Black Ops Multiplayer Thoughts

I have done both the mulitGPU and multithread tweak, not sure if either made much difference but definitely didn't hurt.

I have not tried the console packet tip yet, will try this evening.

Is a really fun game though, and I'm sure they will fix it, but was surprised how much worse multiplayer really was... I assumed all the fussing was a bit overhyped.

Defintely a fun game though, singleplayer is awesome and multi is gonna be really fun.

 

I've been having a blast with Black Ops so far. I think the lag isn't quite as bad as many people are making it out to be, and my PC is far from high end.

 

I just started out on Single player. I maxed it out, was sure that my laptop not was going to handle it but what I see is beautiful grapichs with exlent FPS. I know this issue is only for MP, but I must say I'm suprized that my T9600 and 9800M GTX can run it on max @ 1440x900.

 

ok, was playing around and saw a few posts in the Asus section of the forum that recommend disabling shadows, and sure enough, with that one change alone I've played 4 straight matches all perfectly smooth with no lag, framerate never dipping below 50 and most times locked at 60. An amazing difference, so at least in my case with the ATI 5870/G73, shadows make a HUGE difference... not in framerate, as the framerate stayed the same, but the lagging smoothed out completely.

A weird bug for sure.

 

Ya know, I thought the same thing until I actually had the problem... the weird part is though I honestly don't think it has anything to do with computer speed/power, I think it's more of a bug that conflicts with certain hardware/settings. It definitely is a problem though, I'm not that picky and it drove me nuts, at least on my machine.

 

I turned off shadows and my stutter was eliminated. I would suggest you try it if you haven't yet.

 

After getting to level 47, I really dislike this game. I wish it were more like MW2.
Sure MW2 was unbalanced, but in this game there is way more camping and claymores, you can barely even hear enemy footsteps, damage is nerfed to hell and it's not 'bout reaction anymore. Plus, spraying is much more prevalent because the hipfire is more accurate Luckily, I've got the hardcore games, but still, in those, spraying is pretty annoying.

 

I've been having fun messing around with the crossbow,its awesome getting long range impact kills with it

 

The difference between you and me, 1) You claim that your PC isn't really high end to begin with, 2) You probably don't have alot of PC titles, or at least titles that you actually want to play. So you've decided to settle for the Flaws or Lacks of BO, and you are happy with the final product you have right now.Thus, you've convinced yourself that the faults aren't major and are all very minor and that you can live with them instead of trying out a few different titles, because what you have here is Great and Good Enough I mean it's Perfect for your standards. You remind me alot of a good friend of mine (My Brother), who used fairly the same ideals and thinking with his current fiancée/girlfriend. Perhaps that's what life is about "settling." So with that being said I ask you now "Do you want to settle for more?" Or "Do you want to settle for less" I mean after all you are quite happy and content with how things are right now with it, so life's great.

It's reasons like this, you'll see either slow non-aggressive patching, or no patches at all. I mean hey its' not that bad afterall, it's actually really good, you should just leave it as is. I've settled, Why didn't you settle? Thats Enough.

 

Just got to level 50 (played mostly TDMs) and for me spraying wasn't that annoying. I used to spray too but I kept getting killed by people who aim.
So now I always try to aim first and I get much better k/d ratio that way, but if the enemy is too close and tries to knife me then I spray lol.
I have hacker pro for most of my classes so I eat claymores for breakfast.
I have also just tried the flak jacket and I thought it was awesome, no more random unlucky kills by nades and claymores anymore!

 

Ok..
I did set
seta r_multiGpu "1"
seta r_multithreaded_device "1"

Still my one gpu heats upto 70 while other gets maximum 48.
Looks its not working on SLI.
Whats up with this?
Any idea?

 

Sorry no clue.


For anyone who's bored.
YouTube - Call of Duty: Black Ops (Care Package Final Kill Cam) [PC] [HD]

 

Haha, look at the chat log

 

Since I finally have been able to see all my servers in my favorites,the main issue I have right now is the spawn system really blows.

