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    AMD announces Radeon M300 series notebook video cards

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by octiceps, May 6, 2015.

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    And why can't they cut the amount of shaders on the GPU?
     
    Game7a1, Jun 9, 2015
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    We've been over this before
     
    octiceps, Jun 9, 2015
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    I actually forgot or did not partake in the discussion. Link please?
     
    Game7a1, Jun 9, 2015
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    750Ti is based on GM107 so it's maxwell so I see no reason not to compare with it especially if price is similar, but that doesn't change the fact that it's by far the most boring card in the 300 series lineup.
     
    Link4, Jun 10, 2015
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    octiceps, Jun 10, 2015
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    BOOM - Nostalgia bomb!
     
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    It would definitely capitalize on the mind share of the new Mad Max movie.
     
    hfm, Jun 10, 2015
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    What did you guys think of the AMD presentation? I wonder if the R9 Nano will reach mobile GPUs.

    The Fury X with 4096 Stream processors, 8.6 teraflops... too bad they didn't put more numbers or benches yet. They did mention they had, I think, Tomb raider ultra at what, 4K or 5K at 60fps? That would be around 35% faster than the 980Ti for the same price.

    Man, it sucks when they make announcements that raise the number of questions!
     
    ryzeki, Jun 16, 2015
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    Doubt it. They said it was 275W in the presentation.
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    What was the nano supposed to have 2x perf/watt against? the 290x? Does that mean it can be a 137.5 Watt 290x?
     
    ryzeki, Jun 16, 2015
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    No they said the Fury Nano was 275W. Or maybe it was the Fury X. I need to rewatch to make sure.
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    Oh I don't remember either, but what I mean, is that they said they achieved 2 times the perf/watt with nano, and 1.5 with fury. Those numbers I assume are against a 290x? If that is so, they can finally bring near 290X performance to a mobile envelope.

    That is a nice bump in performance for the same price. Glad we have competition.
     
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    290X is rated at 290W TDP, in reality more like 300W. Even at 2x perf/watt it would still have to be cut down to fit in mobile. Which would put it in a precarious position against 980M which achieves close to 290X perf.
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    I take Fury Nano also has HBM memory?
     
    karasahin, Jun 16, 2015
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    All the Fury cards do
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    According to this table and an article from legitreviews, the regular Fury has a TPD of 275w and the Fury X has a TPD of 300w.
    And reading over anandtech's live blog, AMD said the Nano had half the power of the R9 290x. Taking into account what legitreviews said, "power" must mean power consumption.
     
    Game7a1, Jun 16, 2015
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    I see. It is said that the MXM interface is going to have difficulties about HBM memory due to its bandwidth but I really hope Fury Nano will support MXM and upgradebility among current notebooks in case it will cut down to the mobile.
     
    karasahin, Jun 16, 2015
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    TDP not TPD.

    If Fury Nano is 150W and 2x perf/watt as 290X while Fury X is 300W and 1.5x perf/watt as 290X, that would put Fury Nano at 75% 67% the perf of Fury X.
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    Looking good for AMD.
     
    Katagon, Jun 16, 2015
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    Not for their mobile lineup :(

    They need a Fury M.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    Cakefish, Jun 16, 2015
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    For what it's worth, the newest supposed benchmark leaks of Fury and Fury X performance:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    http://iyd.kr/746
     
    aqnb, Jun 16, 2015
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    Yeah about that...I have no idea. But AMD bringing HBM to notebooks this year would be extremely cool. :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jun 16, 2015
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    Don't want to be a Negative Nancy or rain on anyone's parade, but you'd think that if the R9 M395X was the same chip as the R9 Nano that it would have also been announced with the the lineup today? What other opportunities would there be to announce it?
     
    Any_Key, Jun 16, 2015
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    Yes. HBM and its upgradeability chance with the current notebooks would be twice extremely cool. One can dream :D
     
    karasahin, Jun 16, 2015
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    Damn, looks like the 4GB of HBM absolutely kills Fury and Fury X in FS at 5K and 8K
     
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    hmmm, So they have to replace model number with a name now?

    and yes, I think fury sound stupid..
     
    baii, Jun 16, 2015
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    Taking a page out of Nvidia's Titan book.

