AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

Oh god.. why not dear lord, a stable OC is the best thing out there.. if you know what I mean

 

i would run up to max oc bench then find the stable max in games then run it back to stock or what ever would alow me to max BF3 and some other games leave it there untill i need the extra power in games or software and that way it would give me ca a extra year or two running games at max ofcourse increasing the oc after the games get heavier to run

 

Because of the already lowered voltages in notebooks, temperature is king so as long as you keep that under control you are A-OK.

 

Yeah I know. Its just that I never overclocked anything in my life. I like to have everything set up without any additional software that I have to use.

You still have to enable overclock each time you reboot right? Or start a program for the OC to take effect?

 

It would be nice if OC on a computer was as easy as it is on my phone haha

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You can either have a program quiet start at boot or you can flash the clocks to lock them in.

I typically find a 100% stable overclock using a program and then flash it.

 

that's my man OC is slightly like tuning your car... not the same, but can be seen as the same thing with the newest cars in Japan which are horsepower tuned by laptops using certain software and engine type..

but that's another story.. what I'm trying to say is OC is for the sake of getting more power than you pay for! -okay sometimes not even I understand what I write...

 

I see, that flashing sounds pretty neat. Not shure if I ever need to overclock a GPU thats already powerful though. I think 7970M/680M will satisfy almost everyone

 

You have to make sure that you flash a stable OC as you run in to some real trouble other wise haha

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Yeah, I would keep a good eye on the temperatures etc for a looong time before taking the step to flash

 

Yeah don't flash experimental clocks lol.

 

Is flashing gpu clocks like flashing a bios update

And what's the current status of the 680m

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if you you need some help just give a shout its easyer then it sounds to flash just hope there be a update to nibitor for 680m card so hear up the first one to get a 680m make a vbios copy via nvflash jump over to mvktech.net post it there or just pm me a download link and i willl do it so Mavke and the boys can intergrate that Vbios to the Nibitor software

 

Another notebook listed with GTX 680M. This time its the 2GB version.
It says they have 300 in stock but probably with the 675M. But good to see more listing it. I think we are getting close to release

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@Torment: Thank you, I will if I ever plan on going that route. I appriciate it

 

Right now I am in the waiting list for a 7970m.... as far as I am concerned AMD screwed up big time! As I get closer to the June 11th date, I may plan on switching my order to the 680m.... Hell it's Summer and I waited this long already......

 

@Torment thanks for the info i plan on getting the 680m anyways as i want a 3d screen

 

I just configured it and it costs 18,269 yen which is £149.68. Why is it so cheap in japan but I have a feeling I am missing something big and will get egg on my face :wink:

 

don't blame AMD, the chips are fine.
clevo is to "blame" here... but that has been discussed already.

 

If you honestly think Nvidia will put that card on the market for +$200 over the 7970 when it's performing at your speculated +15% your head really IS in the "clouds", look at the previous 580m pricing.......

 

A chinese Clevo reseller have just chimed in:

Delivery for 7970M in the Clevo`s: 21 and 22 June
Release date for 680M in the Clevo`s: July

He will release the results of his internal testing of the 4GB 680M in early June. Probably after the presentation of 680M at Computex.

 

580M costed $200-$300 more than 6990M earlier, and 580M was only 5% faster than 6990M. Are you suggesting that they will price themselves out of any potential buyers and go for $400+ over the 7970M instead?

Please don`t compare Fermi against Kepler

 

that's chinese yuan, 680M=675M+$630

 

LOOOL

Here is another one from them
http://www.rabook.com/goods.php?id=104
2x7970M over 2x675M: 5800 chinese yuan
2x680M over 2x675M: 8800 chinese yuan

3000 difference between 2x680M and 2x7970M, but thats for two cards, so one 680M is 1500 chinese yuan over 7970M, which is +$236 over 7970M. The difference over 675M is indeed 4400($693) for a single 680M.

So:
680M will cost $236 over the 7970M at Rabook

 

so we pretty much got the same pricing as last generation: AMD cards go for 400-500 bucks whereas Nvidia wants 700-800 $. business as usual, no surprise there

 

Haha looks like I need to get good at haggling over the price to get the 680m when I order

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We have 3 prices known now. Confusing as hell. Lets pick the average lool, $230 more for the 680M.

$180 more for the 4GB 680M through Monster Notebooks (Turkey)
$236 more for the 2GB 680M through Rabook (China)
$279 more for the 680M through PCSpecialist (United Kingdom)

 

i bought my 485m's from China saved about 250$ on each card
got the cards for 1000$ with heatzink's fan's sli cable in the states they wanted 750$ per card and transport on top of that wille from China it was incluaded

 

so that config cost £1856.60 then so it costs the same in china.

 

yup, business as usual.

Have we seen any performance bench leaks that are credible? All we have right now is that the 680m is 768cores and scores 4900 in 3dmark11

 

slickdude80 do you play the latest games on your laptop. How do you cope with such a small hard drive

 

he has 448 gigs of space....

