Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

A BF2 plane could last an entire round, easilly, if you were good at flying and knew the evasive tricks that make missiles miss every time. Best map is probably Oman for that purpose... I agree on the height ceiling... it should be RAISED, not removed, though... not having a height ceiling gives way for ridiculous things like people flying 4000m in the sky and effectively griefing their team if they stay in the jet. The 800m ceiling in BF2 was definitely too low though, some dogfights ended in one person accidentally going too high.

 

In BF1942 as far as I know there was no practical height ceiling; I remember flying dice bombers up absurdly high (well beyond the viewdistance of anyone on the ground) and then freefalling down to the ground for 15 seconds, bombing, then repeating. Nothing, not even BF2, comes close to the scale that BF1942 had (except maybe titan battles in 2142). The fact that you could both drive a battleship and engage in a firefight on the ground on the SAME MAP is something that has not to my knowledge happened in any multiplayer game since BF1942. Hopefully BF3 will recreate some of this.

 

I barely remember the planes in BF2... like everyone else I remember some fool camping at the spawn, taking it asap and proceeding to crash into the nearest mountain, if they got it off the ground. I never got to fly them so no idea how it'd be in BF3...

But for the choppers, I'm told that I'm a good pilot in BC2, both for the apache and blackhack. I run into problems when my team lets a guy sit on the VADS and wreck our air, or when an opposing apache is dogfighting me it's 50/50. Do the flares remove the tracer darts like on tanks, or do they just tell the current missiles to bugger off? AT-4's aren't usually a problem unless there are 6 guys firing at you (actually happened), I get killed by l50 tank shells more than at4s

 

They remove the tracer as well (just like in real life? maybe not...). The AT4s are actually very hard to hit helicopters with without a few hours of practice that 95% of people do not do. I personally have more luck sniping the pilot out of a strafing heli than I do hitting it with the AT4; the biggest issue with aiming the AT4s is the complete lack of depth perception, which makes it very hard to tell if the missile is 40 feet in front of the heli or 40 feet behind it.

 

BTW add me as a friend on Origin. My ID is 3demons.

 

Added you.

 

There is no such thing in real life. It's simply a magical gizmo in BFBC2 to completely nullify helicopters.

 

Actually, a lot of dogfights ended that way.

 

Graphics look slightly under Crysis 1.

Come on DICE.

 

It's hard to take anything you say seriously, ever.

 

Cause I be trollin'.

Young folk never believe me, I warn them...until its too late :Wise look:

Trolling aside, the graphics are good, but they could do SO much better. It looks like Crysis 1 with a lot more bloom.

Personally, BF3 will not live up the hype. I know it and I can smell it. This is a Duke Nukem scenario.

Frostbite isn't TOO impressive. If you want destruction, get Red Faction Guerilla. Geomod 2.0 is spot on.

No steam, no mod support, graphics not pushed to the next generation and Battle-Log.

Where did they screw up?
At the start. But it's good they're giving the PC players some support.

 

This is far from a Duke Nukem scenario. If you want eye candy, go play Crysis. If you want to play simply for the destruction, then play Red Faction Guerrilla. Battlefield is not about that stuff. Destruction adds to the environment and is a welcome addition, but it's not like we care to blow up every last molecule in the virtual world. Well ok, maybe we do. But I refuse to judge anything until the game is released.

BF2 was spectacular in its own right and even still play it to this day and has very dated graphics, no destructive environments, limited weaponry.

 

My only gripe about BF2 was the lack of more expansion packs. "Booster Packs" were nothing compared 1942's expansion packs. DICE could have done so much more with BF2. Still a great game though.

 

I beg to differ, BattleField3's main point is its Frostbite2.0 engine. BF2 was the Crysis of its time. It was wonderful. But BF3 seems like it is driven by the same hype CoD is driven by.

I can't wait for Jet dogfights and I hope they still have parachutes.
If Battlefield3 is not about that stuff, then doesn't it make BF3 a CoD shooter with a different name and more realism?

DICE you are playing very dirty tricks.

 

BF2 was hardly Crysis of its time and it didn't strive for that at all. I think you're missing the point of Battlefield games. It's not as much about graphics fidelity as it is about the gameplay itself, which is the way it should be. Gameplay first, graphics and gimmicks second. Graphics does help with the immersiveness, I'll give them that as does the destructible environment. But would I enjoy the game more if it had ten billion polygons for a tree as opposed to a dozen? No.

 

Dear god, I hope they fixed parachutes from BF2 to BF3... those glitchy parachutes in BF2 have gotten me killed many a times

 

LOL 9...9...9..9..9..9.9.9.999 SPLAT! Damn!

 

Ten billion polygons...k um no. Me and my friends really liked the graphics of BF2 back in the days, you have to come from playing a PS1 game to BF2 to see the greatness. Gameplay is important, but the thing is, what are they going to change from BF2...nothing. So technically, it's like buying CoD. Except we're blinded. Personally, destructive enviroments are a HUGE A+++++ for me in games since they increase the realism and the gameplay as well. That will be the only thing that will separate the gameplay from BF2 to BF3. I think in BF3 the game should be more like Operation Flashpoint. Battlefield is all about the realism HT, it's why people prefer BF to CoD.

And for gods sake, I hope they make Aircraft carriers drive-able (They probably won't). I loved it in BF1942. Oh teh lulz.

 

Horrible memories have came back to haunt me from your post

The Parachute was fake, but it was okay. I once landed on an Enemy jet. I went flying like a ragdoll.

 

Yes I know there are no tracers in real life; that was exactly my point.


