virtu
but if its working for you good on you

yep get the 3xx.x beta driver and you will get adaptive vsync
with adaptive you can set it to 60 or 30 fps

 

For what it's worth with regards to temps and noise -I started with an Asus notebook with a gts 360m that doubled as a hairdryer when under load. I went to an M15x with a GTX 460m that was much quieter but got very hot when overclocked (to the point where you would have to shift it about on your lap, but my child sireing days are over so that didn't matter and I loved the build and performance of that notebook) I now use the M17x R4 and 7970m and it is a good bit quieter again and much much cooler than the M15x. I can sit gaming with the card overclocked and at full load next to my other half while they watch the telly oblivious. By the way BF3 maxed out at 50fps + looks amazing

 

now nice mental picture with u gaming ur way through BF3 MAXXXED OUT on an OCed 7970M while the rest of the family is happy in television oblivion haha

 

yeah, i dont go by reviews...sorry...i have to try it out for myself to see what it really does...and just like any and everything on the market today. 98 percent of anything marketed is buggy. that is a given.

but using that software and while working..will take you from a vantage gpu score of 20k to like 36k...gonna have to say that's working. and that goes for games.

but once it gets completely figured out....

there is a beta for skyrim using your igpu for our laptops...you can give that a go to see what it can do. it wont be anything like in the dt world, but none the less...it makes skyrim playable using on board graphics.... just ask mr fox.

 

heres another m17x r4 review with the 7970M (not by notebookcheck):

Google Übersetzer

cheers

 

Don't know if anyone has find out about this..

From updated Clevo P150/151/170EM Manual:
Models A & C:
NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 680M PCIe * 16
Video Card
4GB GDDR5 Video RAM
Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible

 

4gb would be nice, i had a gtx 560m 3 GB and was very stable/reliable. Handled high overclocks nicely, i could imagine how well 4gb would be.

 

The card obviously has 4GB vRam. Clevo wouldnt put it there, if it hasnt.
btw. It must mean that GTX680m is really close now.

 

This is the big reason why I'm waiting a bit before getting my PC. It's all about bang for your buck for me. If the GTX 680m is more expensive but worth the price, I'll choose that over the 7970m.

 

How can you know? We've got no information regarding the 680M whatsoever..

 

true, more ram doesn't necessarily mean faster speeds.

 

4905 score on 3dmark 11 and i think it is a real score.

 

I did not question the actual reality of the score.

I questioned the power of the 680M.

 

This thread has become so long that it has trouble displaying correctly in Tapatalk 2. Perhaps it is time for a new thread?

 

The 680M could maybe be a bit faster than the 7970M but I really don't think that it will be the 'best bang for the buck" ever.

 

To hell with Tapatalk. Use the Chrome browser for Android..

 

With AMD's pricing structure on desktop GPU's at the moment , I wouldn't be too sure about that

 

But here we are talking about the Mobile GPU's only and if you look at the last generation (500M vs 6000M) we can expect something similar I think. And that would be a better 'bang for the buck' for AMD.

 

7970m is about the same price as the 675m, some retailers have exploited this to their advantage...making a couple extra hundred.

So no,the 680m will cost more.

 

Why? Desktop models with Fermi (400-/500-series) was more expensive than VLIW from AMD (6000 series). Now with 600-series they are priced equally with desktops.

Atleast be open for the possibility that the same could happen with mobile Kepler as well

Pretty bad comparison. You are looking at 675M which is a Fermi, not a Kepler. You don`t know if the production cost for Kepler will be the same as Fermi.

There are 3 possibilities like I see it for GTX 680M since they are listing it as 4GB:
1. Based on GTX 680 and sliced in half. That would score around P4900, maybe up to 5000ish
2. Based on GTX 670 with either the same core count or a hundred or more under. That would score more than 7970M, everything from P6400-P7300 most likely.
3. Based on a unreleased GK106 GPU. Score unknown

 

@Cloudfire:
Of course there is a really small chance that this could happen but I think that the AMD mobile GPU's will be just a better' bang for the buck'. I at least hope that the 680M will be more powerful than the 7970M because I'm pretty sure that it will be cost a lot. That's because i'm looking forward to buy an Alienware M17x/M18x with the most powerful GPU option available, so believe me that I'm hoping for a better GPU from Nvidia for an affordable price.

 

A GK106 GPU actually completely fits the rumored GTX 680M specs.

GTX 660
GK106, 256 bit, 768 CUDA cores, available in stores July/August (same date as some retailers say the GTX680M will come out)
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So what does that mean ? Will it beat the 7870/7970m ?

 

Pretty up on par with 7970m, maybe a bit faster (I would say 2-3%) due to a better driver support.
If the 680m will be based on desktop 660/670, that's it.

 

And most probably it won't be just 2-3% more expensive.

 

If it really is based on the GK106, it should have the same MEH performance over 7970M as previous Fermi had over 6990M. Rumors are saying that the GTX660 is competing against 7870. 660 is rumored 130W so the expected 75-80W for this GPU could be all true.

 

blasphemy! of course it will be cheaper than the amd card

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well i'd rather pay a couple hundred more bucks for quality Nvidia than having a recall on a 7970m card . Nvidia can still win over people that have pre-ordered the 7970 since shipments are delayed for a recently found defect. now is the time to release the 680m

 

So I should make plans for a 680M!

 

I'm confused. Can you clarify on 'MEH performance'?

 

5-10% better than the 7970m.

 

Yeah something like that. Not even remotely amusing, if its 100W.

However if its 75W, then big kudos to Nvidia. That will be my next GPU then

 

Looks like peeps taking numbers from air here.
Ill join the group, but my prediction is solid P5000 and not much more.
In best case its almoust on par with 7970M, but not faster.

At least my predicion is based on leak and not air.

 

Nvidia is more expensive than AMD. Globally.

 

compromise: air + leak = air leak! *farts*

yep i know, definitely time for me to go to bed now....

 

Hmz, a 680M based off the 670.... People will be REALLY hoping it has voltage control because that could be a crazy beast.

 

I'm going to HEAVILY modify my ntoebook cooling system if it comes with voltage control! Imagine the possibilities ..................

 

Here is something I found on an asian forum posted today. Someone posted the P4900 score picture and this guy replied:

This guy apprantly have seen the MSI 680M score, the 680M we have seen in the MXM picture:

 

Here's hoping

 

Crossing fingers, please nVIDIA shine your way out of AMD's throne

 

P6000+ and 75W...droooooling

please please please make it happen o great god

 

Most of you may have already seen this, but apparently there is a blackscreen problem with existing 7970M cards and all shipments have been recall :/

It's being discussed in this thread. Whether it is actually credible remains to be seen, however although i do feel for customers who have eithe rreceived systems with a POSSIBLY faulty card and those who have to wait even longer for their systems, it has given Nvidia a chance to reenter the market -_-