Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

Not a defect, it's by design.

 

Yes, an inherently defective design.

 

More like the entire manufacturing process, Intel's 22nm is crap.

 

Still better than AMD's 32nm. FX-9590 220W space heater, anyone?

Can we just have Sandy Bridge back?

 

Sandy Bridge FTW! I reckon that was the best time to buy a CPU, no great improvements since then, and Sandy Bridge CPUs still kick a** & are perfectly fine for everything. (And that's since 2011 right!)

 

I don't know. Clock for clock they run about the same temps. You'd need a Sandy Bridge i7-2860QM at 2.5GHz to match an i7-4710MQ, and if you run at similar performance, you'd need an XM Sandy Bridge, and guarantee they both run as hot.

 

On 17th July NVIDIA posted a countdown of 27 days. Today is that 27th day. I wonder what they have to announce? Or was it just a countdown to the whole of gamescon in general?

 

An 8" SHIELD tablet!

 

Nehelem is even more legendary. Clocked at 3.8ghz I can keep up with sandy bridge and even ivy bridge high end chips haha (passmark 7600 same as stock 2920xm lol). Heat is something that can be modded away.....

 

I will lead an execution team to NVIDIA HQ if this happens

 

People say GTX 870 pics leaked.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870 specifications leaked? | VideoCardz.com

 

According to NordicHardware, the Maxwell press event (with live streaming) happens September 11th or 12th.
Geforce GTX 880 lurar runt hörnet när Nvidia samlar pressen i september | Grafik

There are also rumors lurking around that Mobile GM204 graphic cards will be 20nm while desktop will be 28nm.
Take it with salt, but who knows what Nvidia have in their sleeves.
Maxwell Geforce GTX 800 Series and Mobility GPUs Might Be On the 20nm Node After All [Updated]

 

Lol if the second part is true then that's awesome we will get the better end of the bargain also means we might not see a 16 NM refresh maybe.

 

20nm would be too cool. Although it would be fair because 900m-Series is one step further than 800-Series.

 

That's how I want it to be.

Let's go, NVIDIA. I'd like to see Maxwell before I die from old age.

 

It definitely changes things for sure. We should have very cool GPUs with pretty awesome performance.
But I find it odd that Nvidia would make GM204 in 28nm for desktop while 20nm for mobile.
Unless they have a small production of 20nm going on at TSMC and have to make priority on which GPUs they will start with 20nm. In which case it means that 20nm will become mainstream in 2015 for all GPUs eventually.

Strange rumor

Already seen it. I think it is legit, but not sure GPU-z is reporting the information correct. Few hours after the leak GPU-z was updated to reckognize GM204 so I wonder if it was to avoid false detection like that?

 

Maybe it will delay the 900M series release?

 

mobile components are usually more expensive then their desktop counterparts also maxwell was design with laptop first in mind. So it would make sense that can develop on 20 NM and still maintain a profit margin and since mobile components aren't in as a high demand as desktop parts.

 

I have heard from several sources that GTX 980M will be still be here in October.

You make good points killer, and 20nm could be the reason why they are going 900 series with mobile while staying in 800 series with desktop since its 28nm. Maybe they will jump to 900 series with desktop once 20nm is ready for them too?

Very interesting for sure. Would love rocking a 20nm 980M this year
Still very sceptical about this rumor though but we will see.

 

Now the 16-NM rumor seems unlikely now , well I don't mind as long as we get 20 NM.

 

Oooh by the power invested in the mighty Gaben please let these sacred prophecies come to fruition!

 

We will finally have the same performance as the desktops hopefully , I hope they continue down this line and give us 16 NM while they give desktop users 20 NM they will finally be even and we don't have to listen to desktop smugness

 

Why, that would be just beautiful... the mere thought brings tears of joy to my eyes.

 

16nm FinFET from TSMC is 20nm killer.
Its a bit complicated to explain but the fins is 20nm at the base and 16nm at the top. So they call it 16nm.

Here is typical fins you find to visualize it easier

 

Interesting thanks for the link

 

I am not sure what to think about the 20nm rumor and the fact that it originated from Fudzilla doesn't help it one bit.

 

Let's hope the rumors are true! A 20mn maxwell GPU would certainly be a very nice increase in performance while still low enough TDP for the 100W envelope. IT would certainly be a huge hit to Tonga to stop it at its tracks regarding performance king.

