Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

I can play tonight, but right now I think most people in the US are at work or in class.

 

I may swing by that server later in the day, but uncharted 3 is also calling out to me.

 

I'm joining, since not many are on now I'll be in and out untill I see people playing, then I'll get down

 

Just noticed something. Cant the party voice chat in Battlelog be used in game? Why not just use that instead of mumble/teamspeak/etc. when you want to talk to people in game?

 

Because you have to create a party before you start the game. Mumble works great imho.

 

lol... and since I've got good graphics and all those leaves keep me from seeing anything... I pretty much just keep randomly mashing on my "q" until it spots. Targeting just below the red dot is so much easier than actually seeing them.

btw; The stingers work pretty damn well and those fast movers seem to ignore infantry....

 

We have an NBR server?

Also the manual for this game in origin only has the first page? What give, is there a place where I can view the manual for this game?

 

god damn, I hate LAVs

also, rep ValkerieFire for the server

 

Hakira's LAV was all upgraded with thermal optics, lol. Nowhere to hide!

 

I definitely have to say that the default jets without heatseekers are literally the most useless piece of equipment in the game. Sit behind someone for 3 minutes plinking away and can't even score a kill.

 

My feeling exactly

 

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nice catch!

 

And that actually looks like a decent movie.

 

It pretty much looks like CoD:The Movie.

 

I find that if the enemy you are dogfighting has flares, the rotary cannon on the plane is better at destroying them. However unless it is an A10 or SU25 it is pretty useless against ground vehicles without laser guided bombs or the unguided rockets.

 

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Is it normal Anyone?

 

I am not completely sure but I have probably experienced something like this; it sounds like a typical sort of issue that a game would have especially this soon after launch. I am also playing at all low settings, so textures sometimes do weird things. What settings are you playing at?

 

This is only true if you are not a very good pilot. If you have spent enough time flying in BF3 (or BF2 for that matter) you will find that most of the good pilots only use the main cannons for air to air combat. A pilot can take out another jet in 1 quick burst of the main cannons if they are good enough (and trust me, there are a lot of good pilots around already in BF3).

I used to fly a lot in BF2 ( marine0089 First Sergeant Stats, BF2S.com -51:13:58 hours..) and basically only used the main cannons for air to air. Makes for a sneaky kill as other pilots have no idea you have them in your sights. Also is more of a challenge.

The thing I don't like about jets in BF3 is how low they have to fly. I'm used to hitting the clouds and 'dive bombing'.... none of this 300m/900m limit . For that reason I refuse to fly in BF3.

 

Jeeze, yeah it does... I reached that conclusion at the whole UAV thing

Damn, if they want to make a CoD movie the guys who made that epic fan made trailer should do it.

 

Oh whatever guy. You're super awesome. The cannons do next to no damage.

 

I'm thinking about busting out my old Ace Combat 6 Xbox 360 flightstick set and hooking up to the pc for some flying action. Has anyone done this yet?

 

Man, I love the Ace Combat Series. Loved it for PS2. Best flight game out there back in the day.

 

I have the older version, the Saitek X36, and I've thought about it. I think someone said that you can't use the joystick to fly JUST the aircraft, though, it will use the joystick for all the vehicles.

I've gotten better at flying with the KB, but it's really hard to keep someone lined up for long enough to score a kill with the cannon. I think I've done more damage by ramming enemies.

 

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What is the differance between HBAO and SBAO?

I ask because these are the settings I run, and was thinking about tweaking them and seeing what happens. At these settings the game runs really smooth.

Spoiler

 

HBAO stands for Image-Space Horizon-Based Ambient Occlusion
SSAO stands for Screen-Space Ambient Occlusion

HBAO is an improved method of AO compared to SSAO. AO is a "trick" that will accentuate the perception of depth for the objects rendered in a scene by applying a shadow effect in key areas on the object itself and on the immediate surrounding area. It looks at the geometry and also at the way bump-mapping is applied to flat textured surfaces.

As a side note, bump-mapping is also used by the tessellation process in a similar manner. In a way, Ambient Occlusion is the poor man's Tessellation since it doesn't require a DX11 card and the performance cost is very small by comparison. Not my quote lol

 

Ahh, thanks for the info. I'll leave it at HBAO then. Seems the better option if the cards can handle it, and it seems that my system can. I will have to play with the settings to see if I can make things look better, though I'm pretty close to having it maxed out as it is.

 

Turn off AA deferred as you have both MLAA and FXAA on which means a big hit on FPS.

Just keep the AA post processing(FXAA) high as that alone would do. A combination of both MLAA and FXAA makes more sense unless you have something like a SLI 580 rig.