I honestly don't care about the graphics of BF3. I play BF games for the GAMEPLAY. If there was still a decent player base in BF1942 and I could get it working at 1080P in windows 7 (which is sort of difficult because it is an old game) I would be content to just play that. Neat graphics are interesting for a few hours, but it is the gameplay that makes you keep playing the game. I honestly would prefer lower quality graphics to make the game more accessible (i.e. so 64 player servers aren't a laggy mess). The core gameplay components are most important.

Look at TF2; it hardly has advanced graphics, but thousands of people still play it; if anything its player base is increasing. People don't play it for the graphics, then play it for the gameplay. Crysis 1 multiplayer looked good but wasn't all that well thought out. The singleplayer looked nice but was essentially a tech demo; the story was nothing special, but the sandbox type gameplay was pretty neat.

Hopefully DICE didn't waste all of their development money on the graphics and forget about gameplay. Also, if BF3 has anywhere near as many bugs as BC2 did on release day I shall be rather unhappy...

 

Don't worry, the gameplay is going to be a BC2 or BF2 rehash.

 

I would prefer the latter over the former...

Also I think it is important to remember BF2142. In all of these discussions it is always "back in BF2..." and everyone forgets about 2142. Although it ran on the same engine, Titan mode was quite a development and was one of the most fun multiplayer game modes that I have ever played in any online MP game; the way it blended large scale BF style vehicle warfare with intense close quarters combat on the same map was quite revolutionary.

 

I think it's going to be a hybrid of both.

 

I dunno. Titan mode kinda sucked. It was just a nade-fest. Go inside the ship and everyone's kill count went up tenfold.

 

If they could have gotten rid of the glitchiness that happened as a result of the moving titans then I would have been all for it. It was a pretty cool thing to be able to position your titan over an enemy base and just own it with the titan's guns.

 

I think dice has already said the height limit will be 1000m, basically the same as BF2.

for your viewing enjoyment.. Bad Company 2 INFINITY AT4 - YouTube

 

What is this devilry?!

 

Yeah, there are some guys who are absurdly good at this. They make me mad. Thankfully, they are not very common.

 

That looks quite fake. No way anyone can consistently knock choppers from that distance. You can't see the rocket or chopper even.

 

I do it all the time. It is easy when you get the movement of the at4 down. That video is what helped me get good with the at4.

 

I'm better at tagging choppers. Most of them fly predictable paths and just anticipate and blam. I have gotten to the point of not tagging them because I can get my RPG there in their path. Of course with AT4 you can control it but I've never been successful with it.

 

lol i remember when bc2 was first released the tracer literally moved 25% faster than the cg so i just carl gustafed black hawks, the tracer had no point. also the tracer in bc1 had bullet drop, then they removed it...

and about using the joystick in the helo, its much better for aiming if you switch the controls so that the right joystick is used for aiming and the left joystick for strafing and elevation. the advantage to turning left and right with the joystick over the a and d keys is that its still accurate like a mouse, but you dont have to shuffle the mouse to turn the helo around, which can be extremely frustrating in the black hawk.

 

Right and left joystick? What you talking about willis? Are you using a gamepad? I'm talking about one of these:



But even one of these will suffice:

 

YAY! This means BF3, as I expected, will be AMD optimized!

 

NICE!!! im going with AMD then

 

*AMD brofist*!

3 days moar... CAN'T WAIT!

 

My 6750m vs your 5730m... bring it!

 

If I OC, it'll have the same performance!

Mine is around a 6650M, so if I OC a lot, I'll have your performance

EDIT : Just checked NBC, mine is around 18% worse in FPS on ultra settings than yours. I guess it'll be almost the same in BF3

 

Except I'm running 780/880 from a stock 600/800. Woot! Some people are getting like 850/1000 though. Lucky batards.

 

BF2142 was forgotten because it was a *mod* of BF2. It was good though, but it didn't bring much to the table apart from the cool theme and the massacre Titan mode.

 

In that case every single Call of Duty game since COD4 has been a COD4 "mod." However, in BF2142 DICE at least had the decency to significantly change the game by adding a new gamemode; unlocks were also more prominently featured in the game. Of course, they also added BATTLEMECHS (or walkers, or whatever you want to call them). Each successive COD game has only added weapons and game modes that only differ slightly from the original.

 

Origin

Origins is getting ready for BF3! they added this free games section to their site and application where you can demo stuff!

 

Does this mean that there will be two version of drivers available? One special for BF3 and another one the official 11.9 Catalyst ? Or the first are released in the same package with the second?

 

Thanks for the heads Up

Currently updating

 

Err this sounds stupid, but where/what is my origin ID? Specifically, which one is it? The one that says "Battlefield" under it?

Since they've upgraded from the old ea system to origin I never had to make an origin account... and I don't see anywhere obvious to set an account name or anything.

 

It's your EA account. lol

Download Origin here: http://www.origin.com/language

 

Everyone knows that. CoD hasn't been good since CoD: WaW.

Same reason why BF2142 didn't have a excellent run but it still ran well. Like CoD: WaW

 

I wouldn't compate 2142 to WAW. Whil WAW pretty much disappeared a few months after launch BF2142 lasted a few years with a solid player base.

 

Same here, I've gotten pretty good at it too. Always use extra explosive perk to counter the extra armor or guys repairing. I've also had some crazy shots with it like shooting and then and giving up / unzooming and switching back to main weapon because i thought i was too off target, then getting the kill anyway. -lolwut.

 

Yeah, what I meant was that when I log in to origin there are several names. There's the EA master account, which doesn't really sound like something to be giving out, and there's the name I used in BC2 (it is titled Battlefield, maybe it auto-uses this name in bf3?).