But Can It Run Crysis?

Takes all the meaning out of "can it run crysis" if the game tanks performance hard simply because its plain unoptimised.

Edit: Adding denuvo which is known to use a lot of cpu resources onto a game with poor cpu optimisation just puts more nails in its coffin.

 

Developers should take a page out of Capcom's book when doing remasters. The Resident Evil updates have been amazing - noticeable visual improvements with extremely well optimized performance.

 

Thats a really good point actually, the remasters were good and well optimised.

Though you can't exaclty compare the graphics. Just about anything will look better than the original RE 2 and 3.

 

They've been full on remakes rather than remasters though, which i personally believe is the only format of re-releasing a game to bother with.

 

Fair point. RE was a full, frame-up restoration while Crysis was a fresh coat of paint slapped on a car that still has underlying mechanical problems. And the paint wasn't even applied that well.

 

Paint applied over a car with peeling paint without stripping the old paint. Some places it looks fresh and shiny, some parts are just as bad if not worse.

 

Yeah, instead of just painting and redoing the interior of the old Impala, they needed to replace the engine and drivetrain as well. I mean I get it, it's a classic, but only so many people in 2020 are going to respect that.

 

ok back to reality...

game is broken I get 45fps on all low and 45 fps on all high....also crysis modded looks better with hd textures and blackfires mod...also i get 100fps with the better looking modded game

only hope, is modders will bring this up to 2020 snuff.


edit... i will post pictures tomorrow showing modded crysis looks better

 

Crysis Remastered in the test: Simply disappointing computerbase.de | 10/22/2020

If you want to play Crysis, you prefer the original
And therefore the editors have to strongly advise against buying Crysis Remastered. The game itself is still fun and undoubtedly deserves a good remaster. The product presented by Crytek is not worthy of the graphic cracker from back then. If you want to play Crysis, you should still use the original.

 

it is better looking than crysis original..yet it performs worse who would have thunk lol

 

Hey guys I have the following issue:



Is there anyone that came across this issue, or that happens to know what it is and how to fix it? This happens at the very start of the game.

 

looks like a direct x error


try downloading the latest direct x and august 2009 direct x...i'll help you through this

 

on a more positive note... i just booted up the game and it seems the bugs are worked out...great news for a great game that i'd say comes in second to msfs 2020 in terms of graphics

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll be installing W10 soon, so I'll leave this installation as it is.

 

it really looks like a direct x error

 

this is with a 1060

best looking graphics iv'e ever seen

 

its obvious which looks better

 

Bottom one, no contest

 

That thermal throttling tho (86C)

 

Pascal thermal throttles at 91C.

 

yeah i have my fans set to auto and they barely kick in at 86c...my cpu throttles though and there is no way around it since this is a thin and light gaming laptop.

-83mv undervolt and cpu locked at 3400mhz with thottlestop its a 8750h

 

anyways back on topic after giving this game another chance and looking deeper to see why it takes aways so much performance....look at this photo realistic ground textures below


Crysis was already the best looking game for years and I have no idea how it pulls off better textures without looking strange or out of place, and the lighting since its ray tracing is great if not the best

ill post a picture of the vegetation below, no game really comes close with the exception of maybe ghost recon


and the water is greatly improved

I think its fair to say with all the upgrades its no wonder I'm seeing 30fps at 1080p and a 3090 sees 30fps at 4k

 

also to add...this is with max fans and no undervolting stock everything including clocks on my gs63vr
cpu=67c
gpu=83c
after 30min

 

mod looks better though

 

Large textures don't really tank performance unless you don't have enough GPU memory or the bus bandwidth is too low to pump them into said memory.

The game still remains very cpu bound due to the poor optimization for multi-threading. It only supports 4 threads and 3 of them see hardly any use. Most calculations and physics run in one thread leaving one core pegged at near 100% all the time.

