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    But Can It Run Crysis?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Mr. Fox, Apr 18, 2020.

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    why guys?

    when crysis released it was the biggest thing since hl 2 and now after years this will be even bigger than hl alyx
     
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    All I can say is, meh. I can certainly wait another year for it to release on Steam. Maybe it will be like Metro Exodus and show up on Xbox Game Pass before then. Either way, pass for now.
     
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    its all good not everyone cares about great gameplay and ground breaking graphics
     
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    Gameplay is nothing that hasn't been done significantly better in the intervening 13 years, and from what I've seen, the visuals aren't that significant an upgrade. But you do you.
     
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    I don't really play first person shooters video games. I rather play 3rd person video games (Assassin's Creed, Resident Evil, etc) and I've seen no game with so interactive physics as Crysis. Do you know a game with better physics?
     
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    Well the thing is, this is a remake, nothing is changed gameplay wise, its still crysis 1. So by definition it does nothing new.

    What has been changed is the graphics, which have been updated to 2020 standards or even higher.

    Its like one of those remastered PS3 games on PS4. Sure the game looks a lot better but fundamentally its the same game.
     
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    Control has pretty fun physics.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Ok so I got my grubby little hands on the re-done crysis. This is not I repeat a remake but it might as well be called that. I'll try not to hype it up too much but it's going to be hard.

    Im running a mix of high and ultra with ray tracing on low and im averaging 24-40 fps at 1080p no aa with a 400mhz underclocked gtx 1060. It's laggy sometimes but I can live with that as this is a proper crysis release and we all know how crysis runs.

    Pros:

    Lighting no kidding around is light years ahead of all other games with the exception of MSFS 2020
    God rays are improved
    light shafts are improved(more and more detailed if that is possible)
    textures are about 4 times better than the modded hd textures I was using for crysis original.
    plant textures are on another level
    raytracing makes everything more believable
    pros go on and on but read cons

    Cons:

    input lag alot of input lag when in the original crysis you could instantly aim on some enemy this game reminds me of farcry four input lag and cannot be fixed and its the thing I hate the most about cryengine 3 and crysis 3. the lag makes it hard to aim and ruins some of the fun. I would say it's about half as bad as farcry 4 and closer to farcry 3 and the farcry series by no means a deal breaker but its present.

    con number 2 not all textures were updated and too me that makes no sense, why the heck not. but i'd say 90 percent of them were upgraded in a big way and even though it has low polygon counts compared to say rdr2 it has better lighting and textures as a whole.


    Now as a whole:

    Great game, still fun and ray tracing changes alot they have tweaked all the right things in all the right areas including running whereas you can now run for twice the time and it adds a funner playstyle...easily the best remaster in videogame history pending Mafias release.


    edit. sorry about the missing commas and missing periods, laptop is glitchy
     
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    [​IMG]

    its using 6 cores for me, and the game is not as cpu intensive as it is gpu, CPU is not the bottleneck with my 1060 and 8750h cpu

    So when a game uses more gpu than cpu you pass? haha thats kinda funny if you think about it.

    dso is wrong and obviously does not know what a bottleneck is
     
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    Did you even read the article? Of course you are GPU bound you are using a 1060.

    They were using a rtx 2080 TI and only getting 58% utilization so were cpu bound.

    I get that you are obviously love crysis but that facts are there.

    Also stop trying to twist my words and bait me into a argument about a something i never stated.
     
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    edit... not worth my time. also its not cpu bound even with a 3080
     
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    Not he's right. Considering the settings you're running, and the fact that you have a severely gimped and overheating 1060, there's no way you could possibly be anything but GPU-bound.

    And even then:
    Untitled.jpg
     
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    ok ill say this I can run at full power for a bit and its a lower framerate when it throttles. LTT showed when he gained a better gpu he gained better performance hence gpu bound...so no I'm right he went from a 2080ti to a 3080 and went from 22fps to 32fps...watch the darn video...I have no clue as to why NBR members of a long time hold on to an untrue opinion like its gold and nothing will shake it..dudes NBR has died and its not because of the noobs...you guys are always spitting lies and acting as if anyone questions it they are idiots...well after doing an official IQ test and seeing my IQ I know for a fact i'm more intelligent than most of NBR.\even if engligh/language is not my strength
     
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    The Dunning-Kruger Effect is strong with this one.
     
