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    AMD C-50 CPU and 6250 GPU performance(Acer 522 review)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Shadowfate, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. krishna

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    nope i dont have those games...i have BF2 , ser. sam 2d, morrowind, fifa2008, nfs MW, ....and others are on my old post :)
     
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    I'm certain that the C-60 is more powerful than the c-50. There's plenty of example better WEI score, 3DMark , Passmark, etc. It's true bench mark is not always reliable but it's a START.

    Now there's plenty of other aspects to the equation. For an example RAM, OS, Hard drive and windows optimization.

    If we have 2 system that are the exact same and one with a C-50 and C-60, the C-60 will out perform the C-50. It's not always that case because computers have multiple components hard drive ram etc. Some ship with different hard drive and type of ram (the other problem is defect). Although usually the issue is optimization of the computers (Windows system). So check there first :). Drivers, Defrag, Registry, Etc etc
     
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    i didnt notice any difference there...seems the same
     
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    man yu are doing benchmarks in windowed mode?!...thats not good, yu should get more fps in fullscreen...also why the turbo mode is changing so dramaticly? so turbo mode use 2 cores... c60 must be faster than... :)
     
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    Do any of you know of a thread here or for that matter ANYwhere on the web that covers the gaming setup/performance factors for E-350/450 based notebooks? would like similar value as this thread hath. kudos to you all
     
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    hey mates, anybody know how to run crysis on this netbook? all i've got was a black screen after launched (as i thought it would display logo screen) then it crashed...i've tried compatibility or run as admin, and neither work
     
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    Crysis? yeah right. Don't even bother.
     
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    Read couple pages back. There's a guy who got same problem
     
  11. Jehu_McSpooran

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    Yeah, I'm that guy. Still having issues. I might try back on starter from the restore partition just to make sure all the drivers are ok, then go back to ultimate 64bit.

    There was another guy who posted here that has some vids on youtube that show these machines running crysis 2. Dunno how he got it working though
     
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    I'm installing StarCraft 2 tonight and I might try Devil May Cry 4 tomorrow :)
     
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    seems a nice driver
     
  15. soulzero

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    Installed, haven't notice much of a difference yet. Have you?

    It runs WoW and Devil May Cry 4 like the original 11.11. I might run a 3dmark06 to compare both of them later. What's the main difference Krishna.
     
  16. krishna

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    also yu may wanna try this, mrhaandi's crypto corner: injectSMAA
    and this 8.93 is latest prototype RC driver for upcoming 12.x series of drivers...
    i surely belive more this than atis "whql" :) if yu find something bad use ati feedback :)
     
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    crysis 2 maybe...it could run, but laggy...
    i've seen an acer 522 benchmark that show crysis run great (25-30fps)..but i dunno how to get it working...geez
     
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    StarCraft2 is unplayable after the 1st mission. It's CPU intensive games and the CPU can't handle too many units. The graphic card is fine :) i don't recommend that game on the c-60 or even the c-50
     
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    Running the 8.93 November 29 Driver: 3Dmark06
    3DMark Score 1735 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score596
    HDR/SM3.0 Score771
    CPU Score763
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon4.61 FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest5.31 FPS
    CPU1 - Red Valley0.24 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley0.38 FPS
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight7.24 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze8.17 FPS

    Notice the C-50 CPU Max on notebookcheck was only max: 658 Points
    AMD C-50 Notebook Processor - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    While an acer tablet with the c-60 score max at 751, so cpu score of 763 isn't that bad :)
    I'll run it again with the 11.11C driver tonight and post that update too :)

    11.11c performance driver form guru3D
    3DMark Score1829 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score634
    HDR/SM3.0 Score817
    CPU Score769
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon4.96 FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest5.6 FPS
    CPU1 - Red Valley0.24 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley0.39 FPS
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight7.59 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze8.75 FPS

    Results: 11.11c gives me a mark of 1829 vs 1735 quite a bit of change :), ~100 points
     
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    how the devil did you do dat??? impressive - "most impressive"...

    you wanna give me a cookbook for my E350??? :D

     
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    The driver should help too, try the 11.11c :)
    AMD releases Catalyst 11.11c performance driver

    It says it increase performance from 3-7% for skyrim and other optimization. 3dmark06 is base off of direct x 9c so not sure about the direct x11. From my Mark score it's about a 5.1% differences and increase in performance.

