AMD C-50 CPU and 6250 GPU performance(Acer 522 review)

why is my startup the same as windows starter? I have already upgraded to ultimate

 

Alexisapin,

What do you mean? The applications in the "startup" menu folder, or something else?

Aside from Ultimate's greater capabilities, were you expecting fireworks at start up?

 

Dont you mean the boot screen?

I still have Vista Boot Screen even though I am using Win 7. Does not really bother me though since it does nothing anyway

 

Yes, I'll make sure i get the C-50 one .

But, I dont understand what are you said about "better framerates for bad reason". Is that mean, the graphic become more blurry than 522 one?

 

i think he means that the games might run better cause they have no choice but to run in sub-hd resolutions, due to the screen limitations. i run the more intensive games at subhd anyways for the added performance even though my screen is 720p native. it upscales well enough.

i've been travelling for the last 3 months and its been great to get into a hotel with a flat panel and be able to hook this little monster up. watch some movies and even play a little gears of war.

 

So, since 1015b doesn't have HD screen, it means better fps? That's a relief.

I still unsure about TF2. Just saw the TF2 video on 522. It got 10-15 fps on 24p server, much worse on 32p server

 

If you are talking about the boot up screen, that was never dictated by the version of windows you ran. The "pretty" boot animation requires a minimum resolution of 1024x768 to display. Since the screen in the AO522 is only 1280x720 (i.e. not "tall" enough) it only shows the basic one. And really, it's just a boot screen anyways, who cares what it looks like since you so rarely see it even?

 

So that is the main reason lol

Nice Info

 

HD screen is better..
ati 11.7 has been released, make a review than...
downclock upd: i settled 0.925 vid for 1ghz and 0.8 for 800mhz...super stable not loss of performance..

 

ive been using this notebook for 2 months now,, and my battery wear level is in 8% ..im using this notebook as a desktop replacemnt my question is..Can i leave the charger on even if it is fully charged?
does this have an bad effect on the battery?

 

I tend to take out the battery once it already charge and just put it in when I am going to use it.

I think reduces battery tear. I'll check mine later.

Currently trying the brazos tweaker

Hmmm currently using AMDfan's profile but using brazos tweaker I cant seem to change the NB VID. small problem.

I'll try the Phenom tweaker next time or unless brazos tweker gets an update on the issue

 

it doesnt matter if its plugged or unplugged when fully charged, as modern day laptops stops charging a battery and directs all its power on the laptop itself after reaching 100% and wont be activated til the battery goes down to about 95%.

-just a few things to keep in mind to get the most of your battery.
the initial life of li-ion battery is 3 years. whether you abuse it or not.
[its advisable if you charge your battery 40% or below]

-whenever you're running cpu/gpu intensive programs, have it plugged in. using the batter with those kinda programs damages it in a way. due to the laptop drawing its power quickly.

-avoid exposing it to extreme heat. as it damages the battery.
that means, remove your battery when the fans kick in at max power.

- if you have a program like HP Coolsense, use it [fan controller]

there's more into it. just search the forums for more info on how to take care of li-ion batteries.

 

shadowfate, yu cant change NB....change only p0, p1 VID and or divider
i read somewhere NB column = gpu ..nothing else work..its locked in bios...
brazos is latest version....

 

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Oh okay that explains it.

Looking at stock VIDs I was surprised that they used HIGH VIDs. we are now several steps lower with no performance issues

 

it seems that is high on purpose,also low fan profile to quickly burn the netbook today it strategy
anyone tried hp cool soft?
also there is some presure to unlock bios so maybe soon our babies wil run @ 1.5ghz

UPD: hp cool soft is not working on acer..not installing...

 

AO522 comes with HD screen resolution whereas the ASUS 1015b does not (1024x600)

 

so looks like the guys at bios mods have figured out how to mod insydeh20 bios' and that just happens to be the one acer uses on this netbook. I've posted a request for a hack to unlock all advanced options in the bios if they are available. If he is succesful we'll be overclocking and undervolting the gpu and cpu on command! lets see if we can push this little beast to e-350 speeds without melting the chip

 

amdfan ..that will rock, its possible iam sure, if not hidden menus, than hardcode unlock , i was looking into bios file in hexedit but its beneath my skills
also 10x divider is max of this apu? or its soft locked too? than fsb is only chance to overclock..

 

I have this beautiful machine! But I have a PROBLEM. And I need your help!

I have installed 4Gb and windows 7 ultimate x64. Everything went perfectly. I have installed the latest ATI drivers 11.8 preview and for some reason the highest resolution I can select is 1024x600...

Please help!!

 

Why not go back to the real 11.7 drivers instead of test/preview/unfinished drivers?

 

its preview, not finalized for each chip...some drivers miss some resolutions..notbigdeal

 

Hi,

I have tried to remove the 11.8 and clean with drive sweper. Installed the ones from the Acer website but no luck. Did the same with the 11.7 and still no luck.. just 1024x600....

