AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

yes with my overclocks im running numbers much higher, but thats for a stock 680m

 

Tentative Gaming Performance Comparison
(Using NVIDIA GTX 580M/680M Results)

GTX 680M
(NVIDIA i7-3720QM)

GTX 580M
(NVIDIA i7-980X)

Percent
Increase

Aliens vs. Predator

59.7

39

53%

Civilization V

65.6

48

37%

DiRT 3

69.5

43

62%

Far Cry 2

115.6

79

46%

Lost Planet 2

57.9

33

75%

Metro 2033

56.2

40

41%

Stalker: Call of Pripyat

96.4

50

93%

StoneGiant (DoF Off)

67

46

46%

StoneGiant (DoF On)

36

25

44%

Street Fighter IV

165.5

138

20%

Total War: Shogun 2

97.8

59

66%

Witcher 2 High

43.7

26

68%

Witcher 2 Ultra

20.1

10

101%

Average Performance

73.2

48.9

50%

Overall, using NVIDIA’s own numbers it looks like GTX 680M ought to be around 50% faster than GTX 580M.

 

The 680m looks good enough for me but I'll wait to buy for the price to come down some tho

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Its way ahead of 7970M on the newest games, Metro 2033 and Battlefield 3. Gotta be something about the Keplers and DX11

15% faster than 7970M based on the games that can be compared. I`m sold

 

That hurts. Do you think the 7970M performance would improve over time as the drivers mature, in this case?

 

I would really wait for some more benchmarks by people in the community as well, as this is still a very limited release of results, btw that is a crazy overclock HalodGod, do you run that 24/7? and how stable is that config.

 

THose benchmarks don't wow me like the official nvidia press release did. our oc'ed 7970m's are going toe to toe with it.

At least there is choice on the market now...albeit $300 more. I'm sure Alienware will charge much more than that for this card

owners of oc'ed 7970m's are getting 50+fps in BF3 ultra. take those benches with a grain of salt.

I will confirm or disprove those numbers when i get my 680m. i will bench and push the card to its limits so its more of an apples to apples comparison.

and FYI, my stock 7970m unigine score at those same settings was over 60fps...so it was actually higher. I wonder why they didn't post 3dmark scores

 

Of course. Both will

 

I wasn't talking in general. When I said "in this case", I meant with regard to your comment about the FPS in games like Metro 2033 and BF3 (which happen to matter to me the most) being noticeably higher with the 680M over the 7970M, due to DX11 and PhysX/CUDA ?

 

According to the current results, one would believe the GTX680m would be the way to go for future proofing, but i would still like to see how far the nvidia card can be pushed as a good overclock will be the deal breaker for me as well as most people. That is why i am holding off my order for my 7970m until we get more results.

 

Yes 24/7 , I'm pretty sure I pull ahead of a stock 680m easily at my clocks , and I'm still at low voltage, I'm glad we are seeing some massive power from the green now

Def keeping my 7970m till I get some 8 series action

 

Guys do remember that overclocking is baked into the 680m scores now, since nvidia found a way to make it automatic.

 

yes that is true because of the boost...but i'm interested in how far it can get pushed

 

You mean GPU Boost? Yeah it would be cool to bench the 680m without GPU Boost enabled if that's possible.

Also out of the games I'm most interested in Crysis 2's fps/percentage difference between 7970m & 680m.

 

overclocked 7970m is scoring higher in Crysis 2 ultra

 

so now overclocking is legal?

 

Does that mean that we cannot raise the base/boost clocks?

 

So, it's like last generation 6970m/6990m vs 580m? Faster but have to debate if it's $300 faster...?

 

Happy to see the sight of green's response to the 7970M, but I'm not trusting anything based on Nvidia's own benchmarks which is sadly what the AnandTech article is. Hoping to have more clarity once someone here can get their hands on a 680M and make sure there wasn't any GPU boosting going during Nvidia's bench run (We all know that there was). Then a true comparison between stock and OC'd 7970M v. 680M.

 

By how many fps?

 

we dont' know yet. We do know that the 680m has a boost feature, so I assume that those numbers were with boost active.

unfortunately yes. But i will bench it anyways just to satisfy my curiosity. Oc'ed 7970m goes toe to toe with a nvidia boosted 680m. We don't know yet what the numbers will look like when people take the 680m to stable limits

 

Like it mattered in the first place

 

OMG are you people serious?? GPU boost with Kepler are the way it operates. It is not overclocking. It is stock clock. In that case you might as well call the turbo boost in your Intel chip for overclocking haha
You people never stop to amaze me

 

And AMD processors also have automatic overclocking so they're on par with Intel in that respect, but comparing a stock 7970M to a 680M that's overclocking itself... thats kind of misleading, imagine at stock the 680M is actually slower than the 7970M?

