Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

Word. And looking at the big picture it's trash compared to BF2/BF2142/BF1942. Just so many things fundamentally wrong with the game not to mention DICE doesn't give a rat's a** about community feedback regarding things like mod support. I paid over $100 for Premium and feel completely ripped off. It was fun at first but once I got over the short-lived wow factor it lost its appeal very quickly. BF3 definitely doesn't have the staying power of the previous PC-exclusive Battlefield games.

 

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And his team were losing before the hax turns on

Edit: about pings, if you have a macro mouse make this

Press LMB
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set it to repeat or make this command line 15 times

Use AN-94, you'll fire at 1200rpm and win any engagements at close quarters regardless of ping.

 

At least it looks like BF4 is getting back to roots a bit with commander, in-squad VOIP, and gameplay mechanics that actually encourage teamwork.

@ Mobius 1: lol. It's that kind of crap that ticks me off. I hope EA actually does something about the hackers/cheaters instead of just server to server ban. They need to completely suspend their accounts.

 

That's all fine and dandy, but it's just DICE's way of saying "well, we listened to you," even though that's not completely true. They still remain adamant about mod support for one. I've seen all the BF4 E3 coverage and whatnot and what concerns me most is that nothing feels like a fundamentally significant change from BF3. The core BF3 experience looks to be unaltered for the most part, at least not radically.

 

True. I did see it more like BF3.5. It's their way to milk another $50-80 out of us. To be honest at this rate it'd almost be better to pay by the month than keep doling out $60-70 for the game, and another $50 for expansion pack. Just pay $100/year for all content and be done with it, or $10/mo. And just call it Battlefied: Your Wallet Forever

 

I'm voting with my wallet this time and they're not gonna get a penny out of me unless BF4 meets my expectations. Which means, at this rate, I'm probably gonna skip it altogether. IMO the franchise has really gone downhill starting from BF3. They should stop picking the wrong battles because trying to one-up CoD is just bad news for Battlefield fans.

 

I dont know what you guys saw at e3 but imho for PRE-ALPHA footage its looks amazing, sure it looks a bit like BF3, but then The last of Us on PS3 looks like Uncharted. why? because its from naughty dog the same developer.
They've added a ton of new features and refined everything. I will definitely be getting it

 

A ton of new features? Like what? Like what should have been in BF3, that was in BF2 like commander, in-game squad voip. Otherwise so far it looks like new map packs. And I agree that lack of mod support stifles it. You're stuck with EA's vision not what the fans can do. Most games with mod support have very long life cycles and keeps users wanting to upgrade to the next version. But this just leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

 

Well got in the alpha again, it runs nicely on my 485m using similar settings to bf4

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mod support would be nice of course. I agree stuff like voip should have been in BF3 but atleast its here now. they've added lots of little things, maybe not game changing but still. Stuff like customizable sidearms, new disable system, range finders on snipers, double scopes, flashbangs, better netcode, spectater mode a whole new faction CN with its set of unique vehicles etc... Im not saying all these features warrant a buy, but think of it, we are probably getting ~9 Maps so that would be like 2 BF3 DLC mappacks right? thats 40$ right there plus if you preorder thats a free DLC so 15 Maps. the other 20$ are warranted by all the changes imo. If you think of it as a mappack or a whole new game doesnt matter. they didnt revolutionize anything but the game still looks good and is worth your money. what other shooters are there that can compare in terms of gameplay and vehicles?

 

This

People love to bash it with all it does wrong, but I honestly don't feel there's a better shooter out there for the pure fun and excitement I get out of BF3... seems every game I play there's something crazy that happens that keeps me coming back. Really excited about 4, the teaser videos were awesome.

 

So DICE ran out of ideas and simply rehashed the gameplay elements from BF2, Chinese faction and everything. Not to mention the maps and gimmicks you mentioned could all be had for not a single penny if mods were allowed. Paying that much money for DLC which is not even as good as free user-created content in other games is not justifiable for me. Plus the modern military setting is so overdone at this point. They should get out of it and go back to WWII or to the future or something. Personally I'm having a lot more fun right now playing Rising Storm and even BF2, which still attracts a regular crowd of a few thousand per day. I have a blast if I can find a well-populated server running Project Reality.

 

How do you feel about the complete lack of teamwork? To me teamwork, communication, and coordination makes a multiplayer game more fun and gives it more lasting appeal than if they just give you a bunch of toys to fly and drive and once in a while you do something cool. Most of the time you're running around as a silent lone wolf looking for your next target or cap instead of being part of a concerted team effort consisting of multiple squads working in tandem directed by a commander with chain-of-command. To me BF3 honestly feels like CoD with vehicles a lot of the time. I own all the Battlefield games and have spent many hours on each of them and this is the first one which has given me that feeling.

As for other shooters that can compare to or exceed BF3, they were released a long time ago and they're called BF1942, BF2, and BF2142. Not a lot of people play them anymore except for the diehards like me but they are better games.

