Brand-new Nvidia 675MX shows up?

Nope, they put it at 3249

 

Oh, you're right. Hm, I've been looking at overall scores the whole time.

 

MSI's website has both of the new GPUs listed in machines already. Tis awesome. ^_^

 

Overclocking the GPU from 600MHz to 735MHz and the memory from 900MHz to 1023MHz will give you 20% better performance and a lousy 3 Celsius temperature increase. Still WAY cooler than 675M stock and about 43% better performance. Pretty decent if you ask me

 

Wait, you're pulling off those scores with a 675mx? dayum lol, nice. The vantang score is higher than my 7970stock.

 

The score is highly inflated by his ridiculous CPU score. He used the GPU for PhysX instead of his CPU, which is why it's higher. The GPU is still weaker than the 7970M by a decent 10% margin even after overclocking.

But no biggie. ^_^ I can deal with that if need be.

 

But how it can be?????
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2960XM Processor,CLEVO P150HMx score: P21412 3DMarks
And its stock...

 

I didn't break 21k stock. With a mild overclock, I made it to 22k. My gpu score was higher than his, though. My 3Dmark 11 score broke 6300 with the overclock (900 and 1300); it was 5800 stock. So, still higher than his scores, except that his overall score on vantage beat my stock vantage score. I'm a noob to benchmarking, didn't use throttlestop or anything, so I could probably get better numbers if I knew what I was doing lol. It would also help my scores if I actually did a proper oc, my overclock was about 25% of his. Also, my last 4gb of ram isn't in, so I'm only 12gb. Shouldn't make much of a difference though.

Still excellent scores for the 675mx, I'm really impressed.

a couple of my scores that I saved:

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P21835 3DMarks

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6241 3DMarks

How do I do that? I want super inflated scores

 

Its all about the gpu score.
His gpu score is 18997(overclocked)and 21600(stock).there is big difference....
But anyway its a good card.

 

Yup, I'm impressed either way. I just noticed your overclock in your sig, I can't believe it's stable at those clocks!

 

Hey now, My 7970m was the best.

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P8941 3DMarks

Man, that benchmark makes me laugh every time. Scroll down Graphics Test 4.

 

Looks very exciting. Nice to finally see the models to bridge the gap between the 660M and the 680M coming out.

 

I have to say, the 675MX has lost a lot of value, as long as Sager is giving away free 675Ms.

 

Just noticed, you have a point.

 

I noticed that some vendors are offering it as a 150 dollar upgrade over the free 675m option. In my opinion, it's worth it.

 

What with the 675MX being a lower wattage and faster at the same time AND overclocks like a monster at base voltage? Absolutely.

I still want one, even if I do take a dip in performance from this 7970M. The inability to overcock the 7970M is what's killing me.

 

Why are you unable to oc the 7970? I've had no problem with small/moderate overclocks. Temps aren't much of an issue for me.

 

My M17x R2 isn't built with a 100w GPU in mind. the 5870M was only 75w tops, if that. The 7970M is much warmer than it as well. That and my GPU heatsink is burnt out and I need a new one. My CPU heatsink was the same way until I replaced it. >.> Kinda lame.

 

Oh, that sucks :/ I'ts cool that you've kept it upgrading it over the years.

I guess the heat wouldn't be as much of an issue with the cooler 675mx. I doubt you could oc a 675mx to 7970m performance though, right? I know that's not what you're worried about, I'm just curious. Cloudfire's 675mx is the only oc'ed mx benchmark I'm seen (impressive, but not quite on par with 7970 and quite a bit below 680m)

 

will burn out the 675m or the socket if you try to overvolt it too much :S without overvolt i could only overclock around 16~17% for a stable experience

 

An overvoltage WILL burn both your 675M and mobo

See quote above

 

Ugh.

I'm debating 3 options right now for a new Sager NP9150:

1) Get the 675MX
2) Get the 7970M
3) Wait longer until the Nvidia 7xx series or AMD 8xxx series comes out.

