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Game: Left 4 Dead 2

Specs:
-Intel Core i5-430M Dual Core processor (2.26GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.53GHz
-Intel HD Graphics
-4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
-1366 x 768
Windows 7

I know the Intel HD graphics are the weak link here, but I was hoping that since the processor is strong and that this new link of Intel graphics cards are better than previous ones, this would be enough??

 

That depends. Do you need battery life? TF2 isn't multithreaded, so the i7 won't help at all there. Diablo 3 I'm not sure about.

Based on YouTube videos, it'll play to a degree, but you'll need relatively low settings and/or resolution.

 

Battery life isn't an issue, so as far as performance goes it should be similar/not worth $200 more?

Thanks for the help.

 

It might help, or it might not. Without system requirements for Diablo 3, it's hard to say. The i7 is of course the safer option, and it will definitely be far more future-proof. If I could afford it, I'd definitely take the i7 in your situation. However, be prepared for more heat.

EDIT: Now that I think about it (I got a few things mixed up at first) the i7 is actually better for TF2, though with that GPU the CPU won't come into play all that much.

 

The Phenom N930 will be more than fine for gaming. No need to go overboard on CPU power, with a mid-range GPU.

 

Sorry to keep nagging, but could I get more specific info on how the 5650 will perform in the future? Or is it too difficult to make predictions? I hope not. I want to be able to play games for 2-3 years. What settings should I expect with the 5650? Like, at least medium for almost everything within a year, then low-medium for within 2 years, and low after that? Or will it be worse?

I'd really like to be able to play Guild Wars 2 above the lowest settings. Thanks.

 

Thanks a lot for all the help guys, I went with the Phenom.

 

Hi

I would like to know if my computer can run Bad Company 2 with decent settings. I want to get at least 40fps and I don't need all the eye candy.

My laptop specs are:
CPU: Intel Duo T8100 @ 2.10 GHZ
GPU:NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS (probably 512mb)
RAM:3.0 GB
Display:1280 x 800
Windows 7

 

according to notebookcheck.com, 8400M GS max memory is 256mb. and it is a successor of geforce go 7400. You might be able to run it at lowest settings, lowest resolution. Of course I might be mistaken since I have no idea how powerful 8400m gs is. From notebookcheck, it can barely run FEAR on highest setting, so my guess is, your laptop won't be able to run BC2 fluently.

 

This is actually good and should be good enough for gaming.. get it... in fact it should also be better than some more expensive i5 systems..

you should be able to do so at native res with very low settings.. but no fun doing so..

Metro 2033 seems to slaughter ATI cards so i suggest full HD and medium.. try out the settings..

i doubt so.. the intel HD is too weak for gaming.. getting something else..

no not possible... it will be very low settings but even 30fps would be good..system is too crappy.

 

Thanks for the replies.

 

how should my system (in my sig) run sc2 on native or on 1366x768? Im curious cos i think my laptop is only using the integrated card for sc2 rather than the nvidia..

 

Hey all, posted here weeks earlier with a slightly better laptop, but that had so many many problems with it that i got my money back and ordered a new laptop.

So i was hoping that i could still run games like : left4dead2, dead space, BF;BC2, GTA4, crysis etc. I dont really care at what settings, low is fine, as long as i dont have lag.

Asus N71JV-TY078V
Intel I5-430M
2.26GHZ
4gb ram DDR3
17.3 inch screen - 1600/900 res
Geforce GT325M videocard (this is the problem i fear)

thanks,

 

If you have run sc2 on your laptop, you should know how it runs

or do you mean sc2 is only recognizing your integrated card when you have nvidia card as well?

 

It won't work.. but if u use the dedicated card, it should run on high at native res... ur optimus isn't working.. u might need to force it or use a new driver.

GT325M won't be good enough for native res.. find one with GT335M at least..

 

Wont be able to play any game? ;'( eh, cant i play leftfordead 2, deadspace, WoW on high settings, gta4 atleast?

 

He was way too harsh.

Dead Space - Max settings/resolutions
L4D2 - High settings
Wow - Max everything, but Shadows
GTA4 - I can't speak for this one, but it will be playable around Medium.
Crysis - around 720p, medium

 

I've got a few questions about this graphics card.