 

i'm currently gaming @ 1080p on high. the recommended settings for me were higher than the 'high' setting, but i thought i'd save some FPS.

is it weird that my GPU and CPU's only hits 68*c?

 

Edit nvm , for US only.

 

lol, completely untrue. the times that i do kill in bf3 in a jet on air to air is simply the main cannon.

your aim probably sucks

 

All four kills? Really tearing it up.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, but it's a common complaint that the starter jets are underpowered compared to everything else. It's not like I'm the only person who feels that way.

 

Getting back to the actual game now that I can actually play it with out problems (Thanks) The SOFLAM is a POS. I have multiple issues with this device. In theory it sounds awesome and has LIMITLESS potential and usages. But everything is working against it atm and I'm sorry but I find the device to be a complete waste of time. Where do I start? Well number 1 it doesn't kill targets, granted if a Javelin fires I can agree it shouldn't kill. But if I paint a target and a F18 Hornet flys in (Within that limited Window) High Level of coordination here folks, it doesn't kill the vehicle just merely disables it. (AA not a tank gets disabled) I think it should be a one hit kill I mean you manually guided a missile straight into it Gah!!???? So finally we get a kill on one shot, targeted a VIPER which is fragile and frail so yea, I'm rooting saying haha we got something EXCEPT?!?!?!? The Spotter the Recon Sniper gets ZERO points for designated the target. My friend flying the F18 openly said he has no ability of targeting that Chopper without field support unless he slows down to target it and lock on, but because I did that for him he just flies through fires off and goes home to reload.

Except i get ZERO points? I mean Really? Not even a Spot? No Kill Assist? Nothing? Just watch my friend get the kill while I do alot of the leg work? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? What is wrong with you EA? Do you not want ANYONE to use this thing? ZERO REWARD.... I'm not carrying the SOFLAM again Not going to WASTE my time with that POS, I'd rather go engineer and equip a Javelin or Stinger.... Wasted my time lighting up targets for a few mins getting ZERO points....


I was wishing for something like this and ended up getting something that is far from:

 

Getting super performance on my rig, mind you it's a desktop lol not tried on my laptop and I don't think i will, it's a 5650 so will run like turd.

Turning off MSAA gives me over 100 fps constant, with it on i get over 60 - 100fps constant, love it.

 

I guess the AA missiles are better than the cannons up to a certain skill level with the cannons. At some point, the AA missiles don't really get any better, but the cannons can continue to scale with skill up really far.

I personally have given up on the AA missiles. I use the cannons exclusively for AA combat and find them much more effective killers than the missiles. That frees up rocket pods or the guided anti-tank missile for the other slot. I'm still experimenting between these two, but I'm leaning towards the laser targeted anti-tank missile.

My rationale for ditching the AA missiles:

In the best case, you'll take a certain amount of time to lock on, the other pilot will be on alert, but you'll still fire both missiles, and they'll both hit. just the amount of time this takes is already longer than a cannon kill

Realistically, the other pilot should be able to prevent at least one missile from impacting just with standard flare usage. If they have stealth or chaff, and can perform basic evasive maneuvers, they may be able to do much better than that.

With the standard cannon, the kills are quick, totally under your control. The other pilot also doesn't get the "free alert" that you are engaging him. The common result is that they won't start evading until it's too late. If you get really good, you can learn how much to lead to engage and get kills consistently at medium range

 

remember, those dont count all the disabled vehicles and the bails. ...but i do see your point.

 

Soflam AA gun does nothing, EVER WORST then Javelin because when he gets out to repair his AA, guess what? Yea you can't target an unmanned vehicle. What a load of crap.... Not to mention you still don't get any points at all for Soflam Targeting an AA.

 

Can someone help me binding keys? I don't know why but I trying to change key bindings for mouse buttons but doesn't seem to work. Also when I flying a heli or a jet, can't seem to change weapons or deploy flares. Key bindings are set though.

 

Trying to get this game to work has been a complete hassle and I am tired of it. I've spent several evenings trying to get connected to servers, and even uninstalled reinstalled. I think I am done for the year and will come back in 2012 and see if EA/DICE has fixed this game and their Origin/BattleLog service. I'm definitely not going to be recommending this game to friends and will actively work to steer them away from EA and Origin.MW3 launches next week; it is a Steamworks title and has a pretty good chance of working.

 

My laptop with a 5650 can run it fairly well at 720P on all low settings, it just looks like utter crap.

Also, those screenshots are nice, but they really do show how obnoxious the lens flare is. If I wanted to play an FPS with crap all over my screen I WOULD PUT CRAP ALL OVER MY SCREEN!!!! The fact that I DON'T do this means that it is not a feature I want.