In regards to #3, how long would it be until a new GPU series comes out?
and
Which option?!?!?!?

 

nobody really knows when the newer GPUs will be out as the current 7xxx AMD and 6xx NV are pretty new and hot right now, so waiting may be another 6-12 months or so, and by the time these new models come out they will be JUST FIT for that time games and rendering applications demands/requirements. So buying best now is just fit for current highest demand games and such, buying after a year same will be applied for that time stuff. I suggest, if you want to be so future proof, here is wha you can do: NOTHING. I suppose buy now combo that meets your needs for whatever you do. If youre gamer single 7970m will do more than enough, so would do 675MX / 680m... If you cant afford, build desktop, or drop your detailing settings if youre about gaming performance, good stuff is never fre and will never be future-proof. Another good suggestion for real is buy dual GPU system like M18X R2, sager NP9170 or 9370 with cheapest i7 3rd gen cpu, and gpu/gpu's of your choice... then if if you must have laptop till the new stuff comes out,which apparently you want, you can run your stuff on that machine till then and buy extras when new GPUs come out... by then CPU's prices will go down, high end CPU purchase then will accompany newest hottest GPUS that will be out, IF THEY WILL STILL REMAIN SAME FIT as referring to MXM 3.0 B if nothing is going to change in hardware terms.... fix me in any way if you feel I told something that doesnt make sense

BR

 

If this is any indication, desktop 780 is due out in March 2013: No NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 before March 2013, Maxwell Only in 2014? by VR-Zone.com

But no idea on mobile chip. Likely middle of next year. I'd say at least 6 months. I wouldn't doubt if there would be a 685m in the interim with a slight bump in speed. Considering the overclock potential of the 680m, I wouldn't doubt they'd release one at 800MHz core or something and just call it a 685m.

 

I have a serious debate right now between the 675MX and the 7970m, the idea would be the 680m but its out of my pricerange.

The 7970m is obviously a powerhouse but it seems like it gets very hot and enduro issues (battery life) still seem like a huge problem.

675mx is still not quite that fast but it has optimus and that is really all I care about, so I dont know which one to go for. I like the best of both worlds. I want a superb gaming experience and a long lasting cool reliable card....

 

Gtx 675mx

 

Also I tried reading a little about it, but since the card consumes very little voltage, if I overclock it it should be able to get unpar with a 7970m? Also I keep reading it has 2gb of vram, but on xotic it has 4gb of vram....

 

675MX has 2GB vRAM. 4GB is pointless anyhow.

 

Waiting is pointless unless we are talking a month for new GPU's, we're not really at that stage of the cycle. Set a budget and get the best you can for your needs. There will always be something better around the corner. And never look back until you are ready to buy again.

I bought the 675M knowing there was always something better coming, I still love the unit I have it does everything I need it to and does it well.

 

How on earth should we answer this question? It all depends what you prioritize.
Cooler temperatures? 675MX.
Best performance? 7970M.
Do you have to play the max of max settings in all games? No? 675MX. Yes? 7970M
Switchable graphics that works right now perfectly? 675MX. Want to wait 1 month to see the hotfix from AMD? 7970M.
Care about performance/$? 7970M.

That said, both 675MX and 7970M can be overclocked. If you look through this thread you can see that the 675MX along with 680M overclock like a champ with very little temperature increase which may benefit you greatly in the games that can`t be played with max of max settings in some games. 7970M is also a GPU that overclock pretty good.

Yep absolutely true. For 1080p resolutions, which covers 99.9% of all notebooks, 2GB is more than enough. For 4 screens, or higher settings than 1080p, you might need higher than 2GB

 

Then it's not useless... think you guys are missing the point

 

OK, useless for 99% of all users

 

2GB is more than adequate for high end desktop GPU's. It's only much higher resolutions that it needs more RAM, but then you're restricted by the performance of the GPU and bandwidth of the vRAM.

