ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2600 graphics with 512MB GDDR3

also it took me like 2 hours to figure out what i was doing wrong...thats anothe reason i wanna help u...cuz i messed up alot but now it runs wicked will not be changing sttings...lol only adding spyware detectors and antivirus stuff now...i love it and u should seriously think about doing this again...its made a huge diff for me man..my hd2600 does better than a dude scoring 6500 3dmark06 marks...i dont get more 3dmark points but i get better temps and 7fps more in crysis...lol..just braggin rights..

 

cpuz hwmonitor rmclock dont install dude they run as a exe?/

 

sigh now im worried that just watchin a video online my fan went into high mode. it never did that over the past few days of owning it. EVER. now i think its janky permanently lol. i mean then nothing was undervolted or overclocked, and at factory, the fan pretty much NEVER went into high mode. Not even during games. Now it's doing it during youtube videos. Very concerning. I should just exchange it n cut my losses lol. I'm not this adventurous by nature. I get too nervous. now im worried i'll never get it working as good as it was fresh out of the box like it was 3-4 days ago.

 

lol i noticed that with mine also dude...not sure why but its starting to really **** me off...but mind u when its cool the fan never kicks in and stays at 30c...win some u lose some..lol *** just checked my gpu and mem speeds too see if its at default...lol they read 594...594...man this wines getting to me...

 

ok man im a very nice dude...pretty smart ...and i wanna help ...if u want a faster graphics card and cooling running comp thats safer than gateway defaults...say yes...if not i gotta go ..wasting my time...and take it back then if ur that paranoid stop smoking weed..cuz dude nothings wrong with it..ur getting the same issues i had..and i know what u did wrong..i didnt tell u exactly what to do..but its kinda your own fault..u wanted simple simple directions...u need to do morethan just simple things to make this work...might need to cange 10 settings...and if your paranoid lol get a peice of paper and write down everything u change...*** dont say its messed and your paranoid but u dont write down the default values u changed...u should be cautious not paranoid..

so for the last time...do u want cool temps stability and speed...or do u want standard hot and slow?

 

and man...mines better than fresh outta the box

outta the box it ran flipin hot 86c
outta the box i got 3300 3dmarks
outta the box it lagged in crysis and mass effect

changed and it runs flippen cool
changed and 4300 marks(1000extra find acard that scores 1thousand even thats a decent laptop card, and lol thats just my cards improvement)
changed and crysis runs flippen fast...mass effect is a joke now runs crazy

effort took 4 min to change..and everytime i star up i spend 1 min or less changing clock speeds ...and worth it

 

lol, is the procedures that dangerous? sounds like you guys are attempting to short circuit an explosive or something. Anyways, it can't be that bad right? Just remember the steps and restore settings if theres a mess up.

I actually find undervolting really really easy, and it lowered my temps by 5-7C. Im all for teaching someone else if they need help!

 

wiley u have a great attitude...i wanna help this dude undvolt and over lclock because of my results..i can now play games for hours without getting hot...it runs cooler than factory settings ..and im overclocked 100mhz on mem and core...and temp is 13c lower always

 

lol and wiley i finally got proof that the 8600m gt ddr3 overclocked is better at benchmarks..but the hd2600 overclocked gets faster framerates(7fps_extra) in crysis..i wont lie just tell it as it was...so all the argueing over 3dmark is just crap...regret caring..

also very nice 3dmark06 score...its higher than a desktop hd2600xt overclocked to 1 ghz 1100 mem....

I thought the 8600 was the next 7600 gs..lol
yours get more than a 7950gtx.and more than a 9650m gt
lol u get more than 2 7800gtx in sli

and only 1000 below a 8800m gts...basically u can run crysis on high at about 30fps...
lol and 2400 points above average...WOW i want your card...how much did it cost man
technically thats what your score says...thats the reason its there right to meazure performance to compare?

