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    AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by x32993x, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. evoandroidevo

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    So much good info coming out of y'all haha
    But anyways if I'm getting my m17x with a 750gb hhd and the 32mb caching mSATA ssd I plan on buying a another ssd later would a 64gb one be fine for everything? I do plan on putting the os and my most played game on it
    From what I see y'all are saying I think I'll get a Samsung 830 64gb as its only 80-90$ on newegg

    Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
     
    evoandroidevo, May 31, 2012
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  2. misterhobbs

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    Can we get back on topic, please?

    I love reading the 680m speculation and will probably decide my course of action to hold off on anything with the 7970m no or wait for the 680m. Do you think we'll get a lot of benchmarks and reviews starting June 5th? Or, is it going to be like CeBit all over again with nothing worthwhile coming out of it?
     
    misterhobbs, May 31, 2012
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  3. evoandroidevo

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    Why not anyone got anything new on the 680m

    Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
     
    evoandroidevo, May 31, 2012
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  4. Cloudfire

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    From one of China`s biggest Sager reseller

    Probably because the NDA ends at Computex because Nvidia will show off the performance of 680M there?
     
    Cloudfire, May 31, 2012
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  5. misterhobbs

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    I hope they do. I feel like the longer they wait the more they may lose sales to the 7970m. Even if the actual launch is still a month or so away, if they release details/benchmarks it will garner more interest and possibly snag some sales away from those trying to decide between the two. Well, that is unless the specs and performance isn't great, but based off the speculation of those smarter than me, I doubt this will be true.

    Furthermore, if they release the details soon they could cause a lot of Clevo people to go for the 680m simply because of the frustration with the 7970m delay.
     
    misterhobbs, May 31, 2012
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  6. ObserverJLin

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    Notebookcheck updated their 7970m crossfire results (frames per second) in games here.
    Looks like it's performing better than a desktop GTX 680 in games.
     
    ObserverJLin, May 31, 2012
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  7. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    that was actually expected :) but awesome to have it confirmed now :D

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  8. fantomasz

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    fantomasz, Jun 1, 2012
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  9. long2905

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    Thats great and all and I would be pretty excited if it turns out to be true. But how did the GTX 675M manage to get 17k vantage stock?
     
    long2905, Jun 1, 2012
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  10. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    14% better performance, 80% more expensive :rolleyes:
     
    p1n0yBaLLeR, Jun 1, 2012
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  11. fantabulicius

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    There are more factors to consider, like overclocking potential and also data, since only vantage is not indicative of a final say.

    But anyway i think 10% was expected...
     
    fantabulicius, Jun 1, 2012
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  12. jaybee83

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    tru that, normally id expect 15k, 16k max

    HM series compatibility being the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR OF ALL! :p ;)
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  13. Cloudfire

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    Awesome. So totally worth the $200 extra. Not only will it beat 7970M by 15%ish which is very good, but you also get Optimus that works and the great driver support from Nvidia. :cool:

    I really hope that this is true.
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  14. DJStarscream

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    Do the 7970m still have no PROPER drivers? What are the Dell ones then? Are we saying that once some good drivers come out, games will run much better and be graphically richer than they are now and smoother?
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 1, 2012
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  15. jaybee83

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    haha, sorry to say this but cloud ure such a total nvidia fanboy :p
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  16. Cloudfire

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    Because I think 15% over 7970M, driver support and Optimus (without the problems Enduro have that drags the dedicated GPU down) is worth $200?

    There are so many AMD fanboys in this forum that somebody gotta be the counter weight :p

    mkay :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  17. YodaGoneMad

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    Heck, even if the 680m was exactly even with the 7970m I would pay $200 more just for the Nvidia features.
     
    YodaGoneMad, Jun 1, 2012
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  18. Cloudfire

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    Yeah. I mean, look at the 580M, it costed $250-300 more than 6990M and was only 5% faster, yet Nvidia sold tons of them.
    I can only imagine how much they will sell of the 680M if its 15% faster than 7970M
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  19. SlickDude80

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    very interesting...i'll be watching closely
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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  20. jaybee83

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    in the end, i dont really care, i just want to make ONE next-gen GPU upgrade in my HM machine :) no matter if its red or green :p
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  21. ObserverJLin

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    What does 675m get in reality in Vantage? How is 675m right now? Is it reliable and doing well in games like Crysis 2 & BF3?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 1, 2012
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  22. Supranium

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    Dont be too exited. Thats very sucpicious results.
    Also i would like to see 3dm11 gpu score.
    If 15% over 7970M holds true, then 200$ higher cost is not too much for nvidia lovers. Each of its own. Nvidia cards have mostly been higher price anyway.
     
    Supranium, Jun 1, 2012
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  23. Nick

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    How do the results look suspicious? Blue Mobility seems like a fairly legit company: BLUEMOBILITY
     
    Nick, Jun 1, 2012
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  24. jaybee83

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    check two posts below that :p in general the 675M is doing fine, u can max out almost all games with it.
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  25. jaug1337

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    I sense a happy jaybee83 if the 680M turns out to work in the HM versions :D
     
    jaug1337, Jun 1, 2012
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  26. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    the other thing is that amd in the past have always run better in 3dmark than they have in games whereas nvidia usually runs better in games than in 3d mark.
     
    aduy, Jun 1, 2012
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  27. SlickDude80

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    i think he was referring to the high 675m vantage score
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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  28. Cloudfire

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    If the scores for 680M are true we basicly have a GTX 580 for notebooks :eek:
    LOL :D

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    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  29. Cloudfire

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    They probably got the 675M scores from Eurocom or something which have done their own tests on the newest GPUs

     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  30. ichime

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    Those scores seem legit once the laws of physx are applied...
     
    ichime, Jun 1, 2012
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  31. Cloudfire

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    Thats cheating right since PhysX doesn`t matter in 99% of the games? I do wonder if the 680M is with PhysX or not. From that list it seems that 675M is the only one with PhysX while 670M and 660M is without if I compare with Vantage scores without PhysX.

