AMD C-50 CPU and 6250 GPU performance(Acer 522 review)

yes, I am using brazostweaker. you are right. I will do that. I assume vcore is voltage? it'ts at .900v

 

Ok, Brazos tweaker is reading gpu at nbpo 444mhz and nbp1 at 333 mhz

 

Curious if that is the true O.C, can someone with a c-50 before 11.12 tell me their brazostweaker gpu freq.

The cpu does not seem to have been affected.

 

and from were yu read 2000mhz ?

 

htwnight ..sure yu can set it up in brazos tweak...yu have there P states...

 

I read 2000mhz from gpuz, on the prior page I posted a screen shot of the gpu sensor tab. you can clearly see the number. Just called amd support, they told me to go to acer

 

No, I know there's three p-states. But I want to set one configuration for low power, for extended battery, and one for high power for games. I do this with my Llano laptop with K10stat. You can save up to five profiles so you can run a low power configuration, and one with a performance configuration. K10Stat works with Brazos, but it won't change NB voltage.

 

got it.... it seems really this driver configure gpu to higher clock like 6310 wei score goes up to 4.1
also 2d freq. seems higher. windows is smoother
thank yu amd this way maybe we can hack amd inf files and do the overclock
from what i read 6250 - 280mhz
6310 - 440 mhz
yupiii , free 160mhz GPU Overclock!!!
and now some homework !! can you modify AMD INF file to think we got better CPU ? like e300 or at least c60 ? i think its very easy and possible !!!

 

Yeah, it's real. I can play oblivion on the highest resolution and plays. Wow, oblivion is beautiful. I can't believe I have been playing on such a muddy level of graphics.

Why is this? who knows, who cares. I can't wait to hear from others, for all of the efforts to tweak their c-50, this is like manna falling from heaven. Wow.

No lag at 1600x900 for oblivion.

 

but it doesnt seem that cpu freq is 2000mhz ..aida64 showing normal 1000mhz(and shows 440mhz gpu corectly)
but the gpu itself is nice bump ,... +57% mhz OC wow.. this is da bomb

 

mass effect 2 is playable. While at the lowest settings, still incredible graphics and game play at 800x600, I just finished a mission and the frame rate is good. Before, mass effect 2 was a mess , very slow. I don't have fraps but game play was fluid enough to get lost in the game.

 

man that is the most impresiv thing that happens to c50
happy christmas!!!
UPD: this must be godly mistake!

 

What about battery life guys? does it go down significantly?

 

I was operating on batteries last night and this morning and nothing stood out in so far as battery life.

I have noticed that the netbook gets a little warmer where the fan is, but only while playing graphic intensive games and even then the operative term is warm.

 

Installing 11.12 now on my tablet, I'll let you know gaming performance in a bit.

What program do you all use to reliably monitor temps on the C-50? If only there was an easy way to overclock the CPU like Llano, I feel that's holding this APU back much more than the graphics.

 

install 11.12 and i dont feel any improvement...actually it seems worse than my previous driver 12.1 beta
i tried oblivion and nothing change, no fps change or whatsoever...

 

yeah, it was a bug so i went to 12.1 and its back to normal...while i was using 11.12,the clocks were all the same, just the name got changed, also the performance was slower, the sf4 bench would give me 30fps and i was only getting ~25...

 

I don't know what to say, I have clear performance improvement. To me it wasn't a bug, otherwise I wouldn't have hyperventilated at the increase in speed. Do you have the acer 522? Do you have the latest bio installed? I am sure that there are particular factors perhaps that allowed the increase.

I stand firm by this so there must be something amiss between our systems.


Here is something interesting. I now have a full gig of memory ram being in constant use, which wasn't the case before. It has been allocated.

I have four gig of ram in total. So, perhaps if you two do not have four gig of ram and this overclock is grabbing up ram, you would in fact see a performance drop. Just a theory, but it's strange that my memory is locked at 1.30 ghz and is in constant use. I have been keeping an eye on it and it hasn't changed since this morning. Just a thought.

