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    Black Ops Multiplayer Thoughts

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by maksin01, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. KamiliaKoala

    KamiliaKoala Notebook Consultant

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    Kinda disappointed in Black Ops with the short campaign and the same
    multiplayer gameplay similar to Modern Warfare 2 but i was still tempted to buy cause of my friends =X
     
  2. firstwardo

    firstwardo Notebook Consultant

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    Console is P2P. PC is dedicated servers.
     
  3. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Where can I find the files mentioned in the first post? I can't even touch the game until I fix those values or else I'm positive my laptop will overheat.
     
  4. Ruckus

    Ruckus Notebook Deity

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    Not likely. It's the game itself that is broken. Treyarch just shafted PC gamers like Ubisoft does. Difference is Treyarch may fix it.
     
  5. maksin01

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    The file "config_mp.cfg" is located in the folder here:
    C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\call of duty black ops\players,
    just open it with notepad and search (ctrl + F) for "multi" and you'll see it easily. :)
     
  6. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ugh, I was worried about that. I don't seem to have the "players" folder for some reason...
     
  7. miahsoul

    miahsoul Notebook Deity

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    Multiplayer is wayyy different IMO. It feels more like BFBC2, which is a bad thing imo. Plus there are so many lucky kills and less reaction is involved. It's more about tactics too and last stand is way more prevalent. I wish it was more like MW2. :(

    IMO, I don't get why everyone hates on MW2. It was probably one of the best FPSes ever. Tubing and G18s were the community, not the game. Plus, I've seen a lot of tubing in BOPs too. I guess somethings never change.
     
  8. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    hmm I think you probably need to start the game (MP) and change the settings in-game for at least once for that "players" folder to be created.
     
  9. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, I figured that out. I'm going to start the game in a bit.
     
  10. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Multiplayer in Black Ops feels like BFBC2???? Uh, no. Not even close.

    BOPS
    1. Small maps
    2. Running in circles shooting people
    3. Dedicated servers (same as bfbc2)
    4. Large weapon count
    5. Perk System (items purchased with COD points)
    6. LAG

    Bfbc2 -
    1. Large maps
    2. Destructive environment
    3. Slower Pace gameplay
    4. Dedicated servers
    5. Smaller weapon count
    6. vehicles
    7. Weapons and perks available by leveling

    The only similarity about the two games (besides dedicated servers) are the games are both online and as usual you have the hack kings trying to figure out how to get the max level and gear with minimal work. BOPS is fun, don't get me wrong but it's not even close to bfbc2. Not the same ball park, not the same sport, not the same quality.

    StevenX
     
  11. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    lol BOPS. I've never heard it called that before.

    Also, you forgot to include "in my opinion" at the end of that.
     
  12. KipCoo

    KipCoo Notebook Evangelist

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    BOPS feels and looks more like COD WAW. Even the Russian dude's voice in the beginning of the SP game is the same voice from WAW, lol. I've just been playing the single player, and it's not that great. I actually liked COD WAW single player and MP a lot more than this game. Not to mention the graphics and game runs a lot smoother in cod WAW. But in BOPS defense, perhaps more patches need to come out for it as it is relatively new.

    Don't get me wrong, the SP does have it's moments and gets better as the game goes along. You'll see a lot of slow motion effects, and different characters that set the game apart. It's worth a pick up, but not for $60. Maybe for $20-30.
     
  13. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Consequently, I got it for $31. (local deal) :)

    This is actually my first CoD. Before this, I couldn't get them because I only had my 360, and I've never been able to use dual analog well.
     
  14. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    it's Gary Oldman (commissioner gordan and Sirius black) and its the same voice bc it's the same character from WaW, Reznov.
     
  15. shinakuma9

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    well caved in and bought it. Fun MP so far even though im lvl 4. I just want the performance optimization patch to come out already.
     
  16. miahsoul

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    I said it "feels more" like BFBC2, because of the movement towards a game with slightly slower gameplay and larger (IMO) maps. It's still not BFBC2, as you stated, but compared to MW2, it's a bit more similar to BFBC2. Plus, the gun models are getting a little bit BFBC2ish in some areas, which I don't like, cause all the guns in BFBC2 seems like huge toys... But overall I like the gun detail quality alot better compared to just a bunch of basic shapes thrown together like in BFBC2. I'm not getting at that BOPS is anything remotely close, I'm just saying it's just has vaguely some similar points, making it slightly closer to BFBC2 than to the COD we know and love, but still is the basic formula of COD. The crappy visual I've provided below is an attempt to show that BOPS' is making COD more like BFBC2, but it's still, COD in essence.
    MW2-----BOPS------------BFBC2
     
  17. Ruckus

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    Treyarch - WAW
    Treyarch - BOPs

    Two feel and look similar? Coincidence? I'm just joshing.
     
  18. streather

    streather Notebook Evangelist

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    the kindest thing i can say about the multiplayer experience on black ops is "it's not finished"


    hopefully they'll sort some of the problems with a bigger patch soon, that 8mb patch only seemed to fix some limit on the amount of memory the game can use when open.
     