    I took someones recommendation on a driver but you never know until you test it to see if it's true or just word play :)
     
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    i know this sounds dumb ... doesn't the cc package include the directx hairball? I've been accustomed to loading it separately but always wondered
     
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    oh, what's with amd's driver lately? too many of them with different versions.. i just installed 8.93 29nov...and wanna try the 11.11c...but, the question is..can anybody suggest which driver is the BEST (mean in performance for us) for our hd 6250/6290? updated driver maybe good for high end cards, but sometimes not for low end cards (like ours)..
    based on my experience, i think it's cat 11.5 and 11.7 the most stable one
     
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    Download it and bench it and post the results :)
     
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    you must try...i dont have many problems with drivers for apu, i was more judging from desktop gfx card :) but it has new features anyway....
     
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    anyone tried battlefield 3 or at least bfbc2 ? :))
    BF2 is running perfectly on nice detials
     
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    I don't have any hope, it wasn't play to play wc3x, dota and that's only like 10 people running around. BF3 is probably too much.

    PS: on the graphic driver 8.93 I have screen tears but 11.11c solve that problem fyi :)
     
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    MW3 sure's sucks really hard.

    Gonna buy some M&B With fire & sword and BF2. Krishna, are you play BF2 single player or 64 multiplayer?
     
  30. krishna

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    i played 64 pl no problem...just buy basic bf2 ...i buy master colection and only bf2 serial is working :) , yu can check some older post i wrote there are detail settings that worked
     
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    I found a well optimized game, it's Spiderman: FoF vid here.

    most of these games are being ran at lower settings and resolutions

    playable = y, unplayable = n

    devil may cry 3................................15-30 n
    devil may cry 4................................25-40 y butter
    lost planet demo...............................9-15 n
    resident evil 4..................................30 y
    resident evil 5..................................17-25 y
    gta sa............................................30+ y
    gta 4..............................................5-15 n
    nfs underground
    nfs u2
    nfs carbon
    nfs most wanted
    nfs undercover
    nfs hot pursuit 2
    nfs prostreet....................................20-40 y ok
    nfs shift(patched)..............................9-20 n
    nfs hot pursuit 2010...........................9-15 n
    srs..................................................20-35 y
    red alert 2........................................? y
    spiderman 2(emulated).......................? y
    spiderman 3......................................9-15 n
    spiderman Fof...................................30 y butter
    gears of war.....................................9-20 y
    crysis 2 ..........................................9-20 n
    minecraft pre 1.0...............................25-45 y
    minecraft 1.0....................................15-25 n lag spikes
    hl1 + counterstrike 1.6........................45+ y butter
    hl2 + counterstrike source...................25+ y butter
    batman aa........................................9-15 n
    oblivion............................................20-45 y
    grid.................................................15-30 y
    dirt2................................................15-30 y
    dirt3................................................9-20 n
    doom 3.............................................9-40 n lag spikes
    quake 4............................................15-30 y
    homefront demo.................................? n
    cod 2...............................................20-35 y
    cod 4/4-2.........................................20-35 y
    cod black ops....................................5-35 n crazy lag spikes
    battlefield 2.......................................15-35 y
    bulletstorm........................................10-25 y laggy
    coj the cartel.....................................10-30 y laggy
    bioshock............................................10-40 y laggy
    star wars bf2......................................20-40 y butter
    lego star wars.....................................15-25 y very laggy
    driver sa.............................................5-15 n
    far cry................................................30+ y
    halo...................................................30+ y lag spikes
    max payne 2........................................30+ y butter
    splintercell ct.......................................30+ y butter
    splintercell conv. .................................5-15 n laggy as hell
    rainbow 6 vegas ?................................20-35 y
    pop ww..............................................30+ y ok
    pop st................................................20-30 n
    prototype............................................9-15 n(30+ in in engine cinematics though)
    saints row 2.........................................9-25 n laggy
    hawx..................................................15-25 y laggy
    007 golden eye(emulated).......................30 y project 64
    007 nightfire.........................................30+ y
    street fighter 4......................................30+ y
    fear1/2................................................20-35 y
    psyconauts..........................................15-35 y lags at high rez
    assassins creed.....................................10-15 n
    the witcher enhanced ed.........................15-25 y lag spikes
    ARMA 2 free ed......................................10-25 n laggy
    just cause.............................................? y low fps
    medal of honor 2010................................5-15 n laggy
    plants vs zombie
    bejeweled
    audio surf
    angry birds
    trails hd
    side way ny
    shank...................................................30+ y butter
    bloodrayne 2..........................................20-35 y lag spikes
    ninjablade..............................................15-25 y killer lag spike occasionally
    trine-linux..............................................? y low fps
    the last remnant.....................................20-30 y lag spikes
    pariah...................................................30+ y
    kane and lynch 2....................................5-15 n low fps
    jade empire............................................20-35 y some lag
    starwars jkja/jkjo....................................30+ y lower fps at high rez
    enter the matrix......................................10-20 n laggy
    the matrix pon........................................15 y game engine probably capped at 15 for lower end specs
    dark siders.............................................5-15 n laggy
    freedom fighters......................................20+ y laggy at higher rez
     
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    Spore - 25-30, 800x600 all low, playable as it doesn't need high FPS.
     