 

In regards to the individual who can't get native resolution on their Acer 522 due to installing 11.8 preview.

I have 4 gb of Ram, Windows Ultimate 64 and I am having no issues whatsoever with my native resolution after installing 11.8.

I have noticed good improvements with silent hill 4 and it seems snappier though there is always the possibility of the placebo effect.

On a different note, the undervolting feature is brilliant and has reduced the
temperature considerably. Interesting that my initial P0 VID before tweaking was 1.875 and P1 was 1.100. I not sure if the decimal point is out of place.
Anyhow these initial numbers seem very high versus the numbers that others had posted. So, perhaps I saved my net book another year.

Can't wait for overclocking to appear as the initial logic was that overclocking this APU chip within the present 522 configuration would cook the chip due to
lack of a proper cooling design for a more powerful chip. Well, no longer an issue.perhaps.

Well, captain obvious over and out.

 

I wonder at this point if there are some "special" models of the AO522 that only supports up to 1024x600?

 

I wonder if the problem is the fact that my monitor is labeled in the resource control panel as GENERIC PLUG AND PLAY.
Do yours are the same?

 

this isn't that hard.
- uninstall the video controller and reboot, don't feed it anything, just let 7 reinstall it. Does it fix the issue? if not, try this next step

- grab 11.7 or .6 or whatever - any package that is different, DO NOT RUN the .msi or .exe but instead extract the driver files to a folder.
Open the device in Device Manager, hit the Driver tab and 'Update Driver', point it to the folder you stashed the backrev drivers in. bully through the warnings etc and install that, reboot.

 

tried my webcam finally and i can't get it to work...no sign of it on device manager either...any suggestions?

 

you must install camera driver-from acer site, than update driver from webcam acer crystal eye soft ..
best driver seems 11.5b sofar, 11.8 should be good when it comes out
thats strange yu miss native res. try resete factory defaults from ccc...something was messed on instalations...

 

ok I did try to:

1) format and reinstall win 7 ultimate x64 with the graphic drivers that comes with the windows update. No luck: max res 1024x600

2) format and reinstall win 7 ultimate x64 and I followed the steps as per cognus suggestion. No luck: still max res 1024x600

3) Format and reinstall win 7 ultimate x64 and installed the graphic drivers from the acer website. No luck still max res 1024x600

4) Did the same with windows starter x32. Nothing. Max res was 1024x600

at this point I wonder if I have a "special" model of the AO 522 that supports just 1024x600? On the back of my laptop is written: ACER ASPIRE ONE 522-C5Dkk.

searching on google "522-C5Dkk" there is another user with the same issue....

any way to override the resolution settings?

 

"Problem" solved, your screen is in actuality only 1024x600.

Looking up that specific C5Dkk sub-model on Acer's site AO522-C5Dkk | Product Model shows that it has a WSVGA display. Which as you can see on wikipedia there, WSVGA = 1024x600.

Sorry you went through all that installing and uninstalling so many times needlessly. >< Your screen is working at the right resolution that it was designed for. It just isn't the same screen in other 522 models have in other markets.

 

I want to cry... I have bought the only low res ao522 in the world...

What if I replace the lcd with one with higher resolution? Is it enough or the graphic card itself is locked?

Thanks for ur help!! I really appreciate it!

 

I have seen on ebay the screen of the 532G for sale which is 1366x768 and 10.1".

U guys think it will work?

 

return it to shop...if its new,
yu should google le ifyu can use custome lcd..it should work but who knows

 

I'd sell it on ebay and buy the 722 model.

BTW, is there a thread like this one for the AO722-BZ454 and functionally-identical '722 models??

 

Hi Krishna,

can you please remove my email adress from your earlier post?
Everyone with questions about the BrazosTweaker can write something here or send me a PM.
Furthermore on the project page, you can find a HowTo under Wiki.

Thanks a lot,
witteks

PS: Donations are also very welcome

 

sorry man, i deleted email adress...but your email is on your page anyways..thanks for your work!
can yu tell us if it is possible to tweak gpu, or something else?
and if it is possible to control fan on this netbook..
thanks

 

The email shouldn't be fully visible anywhere. Only after a recognition question. This is done because of web bots, which are looking for full email adresses.

I'm working on tweaking the NB/GPU voltages and some users on different systems than mine, reported it to be working.
I'm also still looking into getting temps,fanspeed and voltages from an embedded controller, but this stuff is not documented at all and is likely different from each vendor.

-witteks

 

wow, thanks, i deleted two emails adr. of yours..ok i understand, sorry
yes fan controls maybe diff. or they all use reference design who knows..
and do yu think its possible hack bios to unlock cpu settings?
your app is working 100 perc. without issue so far...

 

Has anyone had any luck unlocking the bios options?

Also I notice the latest bios has C-60 support...