    The Fury name is a blast from AMD's (well, ATi's) past. Fury was the flagship from the ATi Rage line in the late '90s.
     
    octiceps, Jun 16, 2015
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    HBM still can't compensate the need for actual physical memory huh... it's gonna be interesting to see where is the break even point in the terms of resolution for bandwidth vs memory size

    would be an interest test to see how well the Fury lines do in the poorly optimized VRAM hogs like Mordor

    also not to be negative guys, but keep in mind this gamework bs is still going on, so regardless of how powerful the card is, nvidia still has an ace in their sleeves
     
    heibk201, Jun 17, 2015
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    Yeah. 4K is only just barely starting to catch on (with a huge number of naysayers on this very forum!) and you're worried about 5K and 8K?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm more worried about CrossFire users suffering in new games with textures and/or VSR turned up because of the relatively lackluster 4GB of HBM. The raw horsepower is certainly there.
     
    octiceps, Jun 17, 2015
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    Ah but again those users represent a tiny, tiny fraction of AMD's potential customer base.

    I don't think AMD need to worry about such things. The successor with HBM 2 will be out next year.

    Those tiny proportion who do need multiple GPUs can just get 980 Ti or Titan X. I'm not seeing any major problem for AMD with 4GB VRAM in 2015.

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    Idk...I can see a good number of holdouts springing for two of the air-cooled Fury, which at $550 is enticing for 980 Ti/Titan X level performance
     
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    Funny, I seem to remember AMD claiming that "HBM is so fast that 4GB is fine for 4K with all the details turned up" and all that jazz... I find this extremely funny. Because I knew it'd happen and I called it before. 4GB isn't enough for a flagship today. It just is not. It's like selling the 980 with 2GB of vRAM. Yeah it'll play like 90% of all games out there, but the ones that are even a TAD unoptimized with regards to vRAM usage (aka almost every recent AAA title) are going to have a very very very bad time. And that's... FIRESTRIKE. FIRESTRIKE! That doesn't use much vRAM at all! Imagine running something like Watch Dogs or Titanfall at 4K with one of those things. Crysis 3 and AC: Unity both can use up 6GB of vRAM at 4K as well.
    This would likely require AMD to care about the mobile market.
     
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    Well good. It'll be very competitive! Can't have AMD simply replace NVIDIA as the new monopoly. It's good to have such a closely fought battle :)

    If only we could say the same for mobile... :(



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    No, actually, this is exactly what we want. At least for one term, AMD must reign supreme over intel and nVidia, otherwise they're just gonna take it easy as usual. Good desktop cards might lead to good mobile cards too, so that'll be good (at least on the green team side). nVIdia's voltage adjustments, not keeping proper clockspeeds in SLI, recent driver issues, etc? Watch and see if their more expensive, weaker cards continue exhibiting this behaviour with any later product if AMD's on top.
     
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    In my humble opinion, the ideal market conditions are when neither company has a monopoly with both having roughly equal market share.

    Of course, the ultimate ideal conditions would require more than two GPU companies in the PC market!

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Some more performance numbers about Fury X, from AMD conference in Beijing (Far Cry 4: avg 54 fps at 4K ultra):

    [​IMG]

    That would put it significantly ahead of both GTX 980 Ti and Titan X (Far Cry 4: avg ~39 fps at 4K ultra):

    [​IMG]
     
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    I think he was just saying that, after such a long run of Intel and NVidia dominance, we need one generation where AMD just beats the snot out of both companies to give them both a wakeup call. In the long run, yeah, roughly equal marketshares is the best.
     
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    From the article I was reading they were saying the fury nano is half as fast as a 290x?
     
    Splintah, Jun 17, 2015
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    According to AMD CEO Nano is supposed to have "significantly more performance than R9 290X":

    http://www.twitch.tv/amd/v/6240136?t=1h16m12s
     
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