Spawn killing happens way too much.

And ffs,can prematch NOT be in B&W? Its annoying trying to start a server due to this.

 

@darkloki
ok, maybe not tactical like BFBC2, but I mean, the maps are so huge and going with a team in one area to attack would be nice and then communicate that there are enemies in this one area. but with these random spawn locations, enemies appear behind you, in front of you or anywhere.

More of an Arcade Shooter, i am mostly agree. I would like servers to have option to turn off these random spawn points and just keep the original spawn points in the beginning. Also I noticed "lean" functions....
Has someone ACTUALLY used or had time to lean around corners in this fast paced game? Seems incredibly useless. Actually adding this lean function would just open up for great headshots from someone peeking around the corner, haha.

 

Need some tips to fix this heat differences issue!!!

 

Agreed, can't count the number of times I've spawned (with other teammates) in the middle of a damn firefight, or ON TOP OF A GRENADE. I'm also still having issues with the game forgetting when I level up (the bar says -##### xp til next lv) so I have to leave the server every couple games, really annoying.

The rest is just little annoyances like being unable to purchase contracts and whatnot without leaving the server, or how overpowered the smg's are compared to everything else, and how useless the sniper rifles are.

 

I get a max temprature of 79C.

 

Are they ever going to fix the spawn system? There are times on small maps where I spawn in the middle of the enemy spawn. Also it has the same issue of spawning near teammates which is dumb because if the enemy has a chopper gunner it is GG. I got 20 kills with CG the other night cause they kept spawning next to each other

And the L96 is freaking amazing. One shot, one kill baby.

 

I want to say that I'm really disappointed. My desktop core i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz w/ CF 5870, for some reason struggles with the first SP mission, and when reducing the graphics settings to the lowest possible, my frames got worse.

After the Cuba missions, it seemed to get progressively better which is nice, but the SP is still seriously flawed.

On my lappy (specs in sig) the SP experience is horrendous, even after the Cuba missions, the game is not playable with out turning my resolution down to 1440x900, with textures set to normal no shadows, no bullet impacts, no AA, no AF and corpses at tiny. Even at those settings the game is just barely playable.

The MP experience on my desktop was no better at launch completely un-playable, and now after a patch is only barely playable.

I'm not going to touch MP on my laptop. I've seen my grandma present slide shows faster than the frames I'm getting.

The game is clearly another poor port.

So after all of Treyarchs promises, saying that PC players would be treated right, promises of proper online play, and a game designed for PC players to love. We're left with a game that at the best of times is barely playable.

 

I think there is a patch to fix the fps and multiplayer issues.

 

im running the game at full settings at 1600x900 with anitializing at 60fps with the latest patch without any lags.

 

They tried to balance the multiplayer. But since there are no more noobtubes, the noobs have resorted to FRIGGIN LAST STAND. 7q38748248923784732
I am so pissed off by this, you know why? I swear, I would have at least 5 more kills per game if I DIDN'T FREAKING DIE BECAUSE OF A CRAPPY LAST STAND PERSON. Plus, these little fegs always seem to be around other players, so I get a hitmarker thinking I've killed the bugger and I work on killing the next guy, but he actually goes into last stand and I die w/o a damn kill cause my teammate comes and kills them for me.

 

why nnot just enter a server that kicks people who use second chance?..i have at least four servers on my favorites that use this feature, that's the great thing about dedicated servers........

regarding OP it runs absolutely find on the notebook in my sig max settings native resolution and high fps.

 

I have one on my favorites that does, but the problem is that most of them don't. :/

 

I believe the issue lies in, my card being a 460m... I've been reading alot about the 4xx cards having issues with older engines.

 

someone posted on here that turning shadows off removed all the stuttering, might try that.