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    Cope.
     
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    Anyone knows if this game supports SLI? The original Crysis had one of the best SLI scaling ever
     
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    What are you even talking about in your own screenshot it's using 91% of a single core and bugger all of the others. Most of the game is still single threaded the fact that a newer gen gpu gave just 10fps indicates that too.

    The game is cpu bound.

    As for the rest of your rant IQ means nothing get a grip. You're wrong on this subject for, suck it up and move on, nothing wrong with being incorrect and actually intelligent people welcome it.
     
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    I learn things every day, knowing that you don't know everything is very freeing. :)
     
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    I am late to the party what did I miss in the last week?
    Some other forums say image quality is pathetic and getting refunds... :( Crysis Remastered Screenshot 2020.09.18 - 15.47.07.100.jpg
    [​IMG]
     
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    \

    I wouldn't put too much weight on the haters, they think nothing is up to snuff

    didn't understand my ballin answer.see see everything see
     
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    Yeah same here

    Tbh i expected more from it. Also the remake having the same CPU optimization problems as the orignal is a huge turn off..

    If a 2080Ti is strugging early in the game wait until later into the game.. cont

    to level 8 and 9, Those levels were true FPS killers because of the snow and the aliens.
     
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    Never had an issue running the GOG version on Windows 10.
     
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    After checking some videos on YouTube, the Remastered graphic looks cartoonish. It reminds me of Far Cry 3. I’m not impressed.

    I wish they did the completely “Remake” than easy money “Remaster” of Crysis 1.
     
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    Yeah having just played it within the last 5 years or so to the very end finally, this remaster isn't even remotely tempting me to throw down any cash on this. For someone that's never played it or a Crysis super fan maybe I can see it.

    Like I'm super stoked for the System Shock remake, but I'm sure there's plenty of people that could give zero &#$&@ about it. Of course that's remaking a landmark game from 1994, so that's a little more of a new and upgraded experience. Maybe they should have waited until like 2033 instead to make it much more of an upgraded experience.. if the world lasts that long at this point..

    LOL.. maybe if they wait till 2033 we can be living Metro 2033 and playing an upgraded Crysis in a subway tunnel bunker...
     
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    im on the extreme side of crysis fans so I know why I bought it but I can also see why people don't care..its basically a modded crysis and mods for crysis have been around for a decade, if the mods didn't sway you neither will this...the only big thing is the ray tracing...and to me thats worth the 30 I paid for it.

    I'll try not to be biased but this game looks better in every regard to the original grass is suppposed to be green in tropical areas it looks very very green. it is more accurate with colors and lighting but then again some people prefer the old brown/green look of everything
     
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    That's all that matters, if it brings you joy, go for it.
     
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    yeah exactly, everyones different and i'm in the minority here.


    this guy is also a fan and has a pretty balanced opinion for preople thinking of making the jump
     
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    I never played the original Crysis. From what I've seen, the original still looks pretty decent and won't take performance. I'm fine with 60fps, and I don't necessarily need THE best graphics (though of course they're nice). But from what I've seen, the image quality difference between the new remaster and the the previous version isn't night and day. I'll wait to see if the final remaster is better optimized than the current previews show.
     
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    yeah proto the game is out now and it looks great I mean the best graphics to date. I'd say a tie with msfs 2020. its the same great game just with better graphics and if anyone questions that they are blind..they are blind....I repeat they are blind. it has 8k textures on everything and far better lighting and ray tracing...says enough..all low looks better than crysis 1 on all veryhigh
     
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    i dont know if their was a silent update or what but im using 12 cores on the game now finally and it did not improve framerates so whoever mentioned it was a cpu bottleneck isn't very computer savy and knows nothing about games....but here it is

    [​IMG]

    and this is with a throttling mess of a 1060 running all ultra with raytracing on low
     
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    That one thread is a good case 88% .. I would bet if you watch it consistently you'll have one or two threads heavily used and the rest will be very lightly used if at all. Post a video of it so we can watch CPU core usage in real time, a single snapshot in time can be deceiving.
     
