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    AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by x32993x, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. ObserverJLin

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    Yeah why don't you wait till next year for the 7870m so you can play all your 2011/2012 games @ 100fps.
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 22, 2012
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  2. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    Or you could just build a gaming desktop with at least a GTX 670 and call it good. OC'ing it will get you near 100 FPS on BF3 ultra preset.
     
    p1n0yBaLLeR, Jun 22, 2012
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  3. nissangtr786

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    I am waiting for maxwell if nvidia really think its gonna be as powerful as they say. I reckon nvidia only boasted the multiple time performance improvement on kepler and fermi maybe on one part of the card as in processing performance like arm but reality is gaming performance should improve by 50% with architecture improvements.

    However if the new xps 15 has a deal on the dell outlet to good to miss I will get that as my current laptop cpu is so weak for the latest stuff. I was so close to buying one last year as the deals when sandy bridge came out was crazy 60% off rrp price.
     
    nissangtr786, Jun 22, 2012
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  4. gh130

    gh130 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does adobe after effects cs6 support all gpu acceleration features on either amd 7970m or 680m?? Even by adding it manually to the support list
     
    gh130, Jun 22, 2012
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  5. xMAR99

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    Results:
    Source: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M Gaming Notebook Unveiled | NVIDIA,GeForce,GTX 680M,Gaming,Notebook,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M Gaming Notebook Unveiled
     
    xMAR99, Jun 22, 2012
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  6. Arestavo

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    Arestavo, Jun 22, 2012
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  7. Meaker@Sager

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    They ran vantage and manually enabled physX, thats retarded as much as running 11 with tess off.

    Also all tests without AA.

    Its a laundry list of poor benchmark practise.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 22, 2012
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  8. Johnksss

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    just like what everyone was trying to get away with when running the 6990m
    minus turning on physx
     
    Johnksss, Jun 22, 2012
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  9. AhPek00

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    thats just plain rude dude
     
    AhPek00, Jun 23, 2012
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  10. gh130

    gh130 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does any one knows if adobe after effects cs6 support all gpu acceleration features on either amd 7970m or 680m?? Even by adding it manually to the support list
     
    gh130, Jun 23, 2012
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  11. evoandroidevo

    evoandroidevo Notebook Evangelist

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    Dude you asked that one page back wait longer before reposting

    Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
     
    evoandroidevo, Jun 23, 2012
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  12. mitsuhide

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    HD 6990M max OC = HD 6870 default = P4400 points
    GTX 580M max OC =GTX 560 TI default = P4900 points

    HD 7970M max OC = HD 7870 default = P6600 points
    GTX 680M max OC =GTX 670 default = P8400 points ??


    Radeon HD 7970 GHz edition review
    [​IMG]
     
    mitsuhide, Jun 23, 2012
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  13. Arestavo

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    Not from the tests done so far - I've seen ~6200 (going from memory) as the score so far. Also, many users are getting over 7K with an OCed 7970m.

    In crossfire, and a mild 50MHz OC, I managed over 10.7K on a 3610QM.
     
    Arestavo, Jun 23, 2012
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  14. fantabulicius

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    Fear not peeps in a week or so we will finaly know the current performance with the drivers available.

    Then another span of time for the offcial drivers for both cards.

    And another span forour peers to OC both cards hell and back.

    And then finally we will know.

    Maybe.


    What we do know is that the 7970m and the 680m perform similarly and still the 680m costs 300$ more.
     
    fantabulicius, Jun 23, 2012
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  15. satchmo67

    satchmo67 Notebook Geek

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    These 12.7 drivers are producing some interesting results....
    O/C 950/1450, Tess ON:
    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P8194 3DMarks

    O/C 950/1450
    Tess OFF:
    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P9338 3DMarks
     
    satchmo67, Jun 23, 2012
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  16. ObserverJLin

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    OMG how did you get that high a 3dmark11 score? What did you did you do apart from OCing to 950/1450??? And what are your temps?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 23, 2012
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  17. satchmo67

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    Yeah the framerate in graphics test 1 was spurious....which kind of invalidates the test. I'm not sure if this is a driver issue or not...
     
    satchmo67, Jun 23, 2012
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  18. SlickDude80

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    ^ that has to be a glitch
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 23, 2012
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    test loose's sync and usually black screens at this time..then once test finishes..it starts the next test normal.
     