 

yeh, i think you might be right on that, but i'll never know since i don't own crysis. Must be nice to be able to run the supposedly named hardware killer on your hd 2600 and still have it look good huh.

Btw how much are you undervolting by? Im running a 2.2ghz t7500 and undervolting it from 1.250 to 1.050, ive attempted a 1.0 v b4 but wasnt sure if it'll affect my gaming performance and so in the mean time Im leaving it as is.

 

yeh and my 3dmark score isnt even close to the highest ive seen someone achieve on this card. A guy over @ dell xps claims that he got 6.8k in 3dmark06 when overclocked to 715/950..

I wish i had those numbers. It'll probably boost fps in game by another~3-5. But unfortunately my card will downclock past 890 in memory..

 

hola crap bro thats insane.....

yea crysis runs well on the hd2600...never expected that but its a nice suprise..
a dude ran it with exact settings in a photo..showed his over clock ect...i did the same test same setting just to see how close i would get...and after i did it i couldnt elieve i was 7fps faster without an overclock...wierd considering crysis has a nvidia add when u start up the game...btw i dont even like the game just the visuals..

i gto mine undervolted to 0.9500 on all except 11x and 12 x mult..those are both 1 step and 2 steps up in voltage...i turn them off as the 2ghz never gets used anyways..no point in getting a faster proccessor these days..i think its the gpus that need to get better before i consider buying a gaming laptop...mind u i can play crysis on high....medium shadows of course...on this for 800..so i dont mind bumping down rez slowing over the next two years..and they money i save should be able to buy an even nice gaming rig with a gpu that is actually ahead of the current games...pretty weird seeing the games ahead of the gpus


orry about my grammar and spelling im typing in the dark..drinking wine

 

only thing i wonder and cant find the answer to...is i know our stick clocks are roughly giving the same 3dmark06 scores...i wonder what the lv2go driver are doing to the iq to make them get such high scores..becuase if i overclocked to 665/740 i should get roughly what u get...but the crappy deal with ati..is of course...the crappy drivers

 

For those that got over 4k on 3dmark06, did you uninstall your video drivers before updating to the catalyst 8.8? I didn't and wonder if that is why I can't break 4k. I seem to have the same setup as most of you, just can't figure out why mine seems to lag behind.

 

Maybe some apps running in the back ground?

 

Possibly... I shut down sidebar. I will see if there are any others running in the background that I can turn off too. I'm at work, so I won't know for quite a while.

 

sorry for disappearing ryan but my computer was defragmenting and i was toasted and needed to call it a night.

i frankly don't know if my network was just messing up or what, but when i saw the laptop itself start reacting badly and getting very hot when i tinkered with things, i freaked the f*ck out. i wanted something simple and was freaking out i'd messed it up. I don't handle stress very well. And whether my wifi router sux or whatever what caused my internet to go on the fritz in a big way, I don't know, but if so it couldn't have come at a worse time to compound my fears.

Im at work now but i pray that when i get home it works like it used to again. Maybe if it does I'll be more open to trying this whole thing again. Otherwise if it's still messed up I might exchange it. I haven't really put TOO much stuff on it that i'd hafta redownload so all it'd waste would be time, but sometimes for peace-of-mind that is worth some time

 

Yes I uninstalled my drivers and then reinstalled the news one, I used AMD GPU Clock Tool and had it set at 614/729 4,242 3DMark06 Score.

 

@Slayer, did you try to power cycle your modem & router?

@x360, I'll uninstall and reinstall.

****, I knew I should have brought my laptop to work with me! LOL

 

yea i restarted my modem and router like 2 times. when i thought "great ive f*cked it all up", i did that windows rewind thing, and restored my system to it's settings from the day before.

once it did that though, it was connecting to my wifi, but saying "local only" and wouldn't actually connect to the internet. no matter what i did it wouldnt connect to the internet

then i undid the system restore, and it started connecting to the internet but was touch n go for a while. It may be working now but frankly i was too frustrated to stay up later to find out after it finished defragmenting.

