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    AMD announces Radeon M300 series notebook video cards

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, May 6, 2015.

  1. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    And ironically enough that benefits everyone EXCEPT Clevo users lol

    Goddammit Clevo you dun goofed
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    People on PCGamer's comment section are b*tching at me that the Titan X isn't even overpriced, because there's nothing stronger.

    This... this is why it's $1000. Next thing you know they're gonna call the R9 390X underpriced if it comes out at $750-800 and beats the Titan X. * jesus facepalm*
    I hope it's the former.
    I hope it happens. We need nVidia to put in the work again.
     
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  3. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    980 Ti 5.5+0.5GB confirmed! :D (and also incorrect ROP and TMU count confirmed :D :D)

    only being semi-serious here
     
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  4. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    TMUs should be correct, however can't say the same about ROPs, L2 cache, and memory. :D
     
  5. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    The ROPs and L2 cache are intact. The memory is not split into two sections.
     
  6. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    We'll see. I asked AnandTech to run CUDA deviceQuery and Nai's Benchmark to verify.
     
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    MooMilk Notebook Consultant

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    We really need ATi back, cause Nvidia' total monopoly would be a bad thing for the market.
     
  8. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    I corrected that for you :)
     
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    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    I can't think that they would be insane enough to pull the exact same shenanigans again after the 970.

    What would be their excuse this time? Oops we forgot to give the press the correct specs... again!
     
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  10. octiceps

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    Ryan Smith got back to me and said deviceQuery checks out. Didn't run Nai's Benchmark though, guess they don't trust it.

    Still, the low pixel fillrate on the 980 Ti, which they couldn't explain either in the review, makes me uneasy.
     
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  11. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    I think the game performance speaks for itself though. It's pretty much identical to Titan X. Must be a quirk of the benchmark software?

    Hang on... why are we discussing 980 Ti in an AMD thread? :S
     
  12. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    We don't know that for sure without FCAT and SLI testing in scenarios that consume close to the full 6GB. AnandTech only meaures FPS and didn't give any info on VRAM consumption. Incomplete testing was part of the reason the 970 issue was hidden for so long and eventually discovered by end-users, not reviewers. Which is ironic because usually only reviewers have the means of obtaining a multi-thousand dollar FCAT testing setup.

    Idk of any quirks with the 3DMark Vantage color fill test.

    Blame @n=1 :p
     
  13. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I was too lazy to make a new thread for it AND it doesn't make sense to make a desktop GPU thread in a notebook forum. So I just used it to fuel AMD's need to bring the thunder, rain, fire, earth, wind, etc.
    This is essentially why I hate when they release terrible information about laptops and laptop hardware too. They don't know, and don't bother to be thorough, or they let their own opinions intrude on a fact-based article, and then we end up with either incomplete or biased information about tech. Then you can't tell the retards out there the correct information, because they'll just slap you with the bad articles. I *STILL* have people thinking the Titan X is well-priced at $1000 despite not even actually being a Titan card.
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    You know, there *is* a 980 Ti thread in the desktop hardware forum... :p
     
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    LAZYYYYYY I BEEEEE
     
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    It is out! R9 M390X! You could buy it now on the Alienware website. :)
     
  17. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Rebadged M295X I'm assuming
     
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    It's not out on Notebookcheck either.
     
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    If so, that leaves a new GPU for AMD to release in the mobile zone.
    This also aligns well with previous rumors suggesting that the m390x was Tonga rebrand.
    So... if the m385x is the m280x and the m295x is the m390x, what happens to the m290 and m290x?
    Well... it was silently added onto the AW15. It's kind of surprising to see it, but then again, isn't Computex happening right now?
     
  20. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Apple gets them for iMac
     
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    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    I see it on the Alienware site too, I am also assuming it is a rebadged R9 M295X. *Sigh*
     
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    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Wow... that's not good.
     
  23. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    For AMD mobile GPU fans, 2016 can't come soon enough
     
  24. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Not particularly happy about it, but not unexpected. Wonder if they managed to improve it a bit (lower TDP) or it's the very same R9-M295X we all know and love. Who cares, it's not like we'll see it in MXM format.
     
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    Key word here: 'assume'.
    I wouldn't assume anything until we have the ability to test the GPU in question,
     
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    True. All we know is that it's a m295x rebrand, but that's it. How much has changed between the two, we don't know.
     
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    How do the people here know its a M295X rebrand...?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Are you suggesting it's a m290x rebrand?
    ... I'm joking.
    I guess "know" is a strong word. "Assume", like what Deks said, is a more suitable word. Confidently assuming, I think.
     