 

I had a desktop 680 and yes it does limit the oc, and didn't click no where near as high as my 1350/7200 oc on my desktop 7970s, same may apply here

 

How is that misleading? ITS THE WAY IT OPERATES.
Are you going to call them liers because they made their GPU smarter? If you overclock the 7970M by 10%, you also need to overclock the turbo boost of the 680M by 10% to get equal comparison.

Yeah I suggest you give them a call and ask why on earth did they make their chip with turbo boost. That will give them a good laugh

 

If you want to compare something, do it fairly is all I'm saying. Overclock the 7970M as far as it can go. Considering GPU boost can go as far as 15%, if it was operating at max during the benchmark runs and only had a 15-20% lead over the 7970M I'm disappoint. If it wasn't GPU boosting and has that lead, I want that card, and I want it yesterday >.>

 

I know prices will come down but at $300 more for 15% better performance thats $100 for every 5% of increase in performance.

On the positive side I'm happy for cloud fire that they finally released it and for people who want a 120hz screen that want a fast card.

It seems as though now that we "know" that the performance is very similar to 7970M that it will come down to price and features/support.

 

I think you're failing to understand exactly what Kepler dynamic boost is. The Nvidia chips can still be overclocked.

 

I know it can still be overclocked further.

 

eh, I'm just glad this thread actually has a 680M to compare with now

 

Well with all said, we, the notebook users, got pretty impressive GPUs this generation, wether we buy red or green. Some people prefer Nvidia, some prefer cheaper AMD cards. Its all good.

Cheers guys. I`m going to bed

 

alot of people will dish out alot of $$$ for that extra performance, but for what game..?

 

I'm getting it as I want the 129hz 3d screen but font want a renamed 580m or when ever the 675m is

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When it comes to hardware it's not about what you need - it's all about what you have

 

Does it matter? GPU boost barely does anything anyway.

 

The 7970m runs with much higher frames when OC'd comparable or better than the stated (I should say, speculated) frames that the gtx 680m claims to achieve. Nvidia (even ATI, ooops AMD for that matter) releases statements with every flagship release and some turn out to be true, most other inflated lol. From what I've been reading the 680m runs on some sort of boost itself (in other words, it is overclocking anyway), so that's not base-clock speed performance we're seeing imo; I think it will give us the same amount of performance as an OC'd 7970m, in some cases noticeable better (maybe) and if one thing's for sure, it will cost way more than the 7970

To me, the only real heart-breaker (as a person who ordered the M17x R4 with 7970m) would be if the GTX 680 turns out to run more than 10% better and performs well with 3D @ 1080p. Otherwise, I think I will be more than happy knowing I'm getting ridiculously high value with AMD.

And yeah haha I was an nvidia fan back in the day... 6600GT I <3 you lol served me well! Looks like AMD is making a little more sense now, especially for those of us with smaller pockets And as for that, I'll try my best to OC my 7970m and get the most out of it. Time for my experience with AMD to begin! Now only if that darned m17x would just get here already....

 

It's like the same as the 580m vs 6990m. The 680m is slightly better and the 7970m is a better value. I wouldn't feel bad about getting a 7970m because not only do you save some money, you get to play around with the GPU a month earlier.

 

The gtx 680m is without turbo boost!!!Look at the Nvidia Homepage!
So i think we can overclock to 820-835 mhz on stock
voltage.Memory should be able to go from 900 up to
1100-1200 mhz.So the gtx 680m is much,much and much faster than overclocked hd 7970m!
lol Nvidia win again!

 

Yeah, I don't think the GPU boost should even be considered here. It's a minimal increase. Meanwhile, the GPU can be overclocked like normal and there's no reason to believe that the 680M won't overclock quite well.

 

Hello!
The gtx 680m don`t have turbo boost
Get it?

 

guys this doesn't even accept question:

IF 680m indeed has 1344 cores, it will crush pretty much anything, forget about 7870, 670 is on par with 7970, so it will be crazy (this doesn't mean 7970m is a bad gpu)

I still cannot believe how the hell both companies pulled this off, 28nm is indeed pure magic

 

At most i think the guys at anandtech were seeing a 5% increase thanks to GPU boost, and an average of 3%, also please keep in mind that GPU boost is still a very pre mature technology, the usual overclock scores should still apply, when they are available.

Nvidia GTX 680M Kepler laptop GPU announced | The Verge

 

Take a look at computerbase.de

 

It says there that it boosts if temperature allows it

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The GPU boost on the desktop version works in the same fashion, it uses steps(small overclocks) up to a point until it reaches it's Quoted TDP/Temperature threshold and then downclocks from there.

 

Hey guys,

XoticPC has the GTX 680M available on their website for the Sager NP9170 and NP9150 models.

Price......drum roll please......$495!

 

ridiculous!

 

Well we kind of knew it would be $200-$300 more than the 7970m.

 

Yeah but the performance increase is marginal, at best.