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    Any Idea about Nvidia 800M series..

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by sasuke256, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Cloudfire

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    Specifications of GTX 880M according to it168.

    GTX 880M
    GM104
    3072 or 3328 cores (undecided which ES will be the final design)
    28nm
    8GB GDDR5
    256bit memory bus

    I can confirm that the GTX 880M ES you can buy now have 8GB GDDR5. :mask:
    I`m not sure if 28nm is correct though, but who knows.

    A full GM104 have 3840 cores.

    Its looking out to be a pretty sick upgrade from GTX 780M!
     
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    Looking to be a worthy upgrade from 680m for sure, probably even 780m. I've been saving my pennies for my SLI 880m 17" beast. :D
     
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    8GB GDDR5? Holy moly! That's more than a Titan and pretty much every other GPU on the market (as of now).
     
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    That seems like a waste of money. I'm assuming those are 512MB GDDR5 modules then? 4GB is more than adequate really. But anyhow, it's shaping up to be a nice config. It could very likely be 28nm, I don't think they're going 22 or 20nm at this point in time.
     
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    Oh, my...i can't even imagine the price of that thing. lol :D
     
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    knowing that 1 Maxwell core = 1/2 kepler core, then we can expect the GTX 880M to be a little bit faster than the 780M..
    still we havent any idea about the release date..
     
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    I need more money... gotta be a money tree hiding around here somewhere...
     
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    I`m enjoying my GTX 770M SLI notebook, so when Alienware offer GTX 880M SLI, I might go that route too. 2014 will be a fun year for you and me HT :)

    Yup, its a bit much GDDR5 for sure. Just to compare, GTX 870M ES out there have 6GB GDDR5 btw.
    I think but I`m not sure, that Nvidia is perhaps shooting for 4K resolutions this generation. Atleast 3K. There are several OEMs out with notebooks with 3K displays now. MSI recently started selling GT60 with 2880x1620, Dell also have a 15" with high resolution, so perhaps Nvidia are hoping to market the GPUs as ready for high res gaming?

    LOL start saving up now buddy :)

    Where have you heard that?
     
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    Absolutely. I may even look at an Alienware this time around, depends on cost of course. And a 3K screen would be marvelous, barring any significant downsides that come from having that tech.
     
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    logical analysis: we cant fit a TITAN TDP in a laptop's GTX 880M tdp @ 28nm, so we can expect a ratio of reduction, which would give us kepler eq. of 1536-17xx cuda cores on the GTX 880M which makes more sense that 3072 CC :D
     
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    Oh I see. But there will be efficiency gains with a new architecture, dont you think? If 1 Maxwell core = 1/2 Kepler core, it means that with 3072 cores it will be equal to GTX 780M (1536 cores). Surely Nvidia won`t put out something with no gains. If there are no gains, then there would be no point increasing core count right?

    Pretty sure we both will be surprised with GTX 880M :)


    You should. I thought my MSI GT70 was pretty quiet. Compared to my dual GPU Alienware 18 its actually like a freaking leaf blower. It really opened my eyes. So if you cherish quietness, go for Alienware.
    Also the IPS display is just amazing. Colours are really good and it have the advantages of glossy displays, but have almost no reflections.

    Well worth the premium Alienware charge. But they have coupons and rebates all over the place at any time, so you can get it pretty cheap anyways :)
     
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    of course there will be architectural gains, kind of 10% or 15% :) so we can expect a GTX 770+ @ stock perf in it :)
     
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    Will be interesting to see for sure. I hope we will see someone benching those ES soon :)
     
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    hell yes, we need GPU-z screenshots + 3d mark 11 :D it will show if we got some nice bump in perfs or not !
     
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    Doesn't help that I'm currently still out of a job despite finishing my degree months ago. Makes the search for a job even more urgent!
     
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    Well that is a shame. Oh well, atleast you have the top Kepler card. You are probably settled for a few years if you are willing to sacrifice some visual settings in the future :)
     
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    That's what I'm worried about.
     
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    That's the one problem. I hate glossy displays with a passion. I don't care what benefit they offer, they don't for me. I can't handle the glare and reflection.
     
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    so it seems like no thin and light gtx 880m laptops for me. maybe the gigabtye p35k is good enough. :cry:
     
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    That was a given since the get go, I don't understand why you would want the strongest mobile GPU in a thin laptop anyways, they already get hot with lower tier GPU's, I for one do not want to see them cram high end gpu's in ultrabooks, if I wanted an ultrabook I would get one .
     
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    Why not Sager NP7330 / Clevo W230ST?

    In four years 880m power will be available in thin and light ;)
     
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    But it will already be outdated. ;)
     
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    I wish Alienware would bring back the m15x. The 14" model is too weak and the 17" and 18" models are just too big.
     
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    They just need to work on putting more powerful components in the M14x. It has the size and weight of most 15" notebooks. Why not fit a GTX 770m in there at least?
     
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    What is the word again? Market segmentation? Any mba or executives going to chime in?
     
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    You will never find an x80M in a thin and light laptop. If you want thin and light, get x65M.
     
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    What amazes me (inb4 called a fanboy) is how no one is imitating Lenovo by repurposing their DVD drive for a second GPU in SLI. They could totally SLI dual 765's in the AW 14!
     