 

I never really understood lens flare in games, our own eyes don't suffer from it (either that or our brain filters it out), so it looks a little odd in games. What I find even more odd is that it has bokeh from a suposed camera lens, as if to imply you're watching a recording of a guy going into battle.

There might be an ini file where you can disable the lens flare though.

 

I'll sort you out regarding the cannons.

So there are two types aircraft.

A-10 / SU-25 Frogfoot = Super powerful gatling gun (Means really good for CAS)

F/A-18 Super Hornet / SU-35 Flanker = Less powerful main cannon, mostly used in AtA combat (works vs tanks etc as well, but is meh).

Problem is, A-10/SU-25 only shows up on Rush maps, I've yet to see them on a conquest map.

Now it's worth noting, ALL cannons are great in air to air combat, one full burst is more than enough to destroy a jet (assuming you hit > 90% of the bullets before it's "recharging/reloading". The mindset you should have when attacking other jets is to go for the disable. Going for a disable requires not so many bullets and once it is disabled, he can either try and keep flying (remember, he won't be able to out maneuver you since he's lost a significant portion of his mobility), bail out at once or use an extinguisher.

Air Radar is at the moment listed as a permanent upgrade for jets, this is bugged and will be fixed. So on conquest maps, I prefer to run:
- Stealth (Gives you a bigger margin of error on strafing runs and makes your harder to spot + spot duration lowered).
- Extinguisher (will explain more below).
- FFAR Rocket Pods or Guided Missile (So I can actually do do some CAS to the infantry).

Reason is because in AtA combat, who gets disabled first loses. Stealth helps to keep you out of harms way from engineers with their pesky stingers. Flares won't really help you once you are disabled, which means you're combat ineffective. Extinguishers will give you a second chance at a fight, and remember you can always dodge the heat seekers/stingers with some hard brake banked turns (and some luck).

Here are some general quick tips in Dogfighting:

- Remember where the sun is. You can use it's powerful glare to make chasing you more annoying.

- Always brake when turning, never use afterburners while turning. Afterburners will make the turn slower and more stretched out.

- Don't rely on Heat Seekers, practice on using the main cannon. It's more "stealthier" and you might even catch some pilots off guard if you're only using the main cannon and you're nicely set up behind them.

- When chasing, always use third person view (if enabled), switch to first person when shooting, switch back to third when he's trying to shake you off. Your goal is to stay on his tail for as long as possible, until he thinks he's lost you.

Hope this helps somewhat to people interested in flying jets.

I'm using this when playing on regular standard SC Conquest/Rush maps with Third person view on and Vehicle regeneration on.

If I'm playing on a server without vehicle regeneration, I'll go flares.

 

Lens "flare" comes from reflections between elements in a multi lens system. That is why you see multiple more or less concentric (but usually skewed because the light is hitting at an angle) rings; these are caused by internal reflection that happens in even the best of lenses. The human eye, on the other hand, only has one lens, so there are no reflections between multiple elements and therefore NO lens flare; i.e. you don't see any images of other lenses because there are none.

Also Philiphan in real life only the A10 has a "gatling gun" (a 30 mm GAU8), while the SU25 actually has a dual barrel "gast gun" that operates on a very different concept and has a moderately slower fire rate (the recoil from one barrel actually serves to reload the other, which is pretty neat). In the game however they seem to have just given them the same animation...

 

Yet no bombs? WTH?

 

I've just asked EA for a full refund...

Getting massive FPS drops down to 5-6 fps per second for up to 2 seconds, 3 or 4 times a minute regardless of Graphics settings, and the game crashes to desktop every 5 to 10 minutes.

If they don't provide the refund, i'll be complaining to the industry ombudsman that they sold me goods that didn't work as they had advertised, and that they failed to provide a refund, and therefore are failing to comply with Australian law.

Im sick and tired of developers out to make a quick buck and not put the proper effort in to making games work properly and reliably

 

Lots of info in this thread. With all battlefield products I think I'll wait 6months before buying it to get all the bugs Ironed out....

 

Might give this a shot.
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It solved my problems with random fps drops from fluid 60 to 1 or 2 fps in Bad Company 2.
Might work for BF3 also.

 

Hi guys forgive me for not trauling through the vast amounts of pages on this topic, and at the risk of repeating a question here goes.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SOUND CUTTING OUT ON THEIR HEADSET ?

If so has anyone know why or found a fix that can stop it.

Many thanks in advance.

Josh

P.S I have a creative sound blaster arena headset, drivers are up to date anad it is a USB device.