 

this so called "bug" ..i would say nice hack
this thing is definetly working and incresing clocks, i dont know guys what yu got and what yu do, but i got proof my gpu is on 440mhz
no battery life change...chip is operating on the same voltage...
i will now setup brazos tweaker for cpu vcore part and stay with this driver!
i got first serie c50 aspire one 522 netbook
also good start it will be to compare AMD INF file from 11.11 vs 11.12 and find the difference
and best monitor i know is aida64 check it out

 

i've got the latest bios too 1.12, and i think all latest driver for everything too...
for me, aida only reported 276mhz and gpuz 5.6 (for whatever reason give errors (blah-blah cant be read, trying to reset)...i've got 2gb of ram, but i dont think it would make any difference
As far as i know, the CPU and GPU clock is bonded (related to each other) which mean, an increase in CPU would increase GPU's clock too (as shown in Llano's system)...and the GPU can't be increased without increasing the CPU clock ...CMIIW
FYI: in WEI, i've got 4.1 for aero from loooong time ago ( 4.2 with the stock driver i think)
and i played oblivion in 720p + HDR with 15-30fps from long time ago too
so, i dunno why the driver is not working for me..
Plume and Krishna, have u checked the frequency with OpenHardwareMonitor (good reading for apus i guess)? and benchmark it?

 

OpenHardware monitor says 275 MHz for me using 11.12.

My GPU-Z also doens't open.

 

This is weird. I will , and you too Krishna, let's run some sort of benchmarking software and compare that to stock benches. What is the best bench marking software to test with?

Also, I will download Aida.

 

there is hell noway yu can have aero at 4.1....i have many driver sets and it never moves a bit
plume if yu see increase in fps in games that is definetly proof
i will test it out later tonight/morning and make some screenshots
and 1 thing about monitors, majority of monitors just find yur gear and shows default values and not actual Overclock or underclock...aida64 is showing, when supported actual stuff

 

Well, the issue for me isn't whether I have increased performance, this is a fact. What I am wanting to know is what has changed.

Actually, people have had 4.1 as others have stated earlier in the thread, which is why I discounted my personal point increase. Also, I too am getting 275mhz on some of the testing software. So, I have discovered that on Sandra benchmarking, the gpu is being picked up as having 2x533mhz(1ghz) and the memory bus speed is being picked up at 1ghz, plus it's not only reading 256mb in the integrated graphics, but is also stating the 2x533mhz within the heading.

Is this the performance increase? Speed is monitored at 275mhz (well, it's not being monitored, it's in the summary). Something has changed, produced change, but it's frustrating when many people haven't experienced this "shift". I can only say that others who read these posts, try and see if you get an increase in performance.

If the software is simply reading the headers within the software and not the embedded code, it would be easy to discount, but with three people not experiencing the "shift", I wonder what the hell is going on.

Well, the gpu has 1.6 ghz cached. I will stop posting until I can find something concrete to share.

Krishna, it's frustrating that we are experiencing this performance while others are somehow stuck in the rain. It is interesting that brazostweaker is showing 444mhz on the gpu. So, this is a bit of proof going forward.


OK. Apparently, I didn't run the Sandra benchmark, I simply looked at the summaries. Ran the Sandra Benchmark, took ten minutes, it states 444mhz IMC. What is IMC, integrated memory controller. What is that?

Well, the gpu accesses the ram from the integrated memory controller, I am assuming that this is in fact the integrated gpu reading, for 444mhz. It's stated right beside the cpu measure at 1ghz.
Add brazostweaker's reading of 444mhz on the gpu, and we have a winner. So, check brazostweaker, grab Sandra benchmark, free on the net, and check it out.

 

I just ran the FurMark 720P benchmark and got a score of 79, what about you guys?

 

Nice score! I got a 66.

 

What did your clocks say during the benchmark? Mine were 275 and 550.

 

The fumark test didn't appear to be showing active clock speeds, though it did show the 275 and 533 as the clock speed. Point meaning that the numbers appeared to be static, no measuring.

Do you have brazos tweaker and if so what is that program listing, or perhaps Sandra?

I do know that overclocking will not be picked up by many monitoring programs, if it's just showing the hardware info.

 

BrazosTweaker had no change. I think before and after 11.12 it was 333 nb1 and 444 nb2 or something.