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    Kind of a good idea. But they could easily fit a 770m in there, and it would be less power, less, heat, and not far behind 765m SLI. Heck even a special clocked 770m, or even 775m (if it ever exists)
     
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    I agree. That would be a nightmare. It's a fire hazard. :p
     
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    Thin machines can't use MXM slots, they add too much height.

    If you don't use an MXM slot then the GDDR5 needs to placed on the motherboard, 192bit/256bit GDDR5 take a lot of motherboard space and can easily add layers to the entire motherboard which gets more and more expensive the more layers you add.

    There is a good reason the 760/765 cut the memory width more than cutting cores/clocks.
     
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    so from where can i buy 880m es? i would love to try it out :) will 880m sli be worthy upgrade from 780m sli?
     
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    They are not even announced yet.
     
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    Let us know if you take the chance. The seller is an reliable source (Murong spider, big reseller in China).
    Says he have 4 in stock. Pretty stiff price but you will be the first to bench it.

    :biggrin:


    [US$1,148.25] [Notebook parts] NVIDIA NVIDIA N15E-GTX-A1 A2 GTX880M 8GB earthlings video memory P375SM

    [US$599.32] [Notebook parts] N15E-GS-A1 A2 GTX870M 6GB graphics card NVIDIA NVIDIA 2014 Earth people
     
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    In my Taken voice: "Good Luck"

    I'll bet it's a 780M with 8GB VRAM.

    Edit: hmmm

    880M = N15E-GTX-A1
    780M = N14E-GTX-A(1?)

    Yeah go for it.
     
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    So I'm planning on buying a gaming laptop sometime but I'm in no rush, I'm guessing it would be better to wait for the 800M series next spring rather than buy now?

    Also, how much of a gain are we looking at in the mid-gpu range of the 800m series over the 700m series?
     
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    Mid range : april/may as ever :)
    High end : 1st june more or less ..
     
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    780M = N14E-GTX-A2 It might be a different chip. But why 8Gb??
     
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    4K resolution probably.
     
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    I`m not sure what to think about the 8GB. It could be that much because its an ES sample where the Nvidia engineers have experimented with various resolutions and software to bring the GPU to its knees to figure out where it stands.

    We will see. I hope someone with cash to burn will try to get hold of that GTX 880M. I`m very curious how it perform.
     
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    well i live in malaysia so i am near china guys :)
     
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    they litteraly doubled the amount of memory on board :/ useless !
     
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    Nvidia has really been harping on the next-gen consoles lately, so I was thinking they may throw 8GB GDDR5 on their next flagships, just to be able to say they have as much GDDR5 as the PS4.
     
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    Are you gonna try ordering it? Dont blame me if he doesnt deliver though. Its always a risk involved buying these unknown cards. :)
     
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    I doubt a single 880M (retail version) will have 8GB's of vRAM. It's probably a developers card or something. Whatever it is, I'd be willing to bet it's not the average consumer gaming card. If the 880M is going to have 8GB's of vRAM, I can't imagine anything being able to use all of that memory, especially with an SLI setup having 16GB's between the two.

    It would be a waste for a laptop, unless you were running an eyefinity setup of 30" 2560x1600 monitors, or something like that... I suppose having that possibility would be nice, though, for high-end laptops. But it just seems like overkill, in my opinion.
     
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    Yeah I agree. Extremely overkill. I don`t think there are any games available that even touch the 4GB VRAM usage. 3.5GB is the biggest I`ve seen and that was with Crysis 3 with like 8xMSAA enabled. All that anti-aliasing is powerful enough to bring even the greatest desktop cards down to its knees on low res
     
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    The k5100m run 8gb already, and I don't think anything going to use that up really.
     
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    I suppose only time will tell. It will be very interesting to see how the 880M turns out. As Cloud mentioned, there aren't any games that exceed 4GB's of vRAM, especially at 1080p. But, if manufacturers start offering higher resolution screens on their gaming systems, an 8GB card may be necessary for games coming out in 2014.

    Crysis 3 chomps up that vRAM already (topping out at nearly 4GB's), and that game is almost a year old? And BF4 recommends cards with 4GB's of vRAM. I can't imagine what we'll be seeing over the next 2 - 3 years, in that regard. An 8GB card is definitely plausible.
     
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    The difference between 765M SLI and a single 770M is about the same as if you compared the long 770M to a long 780M. Notebookcheck will confirm this.

    Also, the 765M is supposedly in the 50-75w TDP bracket, so two in SLI should be only another 25-50w more than a single 770M on average. That wouldn't really bend minds all too much in my opinion... :p One 770M vs two 765Ms... I'd take the SLI option any day.
     
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    That GPU is a Quadro card, meaning it is used for workstation workflows that use really big files so it may need 8GB.

    Just to give you an idea:
    Tesla K40 it is a Quadro card, it have 2880 cores and 12GB of VRAM (lol).
    GTX 780 Ti have also 2880, it is a Geforce card, it have 3GB of VRAM.

    780 Ti surely isnt made to play on petty 1080p, so Nvidia who designed it must have known that 3GB is more than enough at res above 1080p.
     
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