 

Removing shadows does increase frames, but IMO puts you at sever disadvantage, shadows are integral to early detection.
And the increase is barely noticeable.

What it comes down to, is that the game was released unfinished, and poorly optimized in many respects on all platforms.

 

well not much else can be said, its the price you pay for buying the game before fixes are released.

 

game plays fine on my C2Q OC'd to 3.6,8 GB DDR2 and 2 5770s in Crossfire

 

Why was a new thread opened for this? IT should have been here.. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ds/531907-black-ops-multiplayer-thoughts.html

 

Wow, that is very odd considering I play CoD BO @ 1920x1080 max settings 4x AA on my p7805u Laptop and get no fps drops whatsoever. Running at 35+ average fps hooked up with HDMI on my 42 inch HDTV, the game looks and plays stunningly well. Your machine should be more than capable of running this game.

 

Well I don't have any experience with the PC version because I'm a console FPS player, but I mean really, a rant thread already??

The game is 6 DAYS OLD. Did you really expect it to be perfect right out of the gate? And if you did, I feel sorry for you.

We have quite a bit of bugs on the console too, but we all just have to be patient. If the game is broken, and it goes months and months without support (Modern Warfare 2), that's one thing, but to rant about the game when it's not even a week old is unfair.

 

I play 1920x1080 with my 1 GB GTX460 plays very smooth. And I'm still on 258.96 forceware drivers.

 

I play @ 1440x900 everything at high with smooth FPS, usually @ 35-40.

 

rig in sig 40-60 frames i guess
here is a youtube video with a frame counter . Maybe i should run a config

youtube

 

I feel sorry for you. This mentality that gamers are willing to accept garbage on the promise that things will eventually get fixed is the reason there are so many problems with every single game release. You and others like you have told publishers that unfinished and buggy games are acceptable. Most people (or I hope most) believe when they drop down $50-60 for a game that they are getting a finished and polished product that has gone through testing and some Q&A. Right now everyone has the right to feel cheated and robbed, because that is exactly what has happened.

 

I agree with this. If I have bought this game on day, be cause it is finished and on sale I expect every thing to work as it should when I get home.

 

I never said I was willing to accept any garbage for a game. I'm realistic, I don't expect a game to be flawless and perfect the day of release, ESPECIALLY with a game as big as the Call of Duty franchise (There was what, over 4 million copies sold within 24 hours?).

I would never accept an obviously faulty game with numerous and numerous of problems, but what I can accept is that a game has a few bugs on release, and that those bugs get fixed within a short amount of time.

Now, like I said, I don't own/play the game on the PC, but from reading what I have read, the PC has about the same number of problems as the console (with maybe a few that are different). I believe Treyarch want's/will support this game. You can't whip out a patch within 2 days of learning about a bug/flaw.

But by all means, if you feel cheated out of your money 6 days after release of the game, and you expect to see patches/results in that amount of time? The go for it, far be it for me to tell you how to feel. All I am asking is be a LITTLE patient. I don't mean a few months patient, but more than 6 days.

 

Instead of blaming each other, blame the console noobies, and Goldeneye and Halo who apparently are the Fathers of this "idea" that FPS games are in fact very Doable on Consoles, and have since pushed the PC users like yourselves into this party left behind consoles who are apparently fighting amongst themsevles instead of seeing the bigger and larger picture. Videogames are being dominated by the console market, Blizzard along with Valve somewhat is the only company who had stayed commited to the PC gamer, but even then Valve is picking up Console Noobies as well and catering to them. IF things keep up you and I will be playing non Blizzard and Valve games on Consoles, and then who are we going to blame? How long is it going to be till the notion or the statement, you want COD to work and be supported well? -- Get it on your Xbox or PS3, that's slowly making head way under the radar even as we speak right now.

 

Frankly those are the two sides of the argument.

@rschuaby, I feel your anger and agree for the most part, but they already said the patch is around the corner, so all we can do is wait (or return the game, if that's an option for you). Judging from COD:WAW, I can tell you that Treyarch supports their games pretty well.