 

Not sure if it helps, the first day or two was a royal pain for me to get my laptop to connect to my router. I was only able to do it by leaving my router unsecure to get the laptop to connect to it. Then I changed it to add security settings and matched them on the laptop and its worked since. For some reason it wouldn't work unless I made it open first.

 

yea that's the thing though, got the computer friday afternoon, and it worked as soon as it got it home flawless w/ the internet n router. put in the security code n was good to go. worked flawless on saturday and sunday too. then i toy w/ that clock stuff on monday, and it is acting like the internet doesn't even exist anymore lol. so i associated 1 thing with the other.

oh well im over it. im fine w/ leaving well enough alone. if the computer works fine when i get home from work today, i'll feel better and assume it was my internet acting up, and maybe give overclocking another shot w/ some better advice. but if not i am gonna exchange it at best buy for another and assume i did inadvertantly do something that effed the computer up

 

Any luck Slayer?

I am quite happy. I know it's just a number, but I finally broke 4k and did it in style! 4306 with settings of 620/720. Only thing I can think of is that I used official 8.8 drivers instead of the beta.

 

okay well last night my laptop seemed to be working fine. It did lock up for 15 seconds when writing an email, but then was fine. Just makes me nervous on a new computer when i could still exchange it, ya know?

But I'm cautiously optimistic that maybe i wont hafta exchange it.

 

I was thinking about buying the 6920 or 8920 but seeing how many people got faulty units, i am thinking about the Gateway M-6874H with this graphics card.

How well will this run games like Bioshock, Gears and Orange Box and how will this do with similar games in the future? also is 15.4" too small for gaming?

 

LKR123, I am very happy with the ati 2600 in this laptop. At default it runs well and on top of it all it overclocks very well. I don't have Bioshock or Gears, but I have tried Orange Box and the frame rates have been good (can't say the same for my play though LOL).

My desktop has a 20" lcd and I don't mind the 15.4" lcd on this.

 

I satisfied with my slower DDR2 HD2600 as well. And I game on a 14".

 

Didn't you get banned?

And anyhow, 3DMark doesn't quite represent real world gaming performance.

 

edit:delete wrong thread

 

hey read all the info you guys have been presenting, i got a pickle of a decision, i am looking at the dell xps 256mb 8600m gt vs the gateway i have currently, 512mb 2600hd ati, now nvidia has known to have heat issues and stuff so my question is which one should i go for? i like the gateway but the xps has better cpu better hd and more ram, so like the only thing that is stopping me is the nvidia overheating issue and such. :s

 

Which Gateway? Most of them have 4GB now...

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the gateway is 6874h, and i am in canada this is the cheapest gateway with amazing specs, it has 3gb ram,

but my main concern is the xps heating issues, any recent xps customers want to comment?

 

Are you looking at the one at Staples? That is a good deal at $800.

You should also look at the M-6864FX at Best Buy. It has Vista 64, 4 GB RAM, 200 GB 7200 RPM drive. On sale it is about $850.

The 6874h has a classier look, Bluetooth, Vista 32, less RAM and a bigger/slower HDD.

The XPS that is in the price range in Canada usually has an 8400m GS - about half as powerful as the 2600.

 

thanks for ur help, the xps i was looking at costs 1199 and comes with one year complete care, with t8300 2.4ghz 4gb ram and 320 hd

the gateway is $749 t5750 2.0ghz 3gb ram 250 hd
but cause of the issue of the xps and the fan running all the time i am going with the gateway and putting the money i save into a gaming desktop pot

 

pretty good job guys i got a 4232 on my 3dmark06 thanks to you guys

my laptop currently running cooler and better graphing

i use to have a dell 1520 with a 8600GT card now playing the same game with my 2600hd pretty much on par with the 8600 if not better great jobs love the undervolting ideas



btw i have the gateway M6864fx too i was gonna get the 9700gt asus G50 x-1 version but this will do


i spoke a little too soon in need for speed pro street the game stutter, it not bad but it does get annoying anyone know the reason for this?

