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    Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by usapatriot, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    Woo, guess I'll play a few games tonight when I get home! I haven't touched the game in weeks O_O
     
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    Meh, it's as annoying as it was before... maybe even moreso
     
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    Im not aure about that, but the health packs are super fast
     
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    What key are you using to brake ? Cause it's hard-coded to "S". I spent months trying to brake, untill Falco here told me it was hardcoded. I pressed S, and i stalled after 10 seconds, way to go ! :D

    There's a program out there called BF3 settings editor ( Downloads - BF3 Settings Editor - Realmware BF3 Tools ), that allows you to change every key-bind ingame.
    Happy Huntin' !
     
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    I used that and swapped hard brake to space bar while s is used to pull the nose up.

    I have noticed that after the patch I have to delete and rebind hard brake for jet each time I reopen bf3 ( using bf3 binding tabs). I always verify in cockpit that brakes are working.
     
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    Has the M16 or AK74 changed at all? I feel like I'm playing worse in TDM.
     
  7. Falco152

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    Every weapon in the game is changed. So you need to relearn them all and the new suppression.
    Try using burst fire instead full auto.

    I haven't played with the configs in post patch.
    In pre-patch, Q, S (keyboard) and button 7 (joystick) was hardcoded to something.

    And yes, the laser painter hud is still broken. :(
    But the flight marker doesn't break as often.
     
  8. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    What's the new suppression like? Is it just "more of it"?
     
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    user.cfg doesn't work any more? Hit detection is just as horrible as it was before if not worse. So many time (again) I'd get the jump on someone, get a half dozen bullets in them, yet they keep going and I end up dead.

    edit: ok, suppression effect is just horrific now so is the ground shake.
     
  10. Falco152

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    user.cfg works fine.

    Suppression is way over the top.
    Forced squads to make sure they got at least cover enable and tac on the suppression perk on.
     
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    Hmm, because my user.cfg changes don't take affect at all. Most telling is the Render.DrawFPS 1 doesn't turn on counter, but it works if I do it through console in game.
     
  12. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    So I just played a few rounds, and WOW the suppression effect is thick (not really sure what to think of it atm)! Did they nerf the 870MCS? It seemed like each dude took around 2-3 pumps to finally drop from close-medium range. Haven't really noticed anything else except for the fact that I'm having fun again, was MVP in my last game of Rush. Guess my "break" from the game paid off a lil'.

    Oh, and apparently the US jeep has bulletproof windows?! I think this has been since day 1 but I'm just noticing it now. That's crazy...I was like, peppering this jeep with my 870 trying to kill the passenger who was like 5 inches away from me and he's all like "lolyoucan'tkillmedumbo".
     
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    I kinda like the extra suppression and new weapon handling. Seems more realistic to me.
     
  14. Falco152

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    Render.DrawFps 1 on loadup works fine on mine.

    I thought only the transport cars are the only ones with bulletproof windows.

    However, you can blow off the doors with nades, rockets, and frag rounds.
    Then shoot the guy inside the car.

    Also, standing on top of 2 ammo crates instantly refills your nades.

    On some maps, you only need 1 ammo crate to do the same thing. Especially strike on karkand.
     
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    Huh, weird. I copied my user.cfg data, deleted my user.cfg file, created a new user.cfg, pasted contents, and now it works.

    I just don't like how you can nail a jeep with an RPG and it only "disables" it and the passengers walk out with nary a scratch.
     
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    DirtyTrickster Notebook Evangelist

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    The new mortar rules stink. If you backed into your base, kiss your goodbye. You have no shot of getting out.
     
  17. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    all i know is that they improved the as val massively, it handles like a dream on semi auto now, and it has an extended clip of 30 instead of 20, which makes it great for all around use.
     
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    I think the 870MCS is nerfed by the new suppression if you are being shot at (wider spread). By the way, I wonder if flechette ammo can pierce through jeep windows? I'm sure the 50 cal can... right?
     
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    DirtyTrickster Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone else have a problem with "hard brake" in the jets? I have to delete it and rebind it every time I execute bf3.
     
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    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    Game is dead to me now, im quite sick of having to relearn the game every time a patch is released. DICE = roll the dice and hope for the best.
     
  21. Falco152

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    I pretty much ended sticking a bipod on all my guns.
    At least they admit the suppression was way too much even though they tested with a much higher suppression.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    Notice that the spent cases falls out of the minigun of the little bird.

    The predictive sight now controls where the tracer round goes.

    Laser designating boxing of the F18 is on the wingtip and the Z11 is on its engine.