 

Oh gawd... flashbangs

 

there is in-squad VoIP and commander mode in BF4. yes, they could have done it with BF3 too. and yes, it took DICE two years, but they've added it to the game. i don't understand this BF4 bashing even before it's released only based on how BF3 was. like i said, i'll wait for the game to be released before i decide whether i'll spend money on it or not, but from the E3 and the Alpha videos, it seems to be a pretty solid game now.

 

Like i said mods would be awesome and we would get a ton of stuff for free, but let's not kid ourselves that's never gonna happen under EA. They aren't done milking is yet

 

The lack of Mod support for BF4 was devastating but its understandable

 

So two years later all they've managed to do is bring back features that were already in BF2 and BF2142? I can produce turds faster than they can innovate by the looks of it. They should really take their time and give it a few more years before finally releasing a really refreshing and original game. In the mean time, keep supporting BF3 and add in those features which should've been in the game from day one, free of charge. It's the least dedicated Battlefield fans deserve, especially when some of us have paid over $100 for Premium and everything. A two-year development cycle is what CoD has and look where that got them.

Not understandable. Their excuse was that Frostbite is too complicated for modders, which I don't believe for a second, and that they're too lazy to actually make an SDK for user content creators (they said so themselves). The CryEngine 3 and UE3 SDK's have been released free-of-charge and have helped generate so much amazing user-created content and games. Are they seriously arrogant enough to think the modding community isn't talented or dedicated enough to handle Frostbite?

 

Mod support is going to kill DLC, which for EA is unacceptable.

Plus, the gaysoles user like ps/xbox will whine for mod support also.

 

Plus wouldn't it also make it easier for hackers to create aimbots and such if they had access to the code? Not sure how all that works, but food for thought.

 

You don't need access to the code to create all manners of hacks. It wouldn't make a difference either way. Even without mod support BF3 is managing to catch up to CoD in the number of hackers I see running around unpunished, at least in my experience. Counter-Strike has had mod tools for over a decade but the hacking problem is not as bad as BF and CoD. I think this speaks more for the demographics of the people who play these games than anything else.

 

Curious, anyone else having issues joining a server or problems online in general, ie stats, server ping, etc? Everything worked great yesterday, and have tried to load up a game today without success... trying to determine if a problem on my end or on EA servers? Haven't run into this issue previously. Thanks

EDIT: Disregard... after some troubleshooting it appears CCleaner destroyed the battlelog plugin, have reinstalled and back to normal.

 

I just wanne throw this snapshot out there. This is Metro bf3 gameplay with Falco152 and Torment_78 (NBR-bro's).
We were having some fun in the locker rooms, keeping the enemy back from taking over B, when suddenly the enemy blew up the wall infront of us, and Falco got stuck under the rubble. We laughed our asses off over mumble.
Hope seeing some of you guys in bf4 .

 

Wow, I haven't posted here in a few months. Think a couple games with Falco were the only chance I got to play BF3 with any NBR members, too

Oh, Metro, how despised you are. Alas, we can only hope your Frostbite 3 reincarnation is not filled with as much suck

As odd as this may seem, just wanted to thank you gents for all the good discussion on here. I'll be using Mordor HQ for anything Battlefield related in the future, though. Nothing beats a community of guys who just want old school BF back and can actually influence DICE more than I ever could alone :thumbsup:

 

Totally agree man. But I'm afraid the old Battlefield as we knew it is dead and gone. DICE will never listen because priorities have shifted.

 

Pretty much this

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In metro, US base leftside (facing A from spawn), try to look for a pillar which has a fire slightly beneath it. Go prone and position yourself facing the brick until slightly covered by it. Your crosshair should be aimed towards the edge, the upper and bottom crosshair indicator should be slightly to the right of it. Deploy bipod and you should be able to cover the entire left tunnel with suppressive fire and expose very little of yourself (head)

I would take a PKP with extended+3.4x, suppression perk and aim for scope glint / spotted enemies.

I pulled a 19 killstreak yesterday xD

 

As much of a pessimist as I am and despite my utter hatred toward DIC/EA, BF is one of the few big-name titles that I will defend and help get it back on course. BF2 pretty much got me into modern gaming so that's part of the reason why I'm sticking with the Mordor guys. I mean, I joined Reddit recently and I've seen the oddball comments about 'classic' Battlefield here and there, but these guys are big enough to have at least some impact (and the DICE guys sure as hell know they exist). I mean, just the other day this Twitch website had footage a few days in a row (some Gamescom thing, I think) and the 'shoutcaster' was taking question suggestions from Reddit.

*sigh* Mordor guy posts question about a 'classic' mode for us veterans, host guy sees it and tries to ask it to Patrick Bach, completely f's it up, and Bach sidesteps it by talking about Hardcore mode. I wanted to cry -__-

But hey! That's an assload more than I ever could have done by myself.

 

Still more of an optimist than me. I've already kind of given up on it and moved on to other games. As much as I have a history with Battlefield and played the crap out of it, there's too many good games made by companies that actually respond to community feedback for me to get worked up over one franchise.

 

Indeed, which is why I can understand people calling me crazy for it, lol.

Until something comes along that can hold my interest as long as BF did in terms of multiplayer I really have no other games to look to. That and I've pretty much given up on multiplayer-only games so I can start hacking away at games with great story modes (finished the Mass Effect series early this year and the Half-Life series most recently, for example).

