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    AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by x32993x, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. smokinokie

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    Obviously I just purchased the 7970, but I've been mostly a sideline observer here. It just seems like Cloud has contributed about half of the posts to this lively thread, mainly in defense of Nvidia.

    ....
     
    smokinokie, Jun 17, 2012
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  2. ObserverJLin

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    Don't worry, we all know next years Haswell CPU is gonna be da bomb. Tick Tock ;)
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 17, 2012
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  3. Nick

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    Read your first post. You said that most people who are complaining about an AMD video card don't own one.

    And, no I haven't only had one AMD card with a problem, more like 30. Of which around 30%-40% had annoying problems. Not outright faulty, just quite annoying.



    Defending something doesn't make you a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who has an obvious bias to a certain product, and won't recognize any faults with that product.

    Sent from my HTC One S
     
    Nick, Jun 17, 2012
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  4. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Yeah, I`m probably gonna sell the notebook that I`m buying, next year anyways :p

    I`m hoping someone makes the watercooled notebook we saw 3-4 months ago. Hopefully someone buys the patent and implement it. Would love to own one as my gaming notebook that I will be mainly using home on my desk anyways, so no splishy splash while carrying it around :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 17, 2012
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  5. ObserverJLin

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    Where they gonna put the reservoir?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 17, 2012
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  6. GTRagnarok

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    It wouldn't splash around anyway as it would all be contained within the loop without any air.
     
    GTRagnarok, Jun 17, 2012
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  7. Cloudfire

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    Its all in the notebook. Didn`t you see the Alienware video? Here it is :)

    Inside Asetek Labs - Liquid Cooling an Overclocked Alienware Laptop - YouTube

    Oh ok, yeah that makes sense, they are probably full of water. Cool :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 17, 2012
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  8. GaryO

    GaryO Notebook Geek

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    Water ??? Lets think outside the box and go with liquid nitrogen, mmmuuuhahahaha :p :D
     
    GaryO, Jun 17, 2012
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  9. ObserverJLin

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    Sounds like a cool idea. Maybe that will be the norm in 3 years.

    Yeah and with cold fumes coming outta the laptop exhausts. XD
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 17, 2012
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  10. Tyranids

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    ey guys let's not muddle up the thread anymore, eh? they'll lock it permanently if they ahve to come clean it up again. how about we wait for some solid info and more official tests to be conducted? sounds fair to me.
     
    Tyranids, Jun 17, 2012
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  11. Arestavo

    Arestavo Notebook Evangelist

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    Similar performance compared to the 7970M - Benchmark
     
    Arestavo, Jun 17, 2012
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  12. jaybee83

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    waaait for it....waaait for it..... *waiting for cloud to storm the thread and come up with some explanation why the 680M just CANNOT have the same perf. as the 7970M* :rolleyes:

    but anyways, we already had those numbers from the computex right? :)
     
    jaybee83, Jun 17, 2012
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  13. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    MEH I don`t care anymore :nah:
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 17, 2012
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  14. HaloGod2012

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    i would hope it outperforms the 7970, then amd will actually move their a** and get some drivers out to make the 7970m shine. GPU wars are the best, tons of new cards and more drivers being released
     
    HaloGod2012, Jun 17, 2012
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  15. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    This is getting pretty annoying. He hasn't done that. Cloud predicted the 680m would be 15%, that was before benchmarks. Calm down and stop acting like an 8 year old.

    I don't give a/care a crap which one is faster, I'll never own either. But, the way all the immature fanboy jump on Cloud because of his predictions is extremely rude and annoying

    Sent from my HTC One S
     
    Nick, Jun 17, 2012
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  16. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Now THAT's the optimistic thinking I've been waiting to hear! ;) Yes, absolutely! Competition always helps encourage increasing product quality across competitors..
     
    Prasad, Jun 17, 2012
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  17. misterhobbs

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    I agree. I'm getting a 7970m but won't be upset at all if the 680m performs better. Competition and choices are wonderful and benefits us all.