That's why you get 30fps. No doubt the game looks pretty great but poor optimisation because it's a remaster of an old engine is why the performance isn't good.

 

very true but I heard it uses cryengine 3 ala crysis 3

 

Crysis Remastered is on CryEngine 5, that’s why it has SVOGI and ray tracing.

 

oh cool? cryengine 5? wondered what happened to 4

ok here is some good info on crysis remastered
https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/09/23/geforce-rtx-3080-fe-crysis-remastered-performance/

I heard it uses a modded cryengine 3 on reddit, goes to show how much false information is floating around the web

 

this is with fans tuned to coolerboost...

@seanwee should i apply liquid metal? friend of mine that fixes computers for a living says it does nothing over stock and the deciding factor is quality of paste job

 

That IS somewhat true. But you need to know where he's coming from.

On desktops temperatures won't benefit much from LM vs a good quality paste. And in most instances it doesn't matter if its running at 50 vs 60°C.

On laptops however, the situation is very different as you have limited cooling. A 10°C difference could be the difference between thermal throttling and running at max turbo clocks. That's why LM is more prominently used in laptops.

 

I have been too busy with other things and just noticed Crysis Remastered was released. I just grabbed it from Epic Store for $19.49 and I am looking forward to rediscovering the best PC game known to man, LOL.

To be blunt, your friend is wrong, misinformed, or repeating what he has heard others say. I can't think of a more diplomatic way to say it. That is unfortunate because that kind of misinformed communication is misleading and simply exacerbates the problem of consumer ignorance. We expect that from the mainstream "news" media, but I expect better from someone that should be viewed as an expert. I suspect he means well and simply lacks first-hand knowledge and experience rather than advancing an agenda.

It is also possible that his opinion has been skewed by the experience of trying to use liquid metal to fix the underlying problem of a seriously flawed product. Liquid metal is incapable of fixing an engineering abortion. I haven't identified anything that can. The best you can hope for is some degree of mitigation. If he tried using liquid metal and found it produced the same results as ordinary thermal paste that would be a strong indicator the product he was attempting to fix is incapable of being salvaged because it is simply too screwed up to be fixed. Sadly, that is representative of the situation with most modern laptops. Most laptops are turdbooks in the strictest sense (glorified garbage) whether everything is soldered or not.

The gap is often smaller on a desktop with reference to max core temps using liquid metal versus conventional thermal paste because desktops generally (not always) have a better thermal solution. However, I can say definitively that liquid metal also dramatically improves thermals on an overcooked desktop with exotic cooling. I cannot do the things I do on my desktop using ordinary thermal paste. Ordinary thermal paste cannot handle it.

 

oh ok...yeah i was under the impression it allows better thermal transfer and lower temperatures..he did a good job replacing my upside down motherboard fans but perhaps he just doesnt want to pull my laptop apart again lol, that was my first thought and mr fox and sean confirm this. i think ill buy some and get him to do it anyways lol....any you guys recommend.


also to add is it even worth it as i dont mind running cpu at 3700-3300 as i cant see framerates past 60hz as my screen is 60 hz...my gpu tops out at 77-78

 

I've been using Liquid Pro (not Ultra) lately. It's working great. Thermalright liquid metal is also good, and Conductonaut is OK. I am finding that Liquid Pro is the easiest of all to apply. The standard size syringe also has more product, making it a better value. Conductonaut seems to be the worst about repelling from contact surfaces for some reason. I find it the most challenging to apply because it doesn't want to stick to the contact surfaces as well. I have to scrub it in with a lot of force using a cotton swab, otherwise, it only wants to ball up and stick to itself. So, I would recommend them in that order.

In all cases, a thorough cleansing of the contact surfaces is essential. On the copper heat sink plate, scuff it up with a fine grit sandpaper or the scuff pad included with some liquid metal packages after cleaning, then clean again. This will promote adhesion. Isopropyl alcohol works fine, but I prefer using acetone first, then following that up at the end with isopropyl alcohol. The acetone does a better job of stripping the surfaces, just be careful with painted or soft plastic surfaces. It may strip the paint or affect a soft plastic.