    Edit: Forgot to Note

    Heatseekers Against Jets
    Mobile AA > Helo >> Jets

    Stingers/Iglas Against Jets
    Much higher chance of getting hit by and instant disable.

    Also, getting hit by 2 or more stingers at the same time seems nullify or significantly reduce damage.
     
  22. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahh yeah, I'll try flechette rounds next time.
    And I'm starting to enjoy the new suppression effects (at least when I'm not the one being suppressed :D ). It's fun to spray an area with lots of dudes and have them waving their guns around trying to find the source

    And I guess if you're killed by a mortar, there is no more kill cam? Or maybe that was because of the server I was on...
     
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    DirtyTrickster Notebook Evangelist

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    What's with the grenades? They explode then you can still see them for a second or so after the explode? I never know if there is another nade there or not!
     
  24. ikethegreat

    ikethegreat Notebook Consultant

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    Me too! About time they gave the support class a little boost...

    I love being able to spray the area around a sniper, confusing the hell out of them, and making them easy pickings.
     
  25. Krzr93

    Krzr93 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I saw on the battlelog some users have gotten a FPS drop since the patch (including me). Anyone else notice this with your systems?
     
  26. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    Nope, no FPS drop, but that might have something to do with actual working drivers from ATI that let crossfire do its thing.

    Apparently my joystick works with BF3, which makes me happy, since now I won't get into a jet and crash instantly (yes, I am that bad of a pilot with a mouse or kb, I crash before I push any buttons!).
     
  27. Torment78

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    i got some fps drop thought it might have been some shanges in the setting but they are still the same
    i have also seen i got a much higher ping then before onthe same servers as before i use to have 45 on one server now on same 95+
     
  28. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    No FPS drop for me either.

    And no worries Patrick, every time I hop into a jet/heli this is usually how it goes...

    "Oh cool, there's an open jet!" *spawns*
    "hey ton247, gtfo of that jet n00b LOL"
    "Don't worry guys, I got this" *proceeds to ascend/take off
    "Hmm...now how do I change camera angles again?" *flies directly into mountain*

    -OR-
    *proceeds to ascend/take off*
    "Enemy plane spotted!" *begins to pewpew but has no idea how to shoot jet guns accurately*
    "Hmm, well this isn't working well, guess I'll just fly closer"
    *speeds up but manages to lodge the plane into 2nd story windows*

    Yeah...it's that bad lol
    I really miss the dive-bombing aspect of flying from BF: 1942. I don't know how it happened but I actually got pretty decent at it.
     
  29. ikethegreat

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    I've given up trying to fly jets and helicopters. Too frustrating for me.
     
  30. DirtyTrickster

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    I stink at flying, but continue to do it. I have maybe a 5-50 record while in the jet. Those 5 keep me coming back :)
     
  31. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Flying really isn't that hard guys, the insta vehicle spawn servers kinda suck though.
     
  32. Falco152

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    It rather unfortunate that instant server is a great way to learn to fly but it also the worst way as well due to those servers are usually populated by very experienced pilots.

    The flight model in the game is really easy but the learning curve get steeper as time goes on.
     
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    My problem is that I can't shoot anyone down. I have no problem tailing them, I just can't hit them with mini gun. Every once in awhile I'll get lucky with heat seekers, but is like to master the mini gun.
     
  34. postman

    postman Notebook Guru

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    Hello guys can you tell me what settings and screen resolution I can play bf3 if its even possible (what fps im getting?:

    Sager np8690
    Core i7 820qm
    6gb 1333 mhz
    gtx 280m
    155gb hdd 7200rpm

    online: 15 mbps download/1mb upload

    Thanks
     
  35. HTWingNut

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    Should manage no problem at 1080p with low settings, probably some medium. Just keep shadows at low. Use the WorldRender.DxDeferredCSPatheEnable 0 option to gain an extra few FPS (well maybe as many as 10).
     
  36. Falco152

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    That takes a long time to master the gun.
    But the trick is aiming ahead of him but not on him.

    Flankers are seriously easy to kill cause of their much larger profile.

    Also, each aircraft has a sweet spot that allow you to kill them pretty fast.
     
  37. oan001

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    I would guess around 30-40 fps at all low. Had a 285m in my system before upgrading. If you can afford it the 6970m gives you double the performance :)
     
  38. ryandavid1a

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    Hi everyone,
    I've been trying to run bf3 on my laptop recently and I am barely getting 25-30 fps on all low/ 1366x768. I've got a mobility radeon 5650 on my envy 14. I know its not the best computer but I thought I would have been able to run it on all low. Any ideas?
     
