ATI 5000HD details leak -UPDATED

ok...for some odd reason...it seems we have been on the same page..rotflmao!
and my APOLOGIES for sounding a bit out there.

and that 134gb wasn't helping me either...lol

 

GDDR5 is quad data rate, so 1700mhz*4. Well, it still is GDDR5 3400, but has double the bandwidth per mhz compared to the other type of memory we are accustomed too, so 1700*4 for bandwidth.

The GDDR5 on my 5770 is running 1200mhz and has 75GB/s. 128bits too.

 

hummm...what are your clocks jcms?

edit:
so it is right. 134gb memory bandwidth. so im not crazy after all.
good lookin' out jcms!..lol

i just did my 5970 over clocked to 1250 and it comes out 160 gb...
so now the real question.....
10.1/4.1
hdmi 1.3a
gddr5 memory
96 sp's
512MB
....make up for not using the full bandwidth of the card.

 

Yeah that is just way too much bandwidth. GDDR5 2400 would have done the job, no idea why they used GDDR5 3400

 

could be a testing phase for them.... i really wanted to keep that card. it had another plus...no power to power it up....but i couldn't get past it not beating the 9800.....
75 bucks...i would keep it though

 

I could be wrong but I think this boils down to different marketing.
The GT 240 has 850mhz*4 GDDR5 ram(or 1700mhz*2). I'm not sure that 1700mhz*4 GDDR5 is even on the market right now. For reference an ATI 5870 has 1200mhz*4 GDDR5.
I believe nVidia markets it like that so on a store shelf someone doesn't make the mistake of thinking the 850mhz GDDR5 memory in one video card is slower than 1000mhz GDDR3 in another.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Zotac-GeForce-GT-240-AMP-Edition-Review/

 

Nvidia and it's stupid naming scheme.

 

yeah, nvidia and ati are different here...

just like nvidia's sp's use to be true...while ati's use to be 5 to 1. so you would divide 800 by 5 to get the true sp amounts.

 

But isn't that because they architecturally are different? And the equivalence is 5/1?

 

Nvidia delays Fermi to March 2010; AMD to launch new GPU in January-February: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091228PD207.html

 

so fermi will be up against the second iteration of cypress.
but i want to see some action now.

 

Great news! Nvidia had it coming, I'm glad they are falling farther and farther behind. I was tired of all the BS coming from the green team over the past several years. Now it's time to give the red team a chance. From the surprising 4xxx series to the super powerful 5xxx series, the red team is making some damn good GPU's with a lot less resources than Nvidia.

 

That's like comparing an Athlon II X4 to a Core i7. lol

 

I doubt nvidia will ever come back as strong as ATI. Nvidia is slowly falling which they surely deserve. I will never buy another nvidia product again.

 

Nah Nvidia shouldn't drop out otherwise ATI will come to a monopoly on the graphics world and we don't want that idk if they'll come back on top, but we'll see I suppose. Back and forth tug of war lasts years on end so I hope it'll keep going back and forth so that we as customers can keep getting competitive prices

 

Even if Nvidia loses to AMD / ATI this round their still undefeated on the linux front driver-wise.
ATI Catalyst for Linux is just a big mess. xD
(Unless you choose to use the open source drivers.)

Cant wait to see some benchies of the ATI Mobility HD 5850-5870.

 

TBH, 99% of people don't really care about Linux compatibility.

 

tis is true.

march means summer time for the consumer (june/july/august)

gonna have to agree with jc on this one...and besides...the 5770/5750 is smoking all them cards to begin with. better try throwing up a gtx260 or something....lol

 

Agreed... Athlon will have no chance.... quite stupid of NVDIA to count on old cards to compete with ATI's knights in shinning armor.. NVDIA has no chance here...

My heart is split here.. NVDIA cards are good... they have Phys X.. ATI has DirectX 11..

Agreed... Windows all the way. Also ATI keeps on loosing out on drivers to NVDIA... this might swing the vote for many gamers...

I wouldn't count NVDIA out yet... it's big like Intel and trying towinthe war requires a lot more victories in battles......

 

hold on now...nvidia was doing quite well with that out dated 92 chip..it went 4 years going against new tech ati kept bringing out...and it only just fell off the map....lol

 

but for the past 4 years programmers worked with a terrible OS to design software for, aka, windows vista. windows 7 is out now, dx 11 is out now... there more and maybe 'better' surfaces to cover now. so while the old chip perhaps ran great from the beginning of DX10 to the end, the roles have seemed to reverse and it looks like we might just see users hold up the 5000 series for quite a while.

 

i wouldn't jump out there on dx11 just yet...since most people cant run it at 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 maxed out with 8xaa/16xaf...so dx11 has some draw backs....