    Johnksss, Jun 23, 2012
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  20. ObserverJLin

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    Maybe you got a 7990m test chip which was mistakenly shipped with your laptop lol. GTX 670 in a laptop. Drool.
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 23, 2012
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    satchmo67, Jun 23, 2012
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    kolias, Jun 23, 2012
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    Johnksss, Jun 23, 2012
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    Something is bugging out in his test, look under the test details and point yourself towards graphics test 1. It shows the test resulting in over 65,000FPS. Obviously there is something wrong here, and these numbers are invalid.
     
    Wallzii, Jun 23, 2012
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  25. satchmo67

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    The crashing behaviour? No it just kicked out into the error message. Crashing almost exclusively occured at the end of the combined test (the final one)
    The successful test had no black screens either.
     
    satchmo67, Jun 23, 2012
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  26. Zymphad

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    Is it really that important to you that you have most powerful laptop gaming rig? Instead of just going with what you can afford, what you like and being happy? Your satisfaction on your purchase choice that dependent on a few benchmarks?

    I don't understand it at all. If that was the case, why don't you just build a portable shuttle system that would likely be more powerful and cheaper...
     
    Zymphad, Jun 23, 2012
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  27. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    guys, magical driver improvements are impossible (it maybe 10% better in a particular game because of code optimization, but it won't grant 10% overall performance, like ever..)

    7970m and 680m scores almost 6k as of now, it is more than enough, let's not start dreaming :)
     
    maxheap, Jun 23, 2012
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  28. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    In the other news, MSI Afterburner has been updated to 2.2.2:

    Changes list includes:

    • Increased upper allowed power limit for power limit adjustment slider on some extreme editions of NVIDIA GeForce GTX 600 series graphics cards
    • ATIPDLXX.DLL is no longer included in MSI Afterburner distributive
    • MSI On-Screen Display server has been upgraded to version 4.3.4. New version gives you the following improvements:
    o Fixed framerate calculation for DirectX10/DirectX11 applications, which actively use presentation testing during rendering (e.g. Max Payne 3)

    EDIT: 2.2.2 version doesnt like 12.7 betas, even if you enabled unofficial overclocking+eula, clocks are reporting 0.
    EDIT 2: 2.2.1 version works fine. So stick with it unless this gets fixed in someway.
     
    Kingpinzero, Jun 23, 2012
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  29. Cloudfire

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    Cloudfire, Jun 23, 2012
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    Kingpinzero, Jun 23, 2012
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  31. fantabulicius

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    Why is it so crazy amd to beat nivdia in some way ?

    This is a good thing...

    It means the next interation will be better.
     
    fantabulicius, Jun 23, 2012
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  32. Tyranids

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    Well it wouldn't make sense for Nvidia to release an inferior card. Whoever releases last should end on the most powerful chip.
     
    Tyranids, Jun 23, 2012
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  33. Kingpinzero

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    No its just a shame to see the 680m so underperforming, if notebookcheck scores turns out to be legit. I guess we will know in 1 week.
     
    Kingpinzero, Jun 23, 2012
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  34. .:aK:.

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    Ivy Bridge and GTX680m review posted: "The machine scoffed at Just Cause 2, earning 79 frames per second at the display's native 1920 x 1080 resolution. Battlefield 3 ran at a brisk 44 frames per second on the Ultra setting, eclipsing every gaming laptop we've tested to date. I'd assumed the machine would be laid low by The Witcher 2, but that proved false: 45 frames per second on Ultra quality, though there was a bit of stuttering during a few sections of the opening sequence — the scene requires quite a bit of heavy lifting, graphically-speaking, but simple tweaks to a few of the settings (or dialing down to High quality) would get things running like a charm. "

    Alienware M17x R4 14,518 PCMARKVANTAGE P21,876 3DMARKVANTAGE 23,914 3DMARK06

    Crysis at very high settings was just short of smoothly playable (38fps)

    Guess we will have to wait for more GTX680m laptops to confirm these.
     