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    Did you try in the command console:

    worldrender.dxdeferredcspathenable 0

    If it works make a user.cfg file in your BF3 directory and put it in there.
     
  40. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    The 5650 is a mid-range graphics card, not really for top-end gaming (which BF3 definitely is)...not to mention the Mobility version is not even as powerful.
     
  41. DirtyTrickster

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    Do Jets ever get an upgrade to their mini gun? I feel like im hitting other jets but they never go down. Yet once someone hits me I go down like a rock.
     
  42. HTWingNut

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    5650m isn't a very powerful card, but 6650m cards are able to manage 720p at a respectable 40-50fps, heck even my Llano IGP 6620G can manage 720p all low at ~ 30FPS. I think the worldrender.dxdeferredcspathenable 0 command has helped in most cases adding 5-8 FPS.

    You will know if you score a hit by getting white X's in the middle of your screen. However I know the feeling all too well. I can get a gazillion X's and they just keep on going, yet I hear a few dings and zings against my jet or chopper and I go down immediately or blow up.
     
  43. Falco152

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    Except he is pushing much lower fps in lowest setting than my current medium setting for the 5650. He should be able to hold 30 fps on medium with max draw distance on almost all the maps.

    And if he only fly around, definitely over 60 fps.

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    There are sweet spots on the jet and the chopper that allows you get the kill pretty fast despite the jet cannon nerf.

    Almost don't forget, most of the experienced pilots would use maintenance perk which pretty much bring us back to full hp on your second pass attempt.

    I do love how much easier to take out infs with the jets now.
     
  44. DirtyTrickster

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    Finally had some luck with jets. Unlocked starting at missile pods up to extinguisher in one sitting. Most of my points came from taking down choppers and tanks, but I had a jet kill or two. My problem is I get too jumpy when going after jets. All and all I'm happy with it. 21-9 for the round. All in the air. :D
     
  45. DirtyTrickster

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    Can you tell me where the sweet spots are?
     
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    Does the game seem like it is over run with cheaters to you guys?

    It seems like I keep getting on servers where weird things happen that are not explainable and there is always someone just cleaning house.

    Spawn -> die -> Spawn -> die
    Headshot (visually confirmed through my sniper rifle scope) -> guys turns around 1 shot I am dead like he did not even need to take time to aim.
    Shooting choppers with a Javelin via SOFLAM does not even make the damn thing smoke.

    I have just gotten very put off with BF3 lately as it seems I cant get a decent session in.
     
  47. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Cheats or (more likely) some bugs still included from the patch.
    Choppers are still the gods flying around and it feels nearly impossible to do a good Javelin hit on them.
    The transport chopper is way easier to kill off though.

    But i cant say i found that many hackers while playing.
    Currently in love with the rebuffed M1911 pistol now.
    Good times.
     
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    Yeah, this is common-place. A lot of the times, I'll be taking fire and run around the corner or rock to avoid being hit and end up dying after I'm hidden behind the obstacle. I used to think, "...I got killed behind a rock", but I think it's a netcode/ping issue, where the guy shooting and killing me has lower ping or lower latency, so the game registers the kill since my internet connection isn't as clean as my opponent's. I've also had extensive and closed sessions with my clanmates when this happens...I know they aren't cheating and when I blurt out a , they normally say that they saw that I got killed before I ran around the corner or ducked behind a rock.

    The helicopters need to be nerfed, as well as chopper-mounted SOFLAMs (sometimes they kill me from across the map when ground-planted SOFLAMs don't reach out so far).

    I do think some of the guys deemed cheaters are actually just good at the game, especially running and gunning lonewolf-style (the guys that have scores like 33-4). These types of people should get less points since it is a team-oriented game.

    I've been taking breaks from BF3. I've MW3 but I hate it and won't play multiplay...I do the single player more than anything else. I've even been playing BC2 just to keep from having to go back to BF3 and getting owned by a side full of nothing but high level colonels. I haven't done BF3 hardcore yet, but I'm thinking that might be the ticket, since hardcore tends to weed out the running and gunning.
     
  49. ton247

    ton247 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahhh that makes sense. One game I decided to switch it up a bit, ditched the .44 Magnum for the 1911 and was completely blown away (no pun intended).

    It's standard-issue for all my setups now :)
     
  50. postman

    postman Notebook Guru

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    alright so tell me what fps I would be getting based upon these specs


    1280X720p
    no AA
    no AF
    cuda Auto (cpu/gpu)
    texture filtering allow and performance based
    no vsync
    no triple buffering


    i7 820qm
    gtx 280m
    6gb 1333 mhz
     
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