@Tank, I also understand what you are saying. Bugs happen regardless of the developer's wishes. But, in reference to the first bolded phrase in your post, don't you think that's why the game SHOULD be as close to perfect as possible? Call of Duty has essentially become the biggest entertainment release every year since COD4, so Activision (I don't feel like I can blame the developers for these issues) should be really treating it as such. They should be testing the heck outta the game (which they might be, I'm not sure) and if they were, they shouldn't really be missing some of the bugs that are getting through to the final product IMO. I feel like it might have been rushed a bit as they were trying to get it out before the release date (before Christmas, etc). I would have never been upset if they pushed the release date back just to make sure things were ultra smooth, but then again I'm only one person. Then in regards to the second bolded phrase, they might have known about these glitches before the game even came out. This ties in with the "rushed" idea, they had go gold before the product was really at that level. So who's to blame? We'll probably never know, but I feel like consumers have a right to be a little ticked off.

With all that said, I feel like "huge disappointment" is an overstatement. I love the game. It's packed with content (hidden and all), the single player quite great (will play at least a couple more times) and I love all the MP maps (which I can't say for past COD's). The patch will hopefully only make this game better (as it should have been on release IMO).

 

^ Very well said.

I'm not saying no one has a right to be a bit upset (I'm upset about some of the bugs too), all I'm asking is to give it just a little time. If it doesn't work out soon, then I will be right behind all of you, holding my pitchfork and torch.

 

They probably didn't know (and couldn't test) how their system would work with (according to steam) 100,000 players playing at once. I'm sure they made it to the best of their abilities and are working on a few fixes. Expect the consoles to get support first, seeing as most the sales went to consoles.

 

You know it's a bad thing when you have EA and Call of duty producing the majority of the titles you look forward to in PC gaming, so bad for the market I suppose I should just be happy that I have dedcated servers on my FPS games these days.

 

Ya, consoles usually get updated first. 100,000 on steam? We sometimes have 3 million on xbox, lol.

 

Here's some interesting info about the patch coming before weekend.
Black ops patch - Call of duty black ops patch - Call Of Duty Black Ops QA about patch and fixes on PC | Call of Duty Blackops


Something to look forward to...
Q: Are there any engine optimisations coming I am above the min spec but still get awful fps in lowest settings, not lag related.
A: We have some nice optimizations for better FPS going into QA tomorrow.

 

ROFL, just saw a thread about morons complaining they can't quick scope, which IMO the concept is complete rubbish.


Anyways dude posts a video and I just couldn't stop laughing. I have no idea what he's aiming at. First shot he aims for the ground.... And he hits the ground. Another he gets shot and just blind shoots and well, it was a blind shot. Then he tries to shoot someone between their legs while getting shot at, since he is completely wide open standing like a nub for anyone to take target practice at and he misses. And he gets mad, post video saying sniping is broken. Learn to aim... OMG you can't aim when you take bullet hits! Oh noes, bullet drop exists! And he calls someone else a noob when that person says he can snipe fine, when he's not wide open for every noob to shoot at him... lols.

YouTube - Black Ops sniping is broken

Also the problem on PC is extremely noobish on Treyarch's part, speaking of noobs. It's not just having beta testing to stress servers. The game actually doesn't multi-thread properly and use GPU properly, overstressing the CPU and frankly NOT working like a PC game. It's pathetic considering how many COD games have been released for PC previously. No doubt former Infinity Ward employees must think, wow Treyarch are morons and having a good laugh.

 

Hows the lag so far in this game? I didn't get it yet cause my friend told me to wait until they patch the unplayability.

 

it was really bad last week but slightly better this week since the first patch. still could be better so we await the next patch.

 

I wonder if the new ATI drivers that were released ( or at least that Windows 7 did an update on) are going to help out at all.