 

3ghz

3.3 ghz

4.1 ghz


as you can see this cpu bottlenecked game really isnt cpu bottlenecked...if it only uses 1-4 cores it will benefit from higher frequencies. but as per my demonstration it does not and I have no clue as to why...alot of mis info on this game out there. looks like it uses 12 cores just fine and is gpu bottlenecked massively...

experts what do you think the reason for being gpu bottlenecked.


I tried maxed out and all low with the same results

 

The fans not kicking in soon enough is an issue with many laptops. The OEMs are pandering to the crybabies that whine about fan noise and if you wait until the CPU gets that hot before the fans start running full blast it is going to be impossible to keep the temperatures in check. If you have the ability to set maximum fans, try doing that while the CPU is idle and let the temperatures normalize with max fans before you begin gaming and that should help the CPU and GPU stay cooler. If you wait until it is too late the temps can end up beyond the point of no return. Liquid metal may help, but it won't fix that problem. Given the fact that Pascal, Turing (and likely Ampere) GPUs begin to "thermal throttle" at below-normal operating temperatures this may yield an extra 100-300MHz on GPU boost clocks and a corresponding boost in FPS.

Looks great. I am excited about playing it and seeing for myself.

 

The reason you’re GPU bound is that you’re staring at a wall. Try looking over a vista with a long draw distance.

 

That was an example of exact position... differential is the same no matter where I look...my laptop is with my technician friends shop so I can't do much to show that....also when your frame rates are higher your most likely to see a cpu bottleneck

 

@Mr. Fox you will love it...alot of hate for it because it had Crysis remake expectations...those people will need their hype for Crysis 4

 

I only played it about 10 minutes because I had other things that were pressing to attend to. But, yeah... I do love it. Looks great and plays great. The only thing I dislike (which is common now) is the "autosave" instead of being able to save your progress as often as you feel like it. The "new way" usually (more often than not) sucks, and that's the new way of doing things.

 

Yeah I hate that also...but them 8k textures

 

@Mr. Fox have you seen those textures yet

 

So far everything looks really good to me. Is there something wrong that you want me to look for?

 

i'd set raytracing to performance and call it a day as it looks similar to veryhigh...when this game first came out it was super buggy now not so much

 

I have it set to "Can it run Crysis" and everything is super smooth and looks great.

 

your lucky....when it first came out it would stutter bad with ray tracing on

 

It was purely accidental this time since I was too busy with other things and not paying attention, but I generally find it is better to never be an early adopter of anything... especially where PC technology is concerned. It's always best to let the fanboys be the guinea pigs and just sit back and watch to see what shakes out with new hardware and/or software of any kind.

 

One of my buddies has adopted what he calls the "Generation N Minus One" approach to hardware for this very reason. He only buys parts from the generation before the newest one since he doesn't need bleeding edge parts. This also saves him a significant amount of money.

 

If he can get a good price sure. Any generation of gpu can be good at the right price.

I go with flagships every other release so i have best in class performance for a generation and midrange performance in the next, then back to best in class again.

 

Your buddy is a smart guy. If he does Windows the same way then he is brilliant (W10 -1 = W7... W8.X never actually counted).

 

Crysis was remastered with some pretty huge improvements like ray tracing and 8k textures which is unheard of for a remaster. Why is everyone complaining it was game of the year in 2007 and now it's greatly improved....people wanted a benchmark like the original and now they have it a 3080 nets less than 30 fps at 4k which is the new 1080p.

3d remember that technology.. we have x axis and y axis and apparently to the masses the z axis is a gimmick unlike x and y...

I'm sad because for the first time in my life I see people with power in numbers being intellectually lesser than the average joe...the new norm is stupidity...I really Bah nvm rant over...world's fate is a perilous outcome