    Edit: Prasad beat me to it.
     
    misterhobbs, Jun 17, 2012
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  18. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah. Unless ofcourse AMD sees this as a reason to push out a newer, more powerful card faster, while forgetting the 7970M completely! :eek:
     
    Prasad, Jun 17, 2012
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  19. jaybee83

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    fanboy, sure... looked at my sig lately@current config? :rolleyes: just that i looove how some people defend their favorite color to the death, coming up with all kinds of theories / excuses / strategies / clever ideas all based on some hypothesies that make their team look good without bothering to wait for actual PR-unbiased benchmarks. but of course, pointing that fact out usually brings out the "youre a fanboy"-rants again :rolleyes:

    btw, dunno if this has been posted yet:

    Computex-Video: Geforce GTX 680M und Battlefield 3 bei Nvidia

    BF3 on 1080p res max details running on 680M (i think thats a clevo P270WM?) in the range of 30-40 fps. unfortunately they dont have specific numbers but the interviewed/present company rep was said to have confirmed that fps range.

    cheers
     
    jaybee83, Jun 17, 2012
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  20. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    that doesnt seem right, also it has only 2gb of ram, i thought all of the reports showed 4gb, also wasnt the p270wm cancelled or something like that. also i can get around 30 fps with my 485m and everything maxed in bf3 the 680m should be doing much better.
     
    aduy, Jun 17, 2012
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  21. Arestavo

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    Depends on the vendor - it can have up to 4GB.
     
    Arestavo, Jun 17, 2012
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  22. Kevin

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    What is left to wait for? We already know that the 680M's performance, regardless of what exact percentage, doesn't justify the price premium over the 7970M.
     
    Kevin, Jun 17, 2012
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  23. Tyranids

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    just some people actually getting the cards in some machines and running games, benches, temp readings... all that. And, if/when Nvidia releases some drivers for it (possibly before the 7970M, possibly not). There's a lot to wait for honestly.
     
    Tyranids, Jun 17, 2012
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  24. 5482741

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    I also want to know how it overclocks, its power draw, and whether it supports 3840x2160 like the other mobile Keplers.
     
    5482741, Jun 17, 2012
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  25. Tyranids

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    Yes yes, power draw, heat, and overclockability are definitely important. In that order. To me at least.
     
    Tyranids, Jun 17, 2012
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  26. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i dunno what you guys have been hearing lately, but i still think this is the only valid article about the 680m out of all of the ones i have read
     
    aduy, Jun 18, 2012
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  27. Supranium

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    I dont consider myself as AMD fanboy, but if saying anything good for AMD is being handled in this forum as a fanboyism, then so be it!
    Nevermind that i have already had GTX680 and i still have 2 notebooks both with nvidia cards inside.
    Im still a true AMD fanboy.
    Oh wait...
     
    Supranium, Jun 18, 2012
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  28. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    guys ive been an nvidia user from long time. Ive repeated alot in the past that i had AMD cards as well, namely 5850 xfire, and it wasnt pleasant at all.

    But ive got my 7970m now, and apart some games that are not running as they were on nvidia (Rage, but i fixed it, althought i cant use AA), i can say that everything i throw at it, it works just fine.

    Its rough around the edges, thats true, but i must give credtis to amd. Their drivers matured alot since last time i had the pleasure, for now im happy.

    This just to say that even if you are an nvidia fanboy, but short on budget, give the 7970m some thoughts, and some love.
    I think youll not be disappointed.
     
    Kingpinzero, Jun 18, 2012
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  29. core²

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    core², Jun 18, 2012
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  30. HTWingNut

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    In any case, even if 680m is 10% faster, for $295 price difference I still see 7970m as the winner unless you absolutely must have the "fastest" mobile GPU on the market (a title that will last all of 3 months at best).
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 18, 2012
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  32. Kevin

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    Nvidia is always so slow to officially support the top-end GPU. Is the 675M even in there yet?
     
