Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

That's why I'm asking about the resolution scale

 

Have never changed the scaling, not really sure about that option haven't really ever changed it so I'm assuming 1x scaling. I will try out the scaling options tomorrow and let you know.

 

Okay thanks. Just set the resolution to 1080p then 200 percent res scale with no aa and let me if it still gets over 60 fps. If it does, then getting a 4k 980m sli laptop will be golden!

 

It's supersampling. So 1440p w/200% res scale is internally rendering at 5120x2880 and 1080p is 4K.

 

another 4 month before 980m comes out, hopefully its 20nm

 

4 months? October is 2 months away on my calendar...

I hope this thing equals a 780ti. It has been nearly 3 years since Kepler rose it's pretty head!

Should be a good time! Both nvidia and amd are playing very close to the chest I think both fear what the other will release hence the latest 980m 20nm rumour. We will see some beast cards!!

 

Im sure a lot of people felt the same when Kepler was about to arrive.
"Hahaha matching a 250W GTX 580?! Youre nuts man"

And there came GTX 680M, Matching a 220W GTX 570 and a 250W GTX 580 with a little bit of overclock...

That is the whole idea behind a new architecture. Leaving the old ones behind

 

With GTX 870 barely matching a 780 there is no way a mobile card will match a 780Ti. Heck you will be lucky if desktop 880 comes even close to 780Ti. Well considering Gigabyte's pricing leaks I doubt it will.

 

I'm inclined to agree. No way the next flashship mobile card will equal a 780ti in performance let alone a 780.
I'll gladly eat my hat if I'm wrong.

 

Typically for a process and arch change you would expect the new card to match the old gen cards in SLI.

 

If the mobile version is 20 NM and the desktop is 28 NM then that means the mobile version will have a higher performance/watt and thus will be able to fit in the same performance that the desktop version but at a much lower tdp. This release of cards are much more than the typical subject "desktop are always stronger than mobile cards" . if they mobile version are based on 28 NM then yes the mobile will weaker.

 

As long as the next gen beats the current 880m in power and heat i dont care. Im not getting my laptop back till the maxwell cards come out!!

 

There's no way... That has got to slow down for GPUs like it did for CPUs...

My 880M SLI when they aren't throttling still beat my 780 Ti superclocked ACX card until I overclock it even further, there's just no way they're gonna cram that kind of performance into a single card and be able to dissipate heat.

 

Will only slow down for GPU's until they can no longer shrink the process. If they shrink the process with each architecture enough to fit nearly twice the number of transistors per mm squared combined with improvements in architectural efficiencies then I don't see why performance can't double with a newly shrunk process & change of architecture.

 

Just wait and see. Stop arguing about it.

 

The sceptics are everywhere

Who said GTX 980M will be based on GTX 870? If the TDP is around 130W Nvidia don`t have to sacrifice anything to get down to 100W. It would be more suitable for a 75W GPU, aka GTX 970M.
Say GTX 880 is 170W, they can still make GTX 980M out of it.

 

You should read this: Next Gen Graphics and Process Migration: 20 nm and Beyond | PC Perspective

 

Thanks for the link, I read most of it, and scanned some of it, will bookmark it for a more thorough read later. Yes, it does seem that it's getting harder to consistently shrink the process, so there are challenges ahead for them, and it looks like the development process will slow down, with longer gaps between process nodes. It also cited potential scaling issues as processes were shrunk, with them being great for low power operations, but increasingly innefficient at high clockspeeds. I guess that last sentence is what could prevent double performance on a shrunk process with double the transistor density.

 

Guess I'll be selling my current rig in 2/3 months then. Oh well, at least I would have gotten 6 months or so of good use out of it.

 

Good link... Die shrinks sometimes means hotter, and hotter definitely isn't better. Haswell uses less voltage, but runs much hotter. If we see something similar play out in GPU-land if might be not end as well as we all hope it will.

ROFLMAO at that meme. That must have been Gates' reaction the first time he saw the Modern UI.

Wait and see is the best approach here. The story may have an awesome ending, but it might not. It will be interesting, to say the least.

 

Well, you can't spell Maxwell without (part of) Haswell. So all may not end well.

OK I'm done.

 

*flies away*

 

Process shrinks aren't anywhere as efficient anymore, I have known this for quite some time. The transistor density has increased so much that cooling has become an issue (Hawaii is a great example of that). Also all those formulas you guys use to estimate efficiency and performance improvements don't work anymore. Moore's law doesn't work anymore (and hasn't been working for at least two years now). Density increase isn't a linear function anymore. And things are only gona get worse from here.
Graphene can't come soon enough. Until then don't expect much from process shrinks, especially for CPUs.