1. Does it work with Blender?

2. Can I use this to play games like Gears of War and Bad Company 2? If I get it, it'll be on a 17.3" 1600x900px screen (if that makes a difference )

I'll probably have some more later. Thanks guys

 

fieuw, thanks

 

1. Don't know.

2. Maybe just barely. The AnandTech review is the only one I know of with the 5470 and BC2.

 

Can I play BF BC2?
CPU: T9300 2.5ghz 6mb
GPU: 8800m gts
RAM: 3gb
Display: 1680x1050 but can be lower 1440x900 or 1366x768

 

Should play with mid to high settings at 1366x768, and probably medium with a few lows at native.

 

1. I dunno too
2. It will stutter like insane and you wont even be able to get decent graphics options especially on such high res.

 

Not really, you won't. HD5470 averages barely 27fps in low detail in 1024x768.
Take a look here (bottom of the page) if you need more benchmarks. Unfortunately this GPU cannot provide decent framerate in most of current games let alone in the resolution you mentioned especially if detail level is above low.

 

Hey guys, how will SC2 run on this?

Model: Acer Aspire 5920G
CPU: Core2Duo T7300 2.0Ghz
GPU: Geforce 8600M GS DDR2 256mb
RAM: 4Gb DDR2
Display: 1280 x 800

Will upgrading the GPU to HD3650 DDR3 have much of a performance increase?

 

Hey, will Gears of War and/or Bad Company 2 play on this?

Model: Dell Inspiron 17R
CPU: New 2010 Intel® Core™ i3-350M 2.26Gh (4 Threads, 3M Cache)
GPU: 1G ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5470
RAM: 4GB2 Shared Dual Channel DDR3
Display: 1600 x 900

 

Can i run Warhammer 40: Dawn of war and its expansions on a geforce go 7150m?

thanks

 

If you want to play these games you will have to drop the res. to like 800*600 or 1024*768 + set almost all the graphics to low which will result in the worst gameplay experience ever

 

the 5470 will not be enough... u'll need a 5650 at least for this res.. 5470 is too weak...

you should be able to play at medium on 1680X1050... 8800M GTS is quite good..

it won't be a 100% increase... it will be 20-30% ... u really better off getting a new laptop.. on the current one , it will be low-medium on native res..

it wil be low settings at native res... get something else like a studio 17 with a 5650.. it would run the game on medium-high at 1600X900..

 

How about the Studio 17 with the Radeon 3650?

 

Play at 1280x800. Ignore 16:9 resolutions.

The 3650 GDDR3 is faster than the 9600M GT GDDR3, and the 9600M is far more than a 20-30% increase over the 8600M GS DDR2.

 

Model: Dell Studio 1749
CPU: NEW 2010 Intel® Core™ i3-350M 2.26GHz (3M cache
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650
RAM: 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
Display: 1600 x 900

Wanna play: Gears of War, and use Blender 3D. Will it work?

 

Ok so I'm almost starting to get desperate now. With no real life experience of those graphic cards, I have no idea which one would be the better choice. I do know that there is a similar thread (in fact I just replied to it ) , but I felt that my problem is slightly different, and I would so much prefer someone to help me on this.

So here are the choices(this thread is just for graphic card so I'm not talking about anything else):

X8100 has SLi GTX 285M which has 1G DDR3 ram and supports DX10

W880CU has single GTX 480M which has 2G DDR5 ram and supports DX11

According to the chart in notebookcheck, the dual GTX285M clearly has scored better benchmark and has better FPS in actual gaming, however I'm not sure whether the lower ram and lack of DX11 will drag the overall performance compared to the single 480M.

AND here is something new: Sager just switched the dual GTX 285M to a crossfire 5870 with 1G DDR5 ram and DX11 support. And the price dropped about $300 lower. I've heard some bad things about this setup, but the lowered price is a huge incentive for me.

So in short: let's pretend money's no object, which setup should I get?

 

What is the pricing on the two systems (X8100 vs W880CU)? If money is no issue, then go what's most powerful (assuming performance is your number 1 priority). If size, heat, cost is a priority, then it gets more complicated.

I personally would not go with a dual-GPU setup in a laptop because the added cost doesn't scale linearly, but that's my preference.

There are very few cases where you'll be limited by the amount of GPU RAM. It's usually hammered by things like textures, so games with a lot of texturing like Assassin's Creed or GTA4 may have to be at a lower texture setting if you have less GPU RAM.