    Kevin, Jun 18, 2012
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  33. DJStarscream

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    Return M17x R4 w/ 7970M for one with 680M or not? :/
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 18, 2012
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  34. SlickDude80

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    omg DJ, you've been stewing over this all weekend and you haven't decided yet lol

    Here is what i see:

    680m will probably be somewhere like 5-10% faster out of the box and if you stay with Alienware, they will probably charge $3-400 more for it over 7970m. However, still so many unanswered questions like will the 680m really overclock etc... 7970m's are overclocking very well in general.

    And given your situation, you will laptopless until late July, Maybe longer given the build time of the machine, shipping and 680m availability.

    The 680m will probably be the champ so if that is important to you...however, in the fast paced world of vid cards, its reign on the throne will probably be only for a few months until AMD comes out with an response. THis is the nature of the beast. It really comes down to does your current laptop do everything that you want it to?
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 18, 2012
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  35. DJStarscream

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    I know man, tell me about it - I'm usually really decisive, too. But according to a StevieJones his rep says the card could get released on 21st June, hence my predicament lol.

    How much do Alienware's typically depreciate over about a year (in perfect condition)? And are they realistically easy to sell on second hand? If, say, I only lose £400 - £500 over the next year (has 2 year warranty so that'll add value) I'll just keep the thing.

    Oh and at an overclock, how well is Witcher 2 performing for you?
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 18, 2012
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  36. SlickDude80

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    If it is gonna help you sleep at night, return it and get one with a 680m. And 3-4 months from now, it will all be irrelevant when the 7970m refresh happens...and then the 685m comes out.

    My point is you'll never win. You just have to get whatever plays your games at a level you're happy with.

    But you have to do what is going to help you sleep at night :p

    Witcher 2 runs maxxed (no uber sampling) at my gaming clocks @ 950/1400. It essentially has allowed me to turn on depth of field and motion blur which i couldn't do with the 6990m
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 18, 2012
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  37. DJStarscream

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    How often do 'flagship' GPU's get released then? Quarterly or something? If anything, I'll just wait until the card after the 680M get's released and get a girl to buy me one for Christmas >.<

    Maxxed at what FPS dude? :)
     
    DJStarscream, Jun 18, 2012
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  38. SlickDude80

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    ^^ 45+

    tenchars
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 18, 2012
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  39. Torment78

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    guys all of you that live in europa should check out bluemobility.pl
    they have great prices ther goal is to have some of the best prices in europa
    if you mail them for seperate gpu they will give you a price since they dont have any non build ones for gpus
    and remember poland is in eu so no extra taxes
     
    Torment78, Jun 18, 2012
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    Come on dude. Atleast be fair.

    GTX 675M is supported with the Verde 304.48 Driver
    GTX 680M is not, but its not even out yet.
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 18, 2012
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  41. aduy

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    wow you do know that the 675m is just a 580m, so its just as supported as the 580m would be... duh.
     
    aduy, Jun 18, 2012
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    Nice find?
    I already sent them email. :)
     
    kolias, Jun 18, 2012
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    Linus Torvalds not to happy about Nvidia :p
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 18, 2012
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  44. Prasad

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    Hail to the king, baby! :D
     
    Prasad, Jun 18, 2012
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  46. Tyranids

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    Actually that was hilarious. Watch the whole thing though, it's pretty interesting in my opinion.

    *twiddle thumbs* Any updates on 680Ms? Ship dates perhaps for those that may have ordered them? *twiddle more*
     
    Tyranids, Jun 18, 2012
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    ObserverJLin, Jun 18, 2012
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    jaybee83, Jun 18, 2012
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  49. DdudeACE

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    Probably going to go with a 7970M over the 680M, primarily because of price, on my next build.
     
    DdudeACE, Jun 18, 2012
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  50. ObserverJLin

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    How did you find the mobile driver? I could only find the desktop driver from it's official website.
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 18, 2012
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