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    Why do you claim the game is using 12 threads? There is absolutely no way you could know that by only watching the core-usage (unless it's an obvious case of 100% utilization on all cores at the same time). The only way you can be sure about how many threads the game is using, is by using set affinity to a determined quantity of cores and testing performance. For example, set Crysis.exe to work with core 0 only, and check your frame rate, than set the game to work with cores 0 and 1, and check the frame rate, and so on. Those cores in you screeshot could be being used in several windows tasks not related to the game
     
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    Console Port of a Console Port, Garbage Art direction changes from color palette to the environmental changes, textures, npcs & that horrible lighting overall it's very cartoonish and doesn't have that impact at all. Severe optimization issues, no multicore scaling, borked controls, cut down content, less physics & absolutely no reason this game is tanking old GPUs to even Pascal very hard on a PC when the same garbage ran on the PS4, XB and Switch trash, then we have the lies, the darn CIRC preset looks like a joke tbh, where are the fidelity improvements when you change the settings and options for graphics ?

    Then you have the worst - EGS excl. B.S and Denuvo DRM on top of this. Only a few things are good but not at all worth.. This is a shame to PC gaming and the whole Crysis fan base and the 2007 OG masterpiece game, they made this game into a joke now.

    Crytek was already gone (bankrupt, closed off studios..) by Crysis 3 & Ryse, lot of their talent bled and left, their engine couldn't take off vs Epic's Unreal Engine, a shame as Cry Engine based Homefront, Prey look and feel superb. Now even more irrelevant. Shame on them, even with Saber they managed to screw this hard, 13 year old Crysis stomps this dumpsterfire hard. That's an achievement !!




    Save your time, money and play the original Crysis DRM free with mods, original PC Excl. proper game. And now I don't even have any ounce of faith that Crysis 2 and 3 will be remastered properly, no way, I wonder this remaster cash grab trash works on Win7 ? No issues since all original Crysis games run without issues, nothing value of lost. So many remasters of old games end up garbage barring only a few which can be count on fingers, no surprise but the biggest letdown to be honest, they just burned this game.

    OT - If DF shills for this then they will lose their entire credibility.
     
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    lol...dude you have obviously never played the game.

    edit, also when skyrim was remastered and did far less you guys were happy...hmm..mesa think you people are d...
     
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    Damn the 2007 Crysis looks better on that side to side YouTube video. The remastered version just looks much white and greeen? Like if some kind of oversaturation preset were used over the original game. The ray-tracing on and off I honestly see absolutely no difference at all.. is that just me?
     
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    I have to admit Skyrim: Special Edition looks better than the original (unmodded vs unmodded). And it was free for people who owned the original and all the DLC.

    I don't recall people going crazy about it though, it was more like eh.. ok it looks better stock, but a ton of people were complaining that they could make OG Skyrim look better with mods, ENBs and the like. Also people were upset that none of the mods worked on the new SE, especially SKSE which took a while to get going.

    But Bethesda had to release a better 64bit engine for the future mods, that was for sure.
     
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    Wait, they put Denuvo cancer in this, too? Then I will definitely stick with the DRM-free original from GOG.
     
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    Skyrim remastered was garbage graphics wise. What made it ok was the improved multi-core support and better modding capability.
     
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    Its all about the $$ these days...
     
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    88% on a single core and not much on the others ok. It's a port of the console version which has support for up to 4 cores but it's still heavily single threaded for the most part hence 88% on one core.

    The game is just unoptimized. Which is fine but the only thing i could care about from the remaster was to fix the the CPU bottle neck so we can play at higher framerates.


    You're playing at 35fps which to me in unplayable i may as well be playing on a nintendo switch at that point.
     
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    So Crysis Remastered runs on DX11?
    AFAIK ray tracing only available for DX12 and Vulkan?
     
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    It uses the VKRay extension over DX11 to allow hardware accelerated ray tracing.
     
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    it does a suprizzingly good job
     
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    basically says its great but performance due to cpu bottlenecking not so much really drops the hammer. and after reaching the snow levels sigh yes its broken
     
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    Thanks for sharing. Pretty unbiased review. RT looks pretty cool, when spotted as the way the reviewer does. Though some things are unacceptable, like the slow frame rate on plants physics, in general it seems like the remaster has worst physics than the original game. Well almost every game remaster improve some things but also breaks some others
     
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    Because its a console port.. instead of doing a true remastered version by using the Original PC Version they just used the XBOX360/PS3 version and added RT and other graphic improvements and called it a day.
     
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