 

Yes, my number 1 priority is performance. But I guess I'm in the whole dual vs. single debate now. What are the cons of dual cards setup?
And the price difference between those two laptops are just $100, so the cost of dual cards is not a problem at all.

 

Ok, a few things to consider then.

Dual cards are generally less efficient than a similarly performing single card. This equates to more power draw and more heat generation. If the laptop has good cooling, then it doesn't become an issue, although it often increases the size and weight of the laptop.

NVIDIA generally has better driver support than ATI, so I would rather go with an SLI setup than a CrossFire setup.

Also, given some time game developers will be able to more efficiently use NVIDIA's 4xx series and games will be a little more optimized for them than they are now. This is no guarantee though, but it's usually how it goes.

Also, the NVIDIA GTX 480M uses GDDR5 memory, which is more efficient and faster than the GDDR3 memory. That helps performance.

But, at the end of the day, if raw performance is most important and the price difference is only $100, then it looks like the dual-GPU setup is what you want.

 

Are u sure? I really don't think so.. u needed a 3850 to beat a DDR3 9600M GT i think..

It will work but i suggest u get a i5-430m CPU at least.. than u should have no problems... i5 CPU will be way betetr than i3...

i would get the X8100 with dual 5870s... the WC880CU is nver going to beat that... and certainly the dual 5870s should run cooler than overheating ferni

 

I just saw this post ATI 5870M CF > 480M. Cheaper Too. According to that, the crossfire setup has 17% more performance, but it doesn't necessarily mean 17% more FPS in actual gaming though. Is this 17% worth the hassle of dual cards? I've heard of some bad things about dual cards like compatibility and artifact issues.
Oh and I am kind of on the side of nVidia cards..(never used Ati before lol) Can I view nvidia as better performance but bad power consumption and price?

And is the GTX 285M in SLi better or is dual 5870 in crossfire better? Considering that nvidia has physix and cuda...

Sorry if I have too many questions.. I'm spending over two thousands dollars and I don't want to mess up lol

 

The article that thread is based on isn't terribly credible. No data to back up their claims makes me doubt them. Either way, the performances of the two are very similar and are plenty strong to play any game out there at full settings right now. ATI's CrossFire driver support isn't that great, and I personally would not want to have to deal with it.

I recommend you fill out the WNSIB form and post in the What Notebook Should I Buy? forum to get better answers to your questions. There is a lot that goes into a notebook besides the GPU, and we may be able to help you better there

 

NVIDIA® GeForce® G 105M. I have a 4 gb ram i5 hp laptop. Can i ran this game smoothly with no issues in low details ? the game minimum requirment is 128 mb memory so I think I should have no problem running this game, right ?

 

Above person meant for the game Dragon Age: Origins. Seems like he simply copy pasted his question and forgot to mention it in the post

 

Modern DirectX 10 games will run only in low details and resolutions. Older DirectX 9 games, like HalfLife 2 or Far Cry run fluently in medium to high details.

 

its too crap.. i suggest u try an ATI 5650 at least.

 

The moderator told me to repost it here . Thank you guys for your replies, I have another question : Can I play city building games like anno 1404 with this graphic card ? shame on HP they advertise it as a 512 mb and up to more than 2000 mb with shared memory, what a load of BS

 

I would be really surprised, if the 105M can run Dragon Age with any sort of playable framerate.

It's an 8 shader GPU.

Please, never copy/paste from Notebookcheck, ever again.

 

hey man, come on. Not everyone can afford good graphic cards... lets say it's not that good, not tear the dude down saying its crap even if it is.

 

So, ATI HD 5650 with Gears of War on a 1600x900 screen will work?

 

i don't see why not.. as long as u have a core i5 + 4GB RAM+ ATI HD5650 should work perfectly on med-high.. very likely high..

 

All UE3 games I tried on my 4650 + P8700 worked perfectly with everything at highest settings or turned on at 1600x900 (maybe AA depending on the specific game / No VSync). Yours should perform somewhere around 10-20% better (mine's underclocked, so perhaps even better).

 

Intresting to see conflicting views about the 3650 DDR3. Seems to be the best bang-to-buck upgrade. If i could get a 50% + increase id be me more than tempted.