    Bah guess we will have to wait and see
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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    not buying into any of that till someone who knows what they are doing...has one of these cards in hand and is posting to this forum.
    it's way to many times we have proved the masses and the manufactures to be wrong. and that's a given fact.
     
    Johnksss, Jun 1, 2012
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  33. Cloudfire

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    4 days more until the truth...
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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  34. City.

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    I thought Physx was used a lot of games, I mean isn't diablo 3 and starcraft 2 using physics? Or am I talking about something else..?
     
    City., Jun 1, 2012
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    Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2012
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    Metro 2033, Batman, Mafia 2, Alice and Metro Last light (!!!) use PhysX. Not many

    Pretty cool that the Metro games use it though :)

    First time I`ve seen PhysX in action (Yeah I`m slow :p). More games should support PhysX imo

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  38. w3ak3stl1nk

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    Secret World is on the list also for a less metroish type of game
     
    w3ak3stl1nk, Jun 1, 2012
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  39. nissangtr786

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    If I turn physx on will the fps go down by a lot? I play it at 60fps now at 960x600 before I was playing at 1280x800 at 35-50fps with very high and yes on everything but my brother lowered the res down as he likes it at 60fps lol. If I turn on hardware accelerated physx on how much fps will it go down as I saw on steam page that Batman ac takes gtx cards to run physx.
     
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  40. City.

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    Oh right I remember all that! When nvidia first endorsed PhysX it was supposed to be there "flagship feature", and I remember using PhysX with MirrorsEdge, was a nifty feature but probably something that wasn't always noticeable.

    Actually mentioning that game I'm surprised its not even listed, it was one of the first few games that came out with it and the game wasn't even that bad considering EA was involved.
     
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  41. fantabulicius

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    Mirror's edge is on the video, what do you mean by not listed ?
     
    fantabulicius, Jun 1, 2012
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  42. Kevin

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    I would highly prefer an Nvidia card, but $200-$250+ over the 7970M is pretty steep. Shame on me for hoping they'd ever start pricing competitively.

    At that premium, I'll hold out for AMD's second 2012 mobile release.
    You might lose half of your fps, if not more, depending on how often the PhysX based effects kick in and what their intensity is.
     
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  44. Kevin

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    Nvidia will manage to pay a couple of developers a year enough money to get them to use PhysX, but none just decide to use it because they find it cool or interesting. It's an abject failure.
     
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    It is a cool idea, and some developers do use it because they genuinely want to use it (Borderlands 2 for example).

    I think the main problem is that almost no one is willing to sacrifice some large amount of performance for SLIGHTLY better physics while the CPU sits there doing nothing most of the time. Do I really care if the cloth ripples slightly more realistically, or the water is more lifelike, at the cost of XX% in performance? Not really, even in games that support it I have never used PhysX, it just seems silly, the CPU isn't doing anything anyway, make it do the physics stuff.
     
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    Wouldn't it cool if nvidia partnered with Intel so Future igpus could sli with their cards ? Haswell is told be a major increase in performance,i wonder of the possibilities.
     
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  47. jaybee83

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    would def be a serious competition to AMD´s hybrid CF ^^
     
    jaybee83, Jun 2, 2012
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    I'm in the same boat as you. I was planning on the 7970M until I heard about all of this HM series rubbish about not being able to upgrade to the 7XXXM series of AMD cards. If I can't put in the 7970M, but I can put in a 680M, then I will.

    I'm a little concerned as well though, as I've heard mixed stories regarding whether or not I can put an nVIDIA GPU into my HM because my motherboard will only accept an AMD GPU. Some people say only the first batch are affected, some say they all are, I need to find out the truth so I can check out my options.
     
    Wallzii, Jun 2, 2012
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  49. nissangtr786

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    When is maxwell out, this is a big troll article:
    Nvidia’s Kepler and Maxwell barely beat Moore’s law | SemiAccurate

    If maxwell is as fast as nvidia say it is then 33w cards would be able to perform as well a gtx 680m. Crazy if you think of it like that. I might not even upgrade till then. Bring back 16:10 screens as imo laptops look strange with 16:9 my brother has an a500-1gl which he got in 2010 and it was far worse to use then my 5930g and only the cpu was a big difference for games but the gpu was similar gt330m 4gb ddr3 1066mhz ram and 500gb. The only good thing the 16" screen was very good quality screen and looked so good watching stuff on or playing games but you had to get used to its form factor as it is a lot wider then a 5930g and a lot less in height.
     
    nissangtr786, Jun 2, 2012
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    Well this is interesting:

    From the staff of One.de (a notebook retailer) at the notebookcheck forum:

    Comment: Notebookcheck recieves the 680M next week to review!
    Comment: They are hindered by NDA so they will put the 680M up once the NDA ends (after Computex)
    Comment: A bit weird message but either they already have the 680M in stock (hence available) or the 680M is available on the internet now (other places than one.de)

    http://translate.google.no/translate?hl=no&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.notebookchat.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D35598.0
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 2, 2012
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