 

ha yeah, i actually totally oversized my new HDD when i got it @1TB, since all my data put together just amount to like 332gigs (as long as u dont count in my 1.93TB movie/tv show collection ). that said, ill wait till the prices for 512GB SSDs drop sufficiently, then one of those puppies should be enough to satisfy all my needs

 

I still have about 250gigs free lol...i guess at some point, i might upgrade to a larger drives, but i have no need currently.

i do play the latest games...currently have Crysis2, D3, BF3, Skyrim, Metro 2033 and witcher 2 installed

 

Since we are on the topic of hard drives are there any hybrid drives that fit in to an m17x

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The only hybrid drive available is the Seagate Momentus XT. It's regular sized(2.5", 9.5mm), so it fits in most laptops, including the m17x.

 

Thank I'll look at I was asking as I saw that a lot that I looked at were 2.5" but were thicker than normal but i might just get an ssd

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I'm having a really big headache choosing between the 120GB Kingston HyperX 3K or 120GB Intel 520. King is faster, cheaper & 3 year warranty but Intel has a good rep for reliability with 5 year warranty.
Help! Which one do I get???
Is king reliable??? Does it give black screen, blue screen and all those unforeseeable dreadful errors???

 

I was hoping I could make a decision between getting 675m or 7970m, but now I'm even more confused....

 

whats there to be confused about haha. the 7970m is where to go unless u want to wait for gtx 680m

 

I would not go for 675M now that we are so close to 680M plus we already have 7970M which is way ahead of 675M.

Kingston HyperX series is actually doing pretty good in terms of reliability and such even though it have Sandforce. HyperX have great customer ratings at newegg btw. But like always with Sandforce, the smaller capacity drives are doing better than the bigger drives, 240GB and above
Intel would be my personally choice if I should get one of them since Intel have always been pretty good with SSDs, plus they say themselves that the 520 series should offer the same reliability as the 510 series, which worked almost flawlessly.

Look under the "Feedback" column

Kingston HyperX 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139601

Kingston HyperX 240GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139600

Intel 520 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167093

Intel 520 240GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167086

 

But 120gb intel 520 is more expensive than king and it's older
I really want 120gb king but reliability is the only thing I'm worried about.

 

The best price/performance drive on the market right now is the Crucial M4. Plus it is 100% stable. i wouldn't even bother looking kingston or Intel because 1) kingston is a sandforce 2281 drive using 25nm nand (google that) and 2) intel drives are too expensive when there are alternatives in the market like crucial M4 and Samsung 830.

 

Older? its newer. Not that it matters, they use the same controllers and both give the same flaws that concern Sandforce SSDs.

I would go for the Samsung 830 or the crucial m4, if you can afford the intel 510 is a good choice as well.

 

Why? What is wrong with sandforce 2281 on the Kingston HyperX 3k?

 

He just said google it.

 

120GB Kingston HyperX 3K reviewed as pretty good.

Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB SSD Review | KitGuru

 

Have you googled it yourself?

Although M4 is reliable no SSD is close to the reliability Intel has had, including its SandForce drives, it all boils down to which firmware it uses. A classic example would be even OCZ vs. Intel, they both use sand force but Intel has a rate of 0.59% while OCz has 2.93% with crucial being 2.25%.

The current top performance drives are Kingston HyperX and Intel no matter which way you look, its been proven in tests. Crucial is simply in the middle with a good pricing per GB.
Sources btw:
anandtech
tomshardware
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I don`t get why people are always playing the performance/price card all the time. Me personally would pick Intel and Samsung drives before everything else.

Sandforce controller are more prone to BSODs and stuff like that, but Intel along with LSI (the company that bought Sandforce) have ironed out A LOT of the previous problems. Just look at the ratings I gave you. Intel 520 is doing just fine. Same with HyperX. BUT proceed with caution if you plan on buying either of them because I don`t think they have removed all problems with Sandforce yet.

Here is a lolworthy look at how the early Sandforce drives with old firmware did:
45% unhappy customers, atleast

Vertex 2
Newegg.com - OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Compare it with 520/HyperX ratings I gave you and you can see that they have come a long way with Sandforce now

 

I didn't say Intel was unstable because they use the sandforce controller. I said that they were too expensive. They have obviously tweaked things (i.e., slowed things down for stability)

because i've had my share of SSD's and because i've had issues with several drives, i don't care if they have improved things, I don't trust Kingston, OCZ, Mushkin, Corsair, Adata, Patriot or any other drives that use the sandforce 2281 paired with 25nm nand.

Now when sandforce 2281 is paired with more expensive 32nm or 34nm nand like OCZ Max IOPS, Corsair pro, Patriot Wildfire etc, they are more stable. I have a patriot wildfire in one of my desktops and it is completely stable. BUt the stability is reflected in the price difference

 

Nope you are sorely mistaken, the same problems that plague Sandforce, will plague it no matter who makes the firmware.

Reliable Drives

Intel 320, 510

Samsung 470 and 830

Plextor and the Corsair using the Marvel controller.

The rest is the rest