 

Really? The same? hmmm. Anyone else that hasn't installed 11.12 and has brazostweaker on their c-50, can you share your nb values? I am starting to question this 11.12 as a full fledged overclock, bear claw isn't jumping up and down, so I am beginning to wonder why I have this change in my system.

I honestly couldn't play mass effect 2 just two months ago as it wasn't at a playable frame rate, now, I can play it and all of my other games , especially the sega games, are much faster, also responsiveness in windows has improved. So, I didn't escape from a mental institution, I guess we have a mystery until more people chime in and share any experiences with this driver.

 

agreed with bearclaw...brazos tweaker nb shows 333 and 444mhz since it's inital release..i think openhardware monitor shows your actual clock, just try to turn off powerplay in catalyst and voila, your gpu clock will turn to 200mhz (it's the powerplay maximize battery as a default)..also try hw32 software, it can benchmark your system and read your system quite realtime and detailed

so..except plume and krishna the others didnt feel any improvement i assume?
so plume can you rate your fps in a game (oblivion perhaps) and your setting (resolution, details, HDR or bloom)?
usually i play oblivion with 1024*600 + medium texture+ HDR, but when i increase the resolution to 720p, the fps barely the same (count it with ati traytools) it shows 15-25 outside, 20-30 inside

 

Did anything else change between the new driver and when you last tested your games? It may be that the drivers are just more optimized. Also... can you describe your windows responsiveness?

 

iam starting to be sceptical too, but what a bump in windows performance havent time to test it, i was thinking if we got higher gpu freq. so that WEI gaming score should go up too, and its not...iam starting to think its just very good driver
ok there is no OC on gpu(even though, if it werent locked, it will work on 440mhz) , but can someone without 11.12 driver check default 2d gpu clock?
i got it always on 280mhz(2d / 3d), that can explain extra performance in windows

 

Proof of improvement performance of 12.1 driver
I HAVE A C-60 BTW NOT C-50!!
This is the first test summary, I'll do another run post updates to WEI score later.

Brief Summary:
11.12 3Dmark06: 1994
11.11c 3Dmark06: 1829 [All this can be found in the previous threads]
8.93 November 29 Driver: 3Dmark06

WEI Change Gaming Graphics from 5.5 to 5.6
[2nd trial time for consistently 1996 3dmark06]

Detailed:
3DMark Score 1994 11.12 vs 1829 11.11 c ~ 9% Improvement
SM2.0 Score716 vs 634 ~ 13% improvement
HDR/SM3.0 Score892 vs 817 ~ 9% improvement
CPU Score764 vs 769 ~ .65% decrease
GT1 - Return To Proxycon5.52 FPS vs. 4.96 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest6.41 FPS vs. 5.6 FPS
CPU1 - Red Valley0.24 FPS vs. 0.24 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley0.39 FPS vs. 0.39 FPS
HDR1 - Canyon Flight8.15 FPS vs. 7.59 FPS
HDR2 - Deep Freeze9.68 FPS vs. 8.75 FPS

WEI Score 11.12
CPU: 3.3
RAM: 5.2
Graphics: 4.1
Gaming Graphic: 5.6 (Bump from 5.5)
HD: 5.7

 

soulzero: pls. can yu install aida64 and check your GPU clock in windows, not in game, thanks...

 

Sure, I have a C-60 not a C-50.

For AC plug in
Video Adapter AMD Radeon HD 6250 (Wrestler)
GPU Code Name Wrestler (Loveland) (Integrated 1002 / 9807, Rev 00)
GPU Clock 406 MHz [ranges from 399-406]

For Battery power
GPU Clock 280 MHz [Ranges from 278-280]

 

aha, so it seems no gain on 11.12 , its locked by bios and there is hell noway to bypass it otherwise like bios hack

 

Nice. Well, Soulzero's findings, even if c-60, shows that we have a very optimized driver for the c class apu's.

I am downloading 3dmark06 now. I will run the benchmarks and see how it fares against the c-60's improvements as I don't have any prior benchmarks on my c-50 before the driver download.