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    We don't, we are making assumptions based on AMD's crappy business model of constant rebrands, and the lack of any major announcements in the mobile sector. I haven't seen a MXM version of the R9 390X anywhere yet, I don't know if there will be one. Nothing shown on Zentrica, which was the only known source for MXM R9 M295X cards.
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Exactly. Lets say "assume" instead of "know" until we have concrete evidence.
    Dell took a risk to list the card before AMD got to announce it. I too would assume its because its a M295X, but the cards are still in the air so to speak :)

    I think that AMD may announce the mobile cards along with the Fiji cards when E3 begins.
     
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    In any case, just to cement it's existence, an Alienware forum rep did confirm to me that the m390x is a real thing. Just for now, it'll be a US-first GPU.
     
  32. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Wait and see I guess. The math 265 = 370 is rather worrying though, and the picture of the chip even more so (Hello old fella).
     
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    Usually the latest and greatest launch worldwide (by that I mean in all the biggest markets, not just the US) so it's sounding even more likely that it's based on existing chips.

    I doubt AMD would allow Alienware to sneakily slip this out with such little fanfare if it truly were a revolutionary new architecture. The announcement for such a shiny new mobile flagship will only come after the announcement of the desktop versions.
     
  34. octiceps

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    InB4 M290X rebrand
     
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    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

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    If it were something new and exciting, youd have already sniffed out some leaks for us :)
     
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    I totally expect it, AMD is giving me the same feeling with this constant rebranding that you get from riding in a cheap car through windy roads.
     
  37. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    :D

    Ok fine so the 8970M is technically 7970M+50MHz, still.
     
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    Still lazy to make new thread http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...v/amd-teases-fiji-but-refuses-to-reveal-fury/

    Seems that HBM not even doubling current memory bandwidth limits means that it can swap out data fast enough that 4GB works just fine. At least one of their flagship cards will only have 4GB vRAM. I think AMD is confused on just how much uncached data can be used at 4K with some healthy multisample AA
     
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    Benchmark of the R9 m370x.
    Nothing interesting. It's performance is inbetween the GTX 760m and GTX 765m. Better than the GT 940m, though, but way weaker than the GTX 850m/950m.
    Haven't found anything on the R9 m390x, though.
     
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    It is said that assumption is the mother of all mess ups.
    We can theorise about what might be coming, but we cannot say conclusively until its here and available for testing - this is one of the reasons I try not to 'assume' anything.
     
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    Aaaaaaand I present to you R9 M390X in Alienware's stand at Computex 2015. It is reviewed by an editor from Donanım Haber (Hardware News) which is a very respectable hardware website along with its forums in my country since 1999 and I took this GPU-z ss from the video. (Editor's Note: he says that "it is named as R9 M390 but it is believed to be R9 M390X according to official information from Alienware, this is probably a mistake due to intense tempo during in the exhibition area"). He isn't very sure, so there may will be actually R9 M390X?


    [​IMG]

    I'm not an expert but it must be a R9 M295X rebrand, right? AND it has even lowered core and memory clocks comparing to R9 M295X. If this is actually R9 M390X... come on AMD...
     
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    Yeah it is a straight up M295X rebrand. They didn't even boost the clocks or anything:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sad not not unexpected I guess.
     
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    Well, if one looks at the positive side of this, that means there is 1 to 2 GPUs (m395x) that won't be a rebrand. That also means it'll be based on new architecture, and there's only two left to choose from unless AMD just makes the m395x an OC m390x: Hawaii or Fiji. Doubtful on Hawaii, so that leaves Fiji... for now, at least.
     
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    Well done karashin. Good find :)

    Alienware also tweeted this about M390X, notice they say R9 370 and not R7 370. Makes me wonder the slides from the article GreaseMonkey post above is fake.
    https://twitter.com/Alienware/status/608074379604467712

    [​IMG]


    So maybe those two cards are the same?

    Anyhow, the good thing about this is, if R9 M395X exist, it got to be a new chip other than Tonga. R9 M390X is a full Tonga, not much more they can offer from that chip with M395X.
    Got to keep our eyes open and see if we can spot any leaks or mention from M395X. I hope it exists :)


    Another thing I`d like to point out is that the slide from AMD says "Refined Efficiency and Power Management" for all M300 cards from AMD.
    Sounds to me like they reduced TDP from the M200 cards. Meaning a M390X could have lower TDP than M295X. Fingers crossed guys!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Most likely not. The R9 370 is an OEM GPU, more specifically an overclocked version of the R7 265 and R9 270 1024sp (.... an OEM version of the R9 270 that's a rebrand of the R7 265).
    The R7 370 seems to be based of the retail R9 270, if the rumors and what information we have are true.
     
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    Maybe you are right. Why even have OEM GPUs? So damn confusing

    Why would AMD compare a 300 series GPU to a Keplerr 750Ti? Seems very strange
     
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    The difference between 380 and OEM 370 is so large, these rebadgings are crazy haha
     
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