 

Does SLI work in this game? Experienced a lot of tearing with 780m sli (320.49 driver).

 

Crossfiring multiple AMD GPUs led to crashes for me. I had to disable crossfire whenever I played BF3. However, sli might be affected differently.

 

So what's the difference between the BF4 Standard, Digital Deluxe, and Premium versions? I'm having a hard time understanding why Digital Deluxe is $20 more than Premium.

 

Because premium doesn't include the game itself. Typically EA, they need to put up a premium edition (BF4 + premium) for pre-order.

Edit: so digital deluxe includes only one dlc pack and a few other perks like shortcuts that the standard version doesn't include, some of which are not included in premium.

So at this point, if you don't want to miss anything, you'll be paying €120 in my country. That doesn't include all extra shortcuts and dogtags. EA milking money as usual.

 

Ah, the way I was reading it last night was that Premium included the game and expansion packs. So even if you get the digital deluxe you still have to get Premium to get all the expansions (without buying that individually). That's like $120US WTH?

I wonder if there will be any discounts before the launch. I hate to part with that much money, but my birthday is coming up, so it may be my birthday gift to myself.

 

You could get 20 better games during the Steam Holiday Sale. Why waste it on a turd pooped out by EA?

 

Because despite all its flaws and issues, it's my digital addiction. Plus there's a couple friends that I play online with and they're planning on getting it too.

 

Still cheaper than CoD .

 

Actually with all the paid DLC they're about the same now.

 

This... because while it's definitely not perfect, once you get past the nitpicking it to death approach, it's pretty dang fun without an equal I've found. Nothing else has kepy my attention as long, from close combat deathmatch to full blown war with tons of players and vehicles depending on my mood, I haven't found a single game I've enjoyed more. A great example goes back to the movie "Shooter" for me, where they were talking about killing the enemy sniper; he never came out and exposed himself so they brought the entire building down around him... Not many games allow tactics like that, and few matches play out identically.

And yes, even after getting it at release and playing on and off still to this day, I still suck overall ha

Very excited about BF4. Of course this is only my opinion and others' mileage will vary

 

I'm with you guys, but I hate myself for it. Playing BF3 really helped ramp up my hatred of EA, but then I played the Mass Effect series shortly after (not knowing it was them, initially) and heard about their latest Sims debacle. I was completely done with them until I saw the Humble Bundle. Turns out that the games are mediocre at best and my one dollar didn't even go to EA nor the $10 million they've raised, thus far.

But Battlefield... Hell, look at my previous comments. I can't even say "I'm not posting about BF here again" without posting about BF here again. I have nothing to replace it! While I sure as hell won't be pre-ordering it, I might wait until Greenman Gaming has it and Premium for <$80 (I learned my lesson from BF3) if the Beta and launch go smoothly. Still looks more similar to BF3 than BF2, though -__-

 

If any of you are interested in buying bf4 halfprice, a buddy of mine recommended this site: Buy Battlefield 4 CD KEY Compare Prices
If you don't trust it, don't do it. But I went ahead and ordered me one there ^^.

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Will still be playing Battlefield 3 for a while, just started, after the Humble Bundle special, damn it addictive. Not going to spend on premium though, gaming here in the back end of the world is expensive already I really love this game, but I REALLY hate EA

 

I think the sentiments are across the board. BF3 is addictive and fun. EA sucks balls.

 

Have fun and this should not get you banned by EA I believe.[/QUOTE]

@wild05kid05

It looked like Battlefield 4 beta's /CORE/ directory was hard coded this time what say you ?

 

Intradesting... but looks shaddy. Do they sell a keycode to one person or more than one person?

 

@wild05kid05

It looked like Battlefield 4 beta's /CORE/ directory was hard coded this time what say you ?[/QUOTE]

1. Upload/convert bf3.par here: Origin Requirement Remover - by NoFaTe
2. Backup your bf3.par, rename to bf3original.par or smth
3. Move out of bf3 folder to another folder
4. Put modified .par that you downloaded from nofate in your BF3 folder

 

What the heck are you guys referring to?

 

Anyone with a similar rig to mine able to confirm whether the patches for the beta improved performance or not?

I was on holiday for the last week or so so wasn't able to try myself. Always floating at around 35-45 FPS on mostly Ultra settings at 1080 with no AA. Could only hit 60FPS if I really turned down the res. FPS was pretty inconsistent too but I heard that was due to using last year's CPU model along with Windows 7, both of which I have.

 

Patches were hit or miss. Problem is some graphics features were implemented and others weren't so it was really hard to gauge how your PC would perform with certain graphics settings. I was able to run at "high" resolution on my 765m at 40-60 FPS, but I don't even know if most of the graphics options were even adjustable.

 

Yeah, I thought that they said something similar. Also, there was very little noticeable visual difference when turning stuff up and down. Heck, as a whole I found it looked exactly the same as BF3.

Surely that means that performance can only get worse though if features were disabled... They couldn't be forcing everyone to play on higher than normal settings, surely?