 

If the equations don't work then we won't be able to make new chips that perform better (-_-) please let me know how do you think new chips are designed ?

 

Santa Claus.

 

Lol if only, Moore's law might actually stay true past 20 NM

 

Obviously Fabs know the new formulas because they do research on them, I am just saying you guys don't know what to expect from new processes.

 

Lol I never have seen anyone use anytype of formulas in this forum that I would consider close to be counted as an engineering analysis or even back of the napkin analysis

 

Ask and ye shall receive:



Bonus points for whoever figures out what this is

 

Thats one complicated formula, and a four dimensional one at that.

 

E=mc ²

Simple enough.

 

I'm guessing it's spherical harmonics. Closely related to my field but I've yet to bash through the classic texts to actually understand the stuff

 

Spherical Harmonics hey! I understand both of those two words, but not when they're put together - the formula less so! If I would hazard a guess, is it something to do with how spherical objects resonate?! [Off Topic Alert!]

 

That equation is actually the full wavefunction for the hydrogen atom, so spherical harmonics is actually pretty on the mark, as it is an intrinsic part of the wavefunction. And please don't ask me what a wavefunction is, <del>it's too complicated to explain</del> I've long forgotten all the quantum mechanics stuff I learned in my junior year.

 

Lol I knew it was something related to the wave function just couldnt find it (-_-) ...

 

So I couldn't read all of this thread (not even the last couple pages with all the going off topic and what not I saw), so I'll ask.
It's rumored that Nvidia might announce these cards in September? (Early, Mid, Late?)
I'm trying to see if I should wait a month or so before purchasing a laptop (I want one for class to do work somewhere other than my room if needed)

 

Wednesday 10th or 11th September is when Nvidia is suppose to reveal the architecture according to Nordichardware.
It is not known wether its only desktop or they launch desktop and mobile at the same time.

 

Okay, thanks. I think I'll probably wait until then, not too far.

 

I don't understand much about it at all, and I'm waiting to buy my notebook.

So please, give me some insights. Do you guys think that notebooks with the new Maxwell will be in the market before 2015?

 

Still waiting for some new leak. But first up is AMD and R9 M295X. August 23rd, next saturday hopefully

 

(Anyone else been getting loads of popups on notebook forums saying?: "69.162.111.227 It is recommended that you update Java to the latest version to view this page. Please update to continue.". Only happening on this site for the past 2 days, seems to have stopped within the last few hours though. Think this website was compromised for a while.)

 

I have recieved none of that before here
I had an update from Java a week ago or something, but no popup, just a notification in my system bar.

You should scan for virus and spyware
A quick google search on that IP got a ton of recent hits

 

Nvidia GTX Titan II Flagship with GM200 Core Is Launching Sooner Than Expected - Ready Within 2 Months

could be true


I wonder if they can get the GM200 on 20nm in notebooks

 

Yep, definitely not legit! Did Malwarebytes & Avira scan - no detections. Just happening on this site, happened again 10 mins ago. Maybe it's only affecting some people that visit this site, very site specific, not happening on other sites for me, I think there are some infected ads on this website over the last 2 days.

 

If you have windows 7 try combofix then malwarebytes then spybot

 

Yeah both the research paper (written by an Nvidia employee) and Zauba shows GM200 would come very late this year. We wont see it though.

Look at GM204 btw. 26th June was the last time it shipped from TSMC to Nvidia. About 2 months now since that last update. Previously they updated it 1-2 times a week.
Its been taped out and mass produced in the thousands for sure.
I`m glad the wait is soon over. Now my next hurdle is what brand should I choose next. Alienware 18? MSI`s new GT72? Asus G-series?

 

I hope so , and it seems like alienware might refresh their design hoping for 3K display

 

Cheers Killerinstinct, I might try combofix. (Tried Spybot too though).

 

Yikes hold on there, ComboFix can be lethal if you (or it) doesn't know what it's doing. Oh and no popups for me btw, using MalwareBytes Pro so maybe it blocked them?

 

Damn! Now I looked up the MSI GT72 and that thing looks frickin' awesome! But I promised myself I'd go SLI this time around... to SLI or not to SLI?... 1ST WORLD PROBLEMS!!!