    .:aK:., Jun 23, 2012
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    Like I said yesterday, going from 20% over 7970M to 2% worse than 7970M is pretty bad. Even when looking at it from a marketing standpoint.

    I still don`t believe the Notebookcheck test, and won`t until I see a different review from a different site.
    We already have seen the Alienware performing much better than the Sager

    But enough of that. Lets just wait :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 23, 2012
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  36. nissangtr786

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    It look like pitcairn wins on performance per watt
     
    nissangtr786, Jun 23, 2012
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  37. Torment78

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    definetly wins Bang for the buck
     
    Torment78, Jun 23, 2012
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  38. ObserverJLin

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    I am behind the intel here. What do you mean 7970m in a AW performs much better than a Clevo (Sager)?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 23, 2012
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    Not 7970M but 680M

    I`m talking about TheVerge Alienware review getting 33% more FPS in Battlefield 3 than Notebookcheck did with the Sager.

    Alienware got 44FPS
    Sager got 33FPS

    7970M got 36FPS so the 680M get more FPS, and that is a little more plausible since Nvidia have always been far ahead of AMD in Battlefield 3. Not 4% worse than 7970M like Notebookcheck got. It doesn`t make any sense
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 23, 2012
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  40. SlickDude80

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    The benchmarks on notebookcheck aren't leaked. They are official. And both the 7970m and 680m benches were done on a clevo

    Like the 680m's desktop cousins, you won't be able to overvolt this card via software. you will need a soldering iron to bypass Nvidia's safeguards.

    The last remaining question is will this card overclock. We will only find this out when cards get into NBR members' hands
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 23, 2012
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  41. Zymphad

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    @slickdude80 and if the 680M proves to be 10% faster on benchmarks, are you going to sell the 7970M?

    Just looking to gauge how important having top gun on benchmarks are to people. This thread is just weird with ego-clashing.
     
    Zymphad, Jun 23, 2012
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  42. SlickDude80

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    10% is not enough...the 7970m clocks like a monster with performance approaching inbetween desktop 570 to 580 performance

    It all depends on whether or not the 680m overclocks. For me, this is the deciding factor. If the 680m overclocks well, and offers even 5% improvment, it will be in my laptop instead of the nbr marketplace
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 23, 2012
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  43. jaug1337

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    Yes I'm well aware of that, but the question is HOW well it overvolts.. really puzzled by this

    also NBC doesn't even mention how they did the benchmarks, nor what driver they used etc so yeah ..
    And ofc overclocking of the 680M is the deciding factor by far.. I'm just afraid it'll reach unbelievable temperatures when OC'd.. I hope I'm wrong
     
    jaug1337, Jun 23, 2012
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  44. Cloudfire

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    I just don`t get why everyone is so hooked on overclocking the GPUs. :p

    Notebookreview should make a "King of overclockers" list or something. That should keep you guys occupied for a while :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 23, 2012
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  45. nissangtr786

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    I reckon 7970m wins as I was shocked by the low power consumption. I reckon kepler is slightly worse raw performance per watt.
     
    nissangtr786, Jun 23, 2012
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  46. fantabulicius

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    Well overclocking is basically free bonus performance, no extra $ and is usually easy to do.
     
    fantabulicius, Jun 23, 2012
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    I`m kinda curious about heat and power consumption of 680M as well :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 23, 2012
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  48. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    the stable drivers and the ease of installation alone from Nvidia is already worth it for me... gonna try to get one as soon as clevo provides a bios for upgrading from the 7970m.
     
    p1n0yBaLLeR, Jun 23, 2012
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    I am curious about heat too.
     
    nanias, Jun 23, 2012
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    As am I. It'd be nice if we could see this kind of power a bit cooler.
     
    Tyranids, Jun 23, 2012
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