 

Mobility 5650 Bench

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5650-Graphics-Card-Review.24035.0.html

A bit disapointing.

 

I thought so too but only 3D Mark 06 is disappointing. 3D Mark Vantage score is 26% more than HD4650 and that is to be expected from a card that has 25% more stream processing than its predecessor.
GTA IV shows more than 40% improvement over HD4650 (although Core i7 surely helps in that department)
It looks like DDR3 holds this card back as in Crisis it scores a lot more than HD4670 (MSI EX625) in low and medium levels but has almost equal fps rate at high level.
Anyway in my opinion it's not as bad as I thought at first glance at 3D Mark 06 score and keep in mind that HD5730 should be somewhat faster and still affordable and available in 15&16" notebooks.

 

Anyone know if the mobility HD 5000 serious support multi-display (more than 2)?

 

it should, but, i don't think you're going to get as many multiple outputs as a desktop system.

you got the laptop display, and perhaps a vga and a dvi or hdmi output. perhaps all three.

 

Mobility 5000 should still support Eyefinity but how well it will push games at those resolutions is yet to be determined.

 

things should get interesting once they try to force [email protected]h i don't see happening(speculation of course..in the beginning)... although...dx11 looks pretty damn great at 1024x768...which totally surprised me.

 

i'm just waiting for Mobility Raedon HD 5870 GDDR5...it should pwen DirectX 11...

 

guess again....a hd5970 isn't even PWN'n dx11 at 1920x1200..so i find it very hard to believe that a mobile card would...lol

 

Not all that disappointing, pretty good considering its has DDR3 vram, should be better with GDDR3 or GDDR5 when its implemented in other lappies

 

First gen DX 11 cards aren't going to be great. The next gen should perform much better.

 

i would wait for more people to actually state that it's ddr3...could be a software error...who knows...still way to early to tell..

 

They actually dismantled the notebook and checked what was written on a memory module so it definitely is DDR3

 

Then we have DirectX 11.1! xD
But still nice to see 40nm gpus hitting future notebooks, as we all love MOAR battery time.

 

I would have expected that a Dx11 card would play Dx11 games okay.

 

link please?
other than notebookcheck.
although it is possible since it's a builtin gpu

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5650-Graphics-Card-Review.24035.0.html

 

link please?
other than notebookcheck.
although it is possible since it's a builtin gpu

look up..

edit:
what goole did they use? because i googled it and it comes back notebookcheck.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ial&hs=L89&q=G63BFR&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

 

When I linked it, you hadn't mentioned the bit about notebookcheck yet.

I was wondering why you'd ask. lol

Well, I'll give it a shot and see what I come up with.

LOOK AT LATER POST

<s> http://www.searchlighttech.com/searchResults.cfm?part=H5TQ1G63BFR-11C

http://www.searchlighttech.com/searchResults.cfm?source=FeaturedVendorPage&description=5TQ1G63BFR

Which in turn leads to

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...11C&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a</s>

 

ahh, i see what i did..i had a space where there shouldn't be one. 5TQ1 G63BFR

looks to be an automotive relay
http://www.alldatasheet.com/view.jsp?sSearchword=H5TQ1G63BFR-12C&CFID=61526588&CFTOKEN=52269271

so...this laptop is using a automotive relay huh?

rotflmao

or my googling needs help tonight.

 

Your googling needs help. lol
That page showed up for me earlier too, but I'm not sure how I got there.

Try the link below. It shows up.

http://www.hynix.com/inc/pdfDownload.jsp?path=/datasheet/Databook/Q4'09_Databook_GraphicsMemory.pdf

 

ah, that's much better. thanks DT
going to use this to see what memory is on my 5970

 

No problem, glad to help.

No automotive relays in this GPU.

 

From Beyond3d:

 

^ That can't be right. The Broadways should be 256-bit, the Madisons 128-bit and the Parks 64-bit. I think that guys' just guessing.

 

Does that poster have a legit source or established credentials?

Otherwise it means nothing to me.

 

That means Cypress is not hitting the notebook market. The mobility 5800 series are thus based on the desktop 5700 series (Juniper)

We are still having something to kick the GTX280m though.

This is what makes the most sense imo.

@30W & 128bits, you can have the 5850M in a standard-sized 15''. Think about the possibilities. Basically the same power as the current 4870/4850M, but 2/3rd of the power consumption & heat.

 

For AMD based stuff yes, he came out with quite a bit of the 5xxx desktop chips information(performance and features) before release. Search for his name on beyond3d.com or the dutch site tweakers.net if you want to do some background checking.

I would be surprised if anything there is incorrect at all.

 

So either get a 5870, 5850, or 5750. Those are the high-end parts.