Would have been nice to have an overclock, but this appears to be a sanctioned overclock of sorts coming from AMD considering the increase in performance. Ah, the struggle for truth.

Bearclaw, the increase in windows responsiveness is based on everything being snappier and faster, smoother with more stability. Stability is the key term I would use. I have aero enabled with certain quality options, menu's fading in and out of view, I am losing my memory of what the prior experience was already, but basically it moved slower, basically everything was slower. Now, I have a very quick interface. Again, games seem to be better, Virtual Tennis 3, Outrun 2006, they are cooking. I will have to download fraps and test Oblivion.

 

Soulzero, your 3dmark06 scores are through the roof. Even notebookcheck, which has the 3dmark06 scores comparing all of the different mobile graphic cards, only has their score for the c-60 6290 at 1557. Actually, your stated second run of 3dmark06 at 1996 is one point over the score for the e-350's 6310.

I ran 3dmark06 and achieved a score of 1465, which is twenty points higher vs their stated score for the c-50.

So, the lesson in all of this is go buy a c-60.

 

/Blush

The E-350 got a 2264 [ ]AMD "Zacate" APU First Look: Hands On with the Brazos Platform and 2135 [ http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1470/7/]

I'm pretty sure with the new driver the E-350 will be higher. I'm assuming the only reason the C-60 is better in 3Dmark06 so optimistically is because of the OC'ing on the graphic card. While the turbo is useful for the cpu is barely on at all the time.

The C-60 graphic portion is able to constantly run at 400MHz vs the C-50 graphic portion being lock into 277MHz. From 277 to 400, is a 62% increase in clock. Seeing a 36% 3Dmark06 increase from c-50 to c-60 is a bit much, I'm questioning the validity of 3Dmark06 now

 

@soulzero Have you try Minecraft with new driver? Using 11.11c still produce 10 fps. I just don't get it.

 

Hi Wing,

Currently, I don't see a point of including multiple profiles. What differences are you thinking of between the profiles?

-witteks

 

Nope, I don't even know what it is

 

stupid lego game

 

no conflict..no hero..no heroine..no decent graphic? leave me alone

 

Hi everyone!
I have an acer 522 with this configuration:
Processor: amd c-50;
Ram: 4gb kingston KVR1066D3S7/4G;
Ssd: ocz vertex plus 60gb;
Windows 7 x64 pro.

I have installed the new 11.12 driver from Amd site (under Notebook graphic --> C-series APU --> C-50 --> Windows 7 x64) but in gpu-z and openhardwaremonitor my gpu core is still 276mhz.
Also with this driver I noticed a worse quality during internet browsing, very much worse.
What did I do wrong?
Please Help!!

 

Wow, lot a hate for minecraft D:

Like what Khrisna said, it was a "nice hack", not everyone successfully OC'ed. Plume got lucky, but people like monstercameron isn't

 

Hey Spartans7, It's fine that your gpu core is still 276mhz, as we came to the conclusion that this driver doesn't overclock the physical gpu core, but that the driver is very optimized and as a result, you should see big improvement in games and in your windows interface experience.

If you are having trouble, I don't know what to say, except download the latest bios from Acer and clean out your registries? Another interesting point, after running the wei scores once the 11.12 driver was installed, I got a point increase in my harddrive as well as an additional point in my aero graphics.

There is something that is holding this driver back for some, while for others they are getting proven results via benchmarking. So, it might do well to look through your system and see what may be holding the driver from being the best it can be? Or perhaps, reinstall the driver to see if it takes hold? I am no computer science engineer so it's a lot of fumbling to try to find the solution, let alone the reason for the solution. Good Luck!

 

i will try later 11.12 > 12.1 prev if something goes higher,..i still believe someone will hack the acer 522
just take a look at acer site .,..they got some second ati driver, have someone try it ?
AMD 8.861.0.0 157.2 MB 12/13/2011
http://global-download.acer.com/GDF... ONE&Step3=AO522&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=PA_7
i will try it if its some super driver or what

 

Why waste your time? That driver is seven months old and was originally posted under the AO722 section. Just because Acer finally got around to posting it to the AO522 section last week doesn't make it new at all.