 

I've been playing a lot of GRID lately and it runs great.

Yeah, thats the right idea. Get the Core 2 Duo refurbed desktop from Futureshop for $279 and an 8800GT from NCIX for $99. You even have some dough left for a monitor.

 

what are you clock at??? for some reason 630/730 make it stutter alot during play

 

I don't think the 6864FX is an opton in Canada, unless he arranges something in the US. The Canada models usually end in 'h'.

But, yeah, even if the 6862 is still on sale, that would also be good.
I think it has a 5400rpm drive, though.


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"I only come to NBR to see what avatar Dook has today"

 

I live in Canada and got one at my local Best Buy. Its on the Bestbuy.ca website too.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10107933&catid=25253

The 'H' only signifies the French keyboard layout.

 

Stock. No need to OC. You gain almost nothing and the extra heat causes the problem you have - thermal throttling.

 

Does the 512mb runs much better in games then the 265 GGDR3 ??

 

No. Memory clock speed is still the same, and the GPU isn't strong enough to be able to use 512MB VRAM to its full capability. If anything, it's more of a marketing gimmick.

 

ok, i tought the 512 version was a lot better, but seems they are equal in all things except the 512mb/256

 

256MB VRAM is going to be the sweet spot for most mid- to low-end GPUs like the HD2600/Geforce 8600. 512MB VRAM would be what you want for GPUs that can actually handle moderately high resolution gaming, like the HD3870/Geforce 9700m GTS and above.

 

I checked this laptop out aswell, but like i was wondering if the higher rpm make the hd run hotter?, cause i really want a nice and cool lappy lol
and how much of a advantage would i see between 5400 and 7200 like time wise copying a 7gb file?

and the other bad part is that its 1000 again

 

what if you overclock would that 512 actually come into play?

 

No, not really. One of the main reasons is the 128 bit memory bus width compared to 256 bit bus in those higher-end cards. It highly limits the bandwidth and overclocking won't really help it. 256 MB is more than enough for mid-range cards.

 

if all of this is over a ATI Radeon card, from my personal perspective, nVIDIA 8600 sucks balls compared to my Crysis results from my ATI Radeon 2600 XT clocked at: 700 ENGINE, 800 MEMORY and the % for defective cards from nVIDIA is on the rise. I think 2/100 people with nVIDIA cards are now expeirencing some defective part, be it the core, or the memory, compared to the 1/200 for the ATI people.

Not only that, but the actual specs down to the bone, suggest the 2600XT should be way better then 8600. The speed, trans count, memory, shader, and stream processors count/speed is far better then the 8600.

I can play Crysis at High detail with 28FPS.

Secondly, your EYE cannot detect anything BEYOND 30 FPS so a card that jacks out 60FPS at high, compared to one that jacks out 28 FPS at high looks the same, functions the same, and is still clearer.

nVIDIA is all about FPS, but when it come to image quality, ATI is the king, and has ben for years.

So, the image quality of the 2600 will, and I mean will be better then the 8600, but the FPS may not be, but if it reaches 20+ it usally looks really smooth. Once you hit 30FPS or highr, your eye just can't see a difference betwen 30 and 60.

I am so impressed by 60, if it looks the same as 30 (NOT!)

So just get over, ATI 2600 is better in all benchmarks then the 8600.

Debate over.

 

Sorry, but I haven't seen any debate going on in this thread, so you propably posted in a wrong thread. Or did I miss something?

 

**** too bad i dont have a 2600 xt then i have a pro i can do 630/730 or 700/540 **** i wonder how will that do on crysis, not that i'm playing the game or anything but overclocking and seeing the performance make me kinda addicted to doing it


btw 512mb gddr3 is really a waste?