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    I get occasional top screen tear and reboot solves that issue, anyone else having this issue :).

    Everyone's posting games... I like to add World of Warcraft, highly playable, 25-45fps :)

    All you need

    PS: I play with Direct X 11 enable, i'm sure it helps :)
     
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    sims 2 and 3, very playable i spend 7 hours playing it.
     
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    This could be a piece of fruit or could even be a fruit juice or some red wine. Then you will need to make a funnel out of a piece of paper so that the bottom is smaller than a pea hole. Fix the funnel into the neck of the bottle. You will rid fruit flys by this approach due to the fact that all the how to get rid of fruit flies will fly into the bottle attracted to the bait but will certainly not be able to find their way out of the trap.

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    ^ Somehow I also prefer C-50. C-60 bios still far from perfect, as many bugs & bad optimization

    With 5 post, we can conclude that AMD c APU Does able to play games
     
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    i've got a new issue here, sometimes there are crazy many white artifacts in my screen...i dunno what could cause it to happen...but it looks like hardware failure, did it happended to anyone else?
     
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    hey guys something happened...either it's a bug or amd gave us a gift...after i upgraded to 11.12 catalyst i ran a street fighter 4 bench and it kept calling my 6250 a 6310, so i followed up by looking at the hardware in the vision control center and it also came up as 6310 and also in gpuz aswell. sadly I have also notice a performance drop so it may very well be a bug...
     

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    Can only assume it's a simple identification bug in the INF file for the 11.12 driver. I went straight from the 11.11c preview to 12.1 preview driver and it still correctly calls it like every driver set has before: "AMD Radeon HD 6200 series Graphics"

    But a mere misidentification like that shouldn't cause a performance drop. Likely something in the driver itself is just slightly slower than the previous set.
     

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    Well, I just installed 11.12 and got the 6310 gpu on my c-50 also. So, I ran a new windows index score and I got a one point increase on my Aero Performance though nothing for the graphics portion of the windows index.

    It would be interesting to hear the graphics/aero window index scores of those who own the c-60.

    Edit, Looking back through this thread, many people were posting aero window index scores of 4.1 for their c-50's. most likely I hadn't run a windows index since I had first installed the OS and updating the index produced the extra point (for whatever reason), not a new 6310 gpu.
     
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    There is something really wrong with this driver, or I am ,,,,well, check this driver out ,,, you must. But, my c-50 is running at crazy speeds now.

    And, I question whether this is healthy for the apu. My acer isn't overheating, but it's scary fast, and gpuz is showing the gpu core clock sensor showing
    2000 mhz gpu core clock. The last poster said he had a performance drop, well, this is ridiculous. I don't think the gpu is running at 2000 mhz, so something is very odd about all of this. Not a troll, spouting fiction.

    Everything is faster, even typing these words, it's way faster. I don't know, I will restart the computer. Hopefully my acer doesn't blow up.

    I just don't understand. I played virtual tennis 3, and it was super fast, so perhaps a weird glitch. Please test this 11.12 and see what's up.
     
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    Ok, here is a link to a snapshot of gpuz tab showing c-50 as 6310 with gpu core clock at 2000mhz. No wonder this netbook is scary fast. I sent information to amd. now i will turn off this netbook, before it explodes.

    http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/12/16/ap0.png
     
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    OC is a hell of the drug
     
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    I think it is a normal software bug. The 2000mhz are far away von possible.
    I also wonder how you can feel speed improvement by typing a text....
    Need to see benchmarks to believe it.

    Can not test it by my self cause win8 is installed.
     
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    wow yu mean it its real xit ? cant wait to try it man....will post 2 night
     
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    well, a user from the amd forums stated that I should go to a restore point, or used acer drivers for the netbook because I uninstalled 11.12 and it's still O.C'd. Yeah, it's faster for sure. There doesn't seem to be any overheating, I wonder if I can keep this and the c-50 will stay safe?
     
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    are yu using brazostweaker? i will turn it of and install and report...NICE BUG!!! was waiting something like c50 to c60 bug, but 2000mhz NIIIIIICEEE :)
    what vcore yu have on 2000mhz ?
     
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    Question about Brazostweaker. I'm using it with my E-350 and don't see a way to save different profiles like wiht K10Stat. Is there a way to execute different profiles on demand? One for low power and one when you need/want high performance?
     
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