I am excited!

 

Idk if I got lucky or what but my haswell 4810mq peaks at 68c under full load. My old ivy bridge would go up to 97c on a daily basis...

 

depends what you do for peak...browsing? try something to stress it and then post

 

Try some arma 3 or watchdogs

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AIDA64 got a new update

Whats New
BWCT LCD support
Crystalfontz CFA-53x, CFA-63x, CFA-73x LCD support
POS VFD support
Trefon 128×64 LCD support
improved LCD contrast configuration
improved bitmap display protocol on Matrix Orbital GLK, GLT LCDs
active page LED indicators on Matrix Orbital GLK, GLT LCDs
HW Monitoring / Logging / log started, log finished information
support for OpenGL 4.5
preliminary GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 870 (GM204)
preliminary GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 880 (GM204)
motherboard specific sensor info for Asus B85M-E/DASH, B85M-F, B85M-F R2.0, Q87M-A/TYCO/SI
fixed: System Stability Test / messaging issues
fixed: Sure Edition II and Edition III LCD suppo

 

My 4810MQ runs in that range with the fans never coming on in my NP7338, but only when I'm just using it for daily lightweight stuff that does not put hardly any load on the CPU. Do anything that puts the CPU at 100% load and it will quickly heat right up to the 80-90's. Worse case it will be like mine and down clock or throttle very quickly to keep the temps within spec.

 

or bf4 64 map multi

 

That's what I'm talking about... Idling is in high 40s low 50s. Crysis 3, bf4 abd all that hit around 60. I do the xtu stress test and when I'm rendering 4k videos in premiere pro and after effects for long periods of time. I got all the cooling upgrades on my sager though like ic diamond, extra copper and a cooling pad

 

Leave the CPU discussion elsewhere guys.
This thread is about Maxwell, GPUs.

 

If 20nm is true, then it looks like I'll probably be doing yet *another* upgrade in the near future...

 

I will upgrade regardless if its 28nm or 20nm. I think even a 28nm will be pretty tempting even for you HT hehe.
But I wont lie, 20nm and its positive sides will be a pretty sweet frosting on that cake

 

Well I guess I'm pretty happy with my 860m. Having something 40-50% faster would be nice though, at the same TDP and temps.

 

So do you think if they release 20nm version of the gm204 for mobile , that we will have the performance as the 28nm desktop counter parts ? (-_-) I wish gamescon has some info on this ,

 

It depends killer on what clocks it operates and what number of CUs they're going to put in.

I'll sell the 780m and get the 980m if it proves compatible with my GT60-2OD. It will be like god sent for that notebook. Temp and efficiency wise.

 

Unless the 880M's ghost sneaks up and bites you right in the, you know what.

 

so it's not those rectangular fins like the ones in broadwell huh? tsmc trying to play some tricks I guess

 

So if the 980m at 28nm would be equal to a 780 desktop, then what would a 20nm be equal to? Something beyond the 780 ti?!?!? Just a bit confused?

 

I'm having a lot of trouble seeing a mobile 780ti. My sli 780ti desktop is a beast and those cards are hot and large.

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Yeah I don't see it either. These predictions are getting ridiculous.

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The current 780ti is based on Kelper though. I have a feeling that Maxwell mobile is gonna be amazing. Can't wait to see it

 

How well do those run bf4 at 1080p with a resolution scale off 200 percent on with all anti aliasing turned off? Or just 4k with no aa?

I'm curious because every 4k benchmark I see has full msaa 4x turned on. I don't think is that important at 4k on a 15-17 inch laptop screen in the future?

I'm dying to know how those bad boys play bf4 at 4k with no aa

 

For some of us planning on VR gaming we need all the horsepower we can get. The current oculus dk2 needs to run at 1080p at 75Hz for the best experience. When CV1 of the oculus rift is released it will most likely sport a 1440p screen running either 75hz or 90hz. So I'm hoping for some pretty hefty gains with the upcoming maxwell

 

20nm Maxwell = 780Ti maybe I can believe. 28nm Maxwell no way.

 

At 1440p even with AA turned on pretty much nothing will make it lose a step I have not yet tried 4k as I do not have the monitor

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