  19. Element

    Element Notebook Evangelist

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    Of course they feel similar, they were both made by Treyarch.

    Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor also feel(somewhat) and look similar.

    :p
     
  20. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you look back to Modern Warfare, you will find that all Call of Duty's since then have been essentially the same in terms of gameplay.

    Heck, Black Ops uses an older engine than MW2, which is why it looks bad graphics-wise compared to MW2.
     
  21. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    That is severely disappointing...which probably means it's less optimized too.
     
  22. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    Ugh, idk why I hit the prestige button AGAIN... but that's not the ugh. What sucks right now is since the last patch that was supposed to "optimize" the game, I've been getting random crashes where I have to kill it with ctrl alt del. I don't even know if it is counting my challenges/kills/stats ect when I kill it.
     
  23. shinakuma9

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    I've migrated to just playing on 24/7 Nuketown servers. Demolition, its quite fun actually and i like the map because you can try all sorts of stupid stuff with your classes. I tried sniping with a ballistic knife and so far i got 1 kill out of 40 tries haha.
     
  24. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    lol, I've also love Nuketown :p
     
  25. AznImports602

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    Is anyone having freezing up issue in that the game just locks up and I have to control alt delete to cancel the game.
     
  26. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    Just another caring kill... :)
     
  27. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    Yep . 10.Char
     
  28. E.D.U.

    E.D.U. Notebook Deity

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    Yep, I am experiencing the "freezing/crashing" too. I mentioned it on the " Black Ops woes" thread a couple days back. Been having the issue since the most recent patch (Nov. 19). I've just decided to stop playing multiplayer entirely until they fix the dang thing (I never froze and never really stuttered before last patch). Treyarch have really ticked me off with the performance problems with this PC game. Definitely the last time I preorder any game, especially Treyarch and COD games (It'll take a lot to get me to even buy the next COD game at all). It's all quite sad really.....
     
  29. Levenly

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    not at all. try lowering your resolution and try

    cl_maxpackets 100
    cl_rate 25000 (or maybe it's cmd_rate 25000)

    either way your rate needs to be 25000.

    the maxpackets helps with how many packets you can accept i believe, where 100 packets is considered what cable internet users should be able to use, whereas the default was 30 which is sufficient for dsl users and below.

    the rate helps determine how much communication is going to the server.

    50000 is max, and if you max that then you're flooding the server with communication and are going to slow it, or the server down. i don't recall the low, perhaps 1000 or something, but if you're too low you're not communicating with the server enough.

    the game is perfectly fluid for me. it used to hang a bit occassionally before, but not anymore.
     
  30. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    Don't think you quite understand levenly, this is an issue of the game hard crashing, often without error messages. It's not stuttering, it runs perfectly - up until it crashes out of nowhere. It's just since the last 11/19 patch.
     
  31. Levenly

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    change your network settings, though. this can account for many of the failings in the game right now. the game prematurely debuted, probably because treyarch needed money. there are a lot of tweaks that are going into the game.

    the most recent patch was supposed to help some ingame settings as well as lower the CPU ingame resources.

    i used to get caught in "sending game settings" or something that would end up crashing my game. the game is getting stuck in an infinite loop somewhere. it'll probably take another month to iron out most of the issues.
     
  32. Domochevsky

    Domochevsky Newbie

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    BlackOps MP, just nice revamp of MW2 MP. Just as fast and crazy, but with more balance and really fun killstreaks. Is it justify 60$? Hard to tell really, animation clunky, graphics outdated - Treyarch maybe fixed some Infinity Ward bugs, but all in all its same MW2. Guess i'll play a little more till BC2:Vietnam release and for one more year forget about Call of Duty.


    P.S. Never got any freezes in game, its sure was laggy few days after release, but since server fix its work pretty smooth for me. You can try to disable steam overlay/cloud and/or just lower steam process priority while in game.
     
  33. tuηay

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    It is unplayable for me atm. Crash/freeze too often to enjoy. What a waste...
     
  34. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    froze twice for me yesterday on my server so ctrl/ald/del was the only way out. didnt affect other players at the same time but they also had the same issue at different times. also finding it very jumpy again since the last patch.
     
  35. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    Yep. I also had to do CTRL+ALT+DELETE to kill the game. But I've also had to hold the powerbutton and forceclose my system. Twice.
     
  36. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thats not good.
    servers are playing up again today. sometimes only shows 50 in my list out of thousands.
    hopefully one day they will get it sorted.
     
  37. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    Found a fix that is working for me to stop the random hard crashes:

    open folder steam/steamapps/common/black ops/players
    open config_mp.cfg in notepad or any editor
    search for: seta r_multigpu

    change BOTH values to:
    seta r_multiGpu "0"
    seta r_multithreaded_device "1"

    It's been playing well for a few days now. It baffles me how they think that people commonly have SLI/XF setups but not multicore cpu's, which is what these 2 settings control.

    Set the file to read only, the only downside is that every time you launch the game it will ask you if you want to revert to default recommended system settings, always click no.
     
  38. City Pig

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    *points to the original post* :p
     
  39. jerizo

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    i had some freezes at the beginning but right now i worx just fine
     
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