See here: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/24/amd_radeon_hd_6950_1gb_performance_review/1

 

I think you need something more than 2GB when you play this

My vRAM usage spiked from 1080MB to about 1600MB

 

Texture size for RAM vs vRAM required for churning out the frames are completely different. Just because it shows RAM used doesn't mean that it can be utilized by the GPU. The GPU could simply not be powerful enough to process that info at reasonable framerates. What do you think happens when a game requires more than 1GB for textures but your GPU only has 1GB vRAM? It stores it in system RAM and pulls it into the vRAM as needed. High resolutions require more vRAM, but higher resolutions also require massive GPU power to drive those resolutions. So the actual RAM required to drive, say a 1080p triple monitor setup (5760x1080) may be 1.5GB if it runs 16x AA and at 60fps, if the GPU can only manage 30fps that RAM isn't being utilized.

 

I think you guys are talking about different things. There will be edge cases with SLI + triple monitor setups that need more than 2gb of vram, but in the context of this thread, having 2gb of vram on the 675mx as opposed to 4gb makes no difference.

 

Guys did you see the review of notebookcheck for 675mx?? The gaming performance is only 5% better then gtx 675m which is so bad performance and too far from our expectations. Can this review be true or the notebookcheck messed up with it...

 

I think it should be lil more powerfull than just 5%

 

LOL maybe you should try to read the review again. Seems like you missed a lot of stuff. And please take Notebookcheck reviews with a TON of salt since they are inaccurate with a lot of stuff.

GTX 675M compared to 675MX with max settings @1080p:

Dishonored: -11%
World of tanks: -13%
F1 2012: -23%
Borderlands 2: -16%
Guild Wars 2: -2% (LOL)
Counter Strike: -22%
Darksiders 2: -5% (LOL)
Sleeping Dogs: -7%
Ghost Recon: -38%
Max Payne 3: -18%
Dirt Showdown: -14%
Diablo 3: -33%
Risen 2: -5% (LOL)
Alan Wake: -15%
Anno 2070: -13%
Skyrim: +2% (Seriously LOL)
COD 3: -23%
Battlefield 3: -15%
http://www.notebookcheck.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-675MX.82566.0.html

I see 4 games NBC tested which are a major WhatTheBalls, other than those 4 games, the 675M is in average 19% slower than 675MX

 

Not to mention drivers aren't very mature for the 675MX yet.

 

Yep, 675M/580M have been improved and improved over many months over many drivers.

 

LIES
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wow they are totally improved, if i run 3d mark 11 on my 485m, which is pretty much the same as a 580m/675m, there is about a 15% improvement with the latest drivers compared to the drivers my machine shipped with.

 

Do you think that the Nvidia gtx675mx is worth the $250 price tag? I've heard that it is about 15-20% better than the 675m at stock speeds. But the 675m is also a free upgrade right now and I was thinking about just settling for that. Is the kepler architecture and better performance worth it?

 

This all up to your preference in terms of how you see it. I ordered just the FREE upgrade to the GTX 675M. I personally see this as Value for Money.

 

It's not a terrible deal, but for around the same price you can get the 7970m which completely blows it out the water in terms of performance. Also, the new 12.11 beta fixes the enduro utilization problems and improves performance by as much as 20%. Stock 3DMark benchmark scores are higher than the 680m's now.

 

That depends on who you are comparing them to. Stock my 680m scores 6400 GPU. They seem to vary quite a bit.

 

how about the 670mx? from Geforce's website it is only slower than the 675m by little (3dmark), is it worth the buy vs. 675m?

 

Well it's got a much MUCH lower TDP so... it runs just as fast, but crazy cool all in the same.

 

would you consider the 670mx over the 675m because it has the same price i believe.... my budget is tight and I can't afford on a 675mx GPU (wish I can).