 

Phew, managed to read the whole thread... AGAIN... (ok so I skimmed through the part I read before). That search really should be fixed...
Anyway, great work with the brazostweaker Unfortunately I can't put my voltages as low as some of you... but 0.9v seems stable so far (I still have to let orthos do a burn-in test before I lock it in place with the service though) and it already makes quite a big difference in temperature.

I've upgraded my 522 by now with 4 GB and a crucial M4 128 GB SSD, very fine performance with those upgrades... havent gotten around to games yet, or to installing eclipse again, but windows and firefox fly by at amazing speeds (considering the CPU in this little machine).
I've also reinstalled windows, ended up with a 32 bit windows 7 enterprise, mainly because I didn't really think about which version of windows I was installing, just grabbed a DVD I had laying around to make a usb stick to install from, didn't realise it was 32 bit until later. I'm not going to bother installing again just for that though... It runs great anyway.

Drivers were no problem since I backed them all up first... the only thing I wonder, has anyone who has reinstalled windows gotten the on screen display part working again? That is, the overlay you get on the default windows install when you do things like turn wifi on or off, change the volume, hit caps lock... All the FN-combos work for me, but I don't get the overlay anymore. I installed the epower management, but the other installables don't seem like they're useful at all. I'd rather not try them all to see if one of them might enable the OSD... The drivers I just installed by having windows look for drivers in the DRV folder (except for graphics, I installed the newest one from amd.com for that).
So, anyone have any idea if you can get OSD working?

 

Heh, sorry guys, I did actually search beforehand, but as always you find the answer shortly after you decide to ask for help
The OSD is enabled once you install acer's launchmanager application. It's in the DRV folder (Dritek Launch Manager (Acer) if you used the eRecovery management to create backups) or can be downloaded here under applications:
Acer Support: Downloads & Support Documents - Netbook / Aspire One / AO522

 

Okay.. i just get one of those pretty good netbook's , but i faced some problems. Mm actually i think it's software problem. Last night i read the thread but somehow don't understod how to fix the problem with Catalyst Control Center. It seems that works but only in Process in Task Manager, when i tried to open user interface it's not poppin anything. I just ask for some quick guids , i think the problem maybe is that my OS is Windows 7 32bit and somekind of a Tiny Os that means not a fully copy of Windows. If one one can help i'll be so thankfull.
P.S. Sorry for my bad english ;(

 

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for such a great program. My acer 722 ran ridiculously hot at stock settings, and undervolting makes it run a bit less ridiculously hot.

I've run into a bug, though, figure I'd mention it in case you were unaware. I can't currently undervolt the nb/gpu at all. Trying to reduce the default 0.9/0.8 pops up an error message "Invalid P-state settings: P2's VID is greater than P1's". My c-50 doesn't have a p2, and reducing p2's vid anyway causes the program to crash with an unhandled exception error.

Anyway, hope this can be fixed in a future release. Thanks again for the utility.

 

I just heard that yesterday from another user too. Thanks for letting me know. I believe, I know where it comes from, but I need to verify it first. Problem is, that I have a E-350, which uses P0 .. P2. I'll try to fix it soon, since obviously a lot of C-50 users of BrazosTweaker are out there.

Btw, don't expect too much of NB/GPU voltage changes. I was just today finally able to prove to myself , that undervolting of NB/GPU is really working. We are probably talking about 0.5W reduced power there, which is why its hard to see.

-Sven

Actually, you can try to add an issue on the project page, than you will be notified, if I have fixed it.

 

Thanks for the reply. Hey, I'll take any (minuscule) power/heat reduction I can get!

 

Hey, I finally bought ASUS 1015b (I know, but it's not different). After upgrade it to 2gb, try to play TF2 with Chris FPS config, with average fps ~40 & never below 30. Hooray!

Might trying BrazosTweaker later.

Hey, Perricoach. Can c50 handle New Vegas?

 

i bet if you tweak TF2 settings little bit more..yu can get 60fps with vsync easyli....
also in CCC choose mipmap setting to Performance, use 2xmsaa and HD Res.

 

Thanks for the Brazo Tweaker.

I undervolting 1000 Mhz@0,875V
500Mhz@ 0,85V

I think my Temps 10-15 degree colder.

A migthy Tool


About the Acer C60 Bios----> What is the sense of realeasing it now? There is no C60-Aspire out? Isnt it?

 

Okay.. i just get one of those pretty good netbook's , but i faced some problems. Mm actually i think it's software problem. Last night i read the thread but somehow don't understod how to fix the problem with Catalyst Control Center. It seems that works but only in Process in Task Manager, when i tried to open user interface it's not poppin anything. I just ask for some quick guids , i think the problem maybe is that my OS is Windows 7 32bit and somekind of a Tiny Os that means not a fully copy of Windows. If one one can help i'll be so thankfull.
P.S. Sorry for my bad english ;(

 

Think about it, Acer can't release one until they have a BIOS that supports that APU now can they?