COD MW3 Disscussion Thread

It's real shame what happened to the original IW after the success of the Modern Warfare franchise.

 

Most definitely sad It's going to be interesting to see what kind of games they come out with Maybe Duty of Call Warfare Modern lol

 

Just placing some of the name in that order isn't enough. But more than likely yes, it's going to be a FPS multi-player with a memorable SP campaign. I doubt they will actually do anything ground breaking. Stick to what they do best.

My guess, there is a reason why EA is totally fine with BF3 not competing with COD series head to head. Whatever Respawn is working on, will probably go head to head with COD and retake the crown from Activision.

If you go to to their website, it clearly states they are working on an entirely new IP, which they will own. EA is allowing them to own the IP and will just be publishing their new game.

 

If they continue to do a FPS game i hope they do something more than the "Modern Combat" theme most fps games use now.
Damn i hope Dice does a BF2142 DLC thingy like they did with BC2: Vietnam.

 

Isn't Back to Karkand expansion pack the similar thing to what BC2 did?

 

Well it'll still be the same modern combat setting while Vietnam was separate. I'm wondering though how it will work with servers - if they'll be able to mix between standard maps and Karkand maps. It would mean players that don't get Karkand get kicked when the server loads the next map. In BC2 you had to switch between vanilla and Vietnam and eventually there were fewer Vietnam servers to choose from due to limited maps and weapons.

 

Console FPS are all about the sci-fi setting. Gears of War trilogy, Resistance trilogy, Killzone trilogy, Halo franchise. It'd be nice to get a bit more of that sci-fi action for PC FPS. I personally don't enjoy something that is too similar to real wars that are maiming and killing real people right now. Sci fi not only opens up all sorts of unique plot options, but it allows for suspension of disbelief with everything from invisibility cloaks to jetpacks to gravity guns.

Edit: also, for the record, zombies? Kind of been done already. LOTS.

 

It runs at pretty high settings on my laptop (everything maxed, 1080P, SSAO off) but I can't believe how bad some of the textures look. I guess that's a console thing, but it's really jarring when you're admiring the way the shadows look on your gun and all that, and then you see this hideous wall texture that looks like they pulled it out of Doom.

 

By far one of the most annoying and broken part of the game is the connection/hosts. There are times when I can't even join a game and some where the connection is so bad it's like you're having a seizure. I thought the problem was just me or on my end but others in the lobbies say how bad the connection is. I thought they would've had this sorted out by now...

 

No dedicated servers again?

 

I'm not sure if it has been posted, but their is a bug in the advanced video settings where if 'Native' is NOT enabled (low,medium,high,extra,native) the games resolution will be stuck at 1024x768.

go to Options>video>advanced video> image quality and set it to 'native' -- which in turn will be your screens native resolution.

I knew as soon as I started the game the resolution was really low, the above fixed my issue.

 

I'm 0/20 on successful host migrations.

 

there are but they are un ranked. you have to activate them in the lobby.

 

Like any company that knows how to survive in a market economy, they charge what the market will bear. For all the griping about how MW3 doesn't have a next-generation game engine and Battlefield 3 does, the CoD franchise outsells the BF franchise and the CoD games holds their value longer (I got Bad Company 2 for about $5 on Steam when it was about a year old; Black Ops is still selling for full price). In short, they sell at $59 instead of $25 because people are willing to pay $59.

 

Well, I finished the campaign. Not as epic as MW2, but blows Blops away.

The hybrid sight on the RSASS is one of the goofiest things I've ever seen.

Haven't tried the MP, but COD MP tends to frustrate and bore me. I'll probably stick with BF3.

 

Whoever designed these maps is a masochist. Every part of the map has 7 directions you have to cover. I'm OK covering a few but sheesh, I'm tired of getting shot in the back.

 

Does anyone know if the price for this game will drop on black friday, in store or online?

 

I don't necessarily agree with this. I'm not sure Black Ops is still selling much at all at $59. For one thing, CoD games on the PC cannot be resold, so I'm not sure what you mean by "hold value". If you mean that the selling price stays high for a long time, I'd disagree that has much to do with holding value. I also believe that it's primarily a business decision of Activision to keep the price high to generate perceived value and consequently earn more sales early into a games release that would have otherwise gone unearned or been delayed significantly.

By keeping games full price and doing yearly releases, all those consumers who generally wait out an epic sale on the newest game (ie. $5 for BC2 - but not until it was over a year old, and it was still the newest BF game) may entice those types of consumers to shell out full price early on, by training their expectations about the long term buying opportunities of the game.

Keep in mind, the price is not what the market will bear. They are selling licenses, it is a service commodity, not a "good". There is no real limit or cost on their end for selling. They simply set their price. Their "supply" is unlimited, and the buying market is very limited. If they were trying to match what the market will bear, their prices would drop regularly and dramatically over time.

 

Isn't that pretty common for COD maps?

 

You just made my day sir.

 

Any previous rendition of CoD (or for any game series) series will have drastically lowered in price (but much like what you said about PC not being tradeable, they will probably lowered soon) but what he meant was that when BC2 and Blacks Ops were available (not release) there was a point in time where BC2 went for 5 dollars while BO was still full price...and still generating sales.

There are many factors to consider when talking about the selling price about an item ..(be it a commodity or good; in a multiplayer games case, youre paying that money for the multiplayer...I mean you can always download a cracked version for its campaign)

CoD is a highly successful franchise, people love it, many have an obssession about it. Its why the series is successful. It puts the company in power. They are the dealers to these addicts. They can set it at the highest reasonable price (and in this sense, reasonable is the highest value so far, where as in games they are at least in the US, around 60 dollars)

anything above that will make people question if its worth it.

at least thats what I think on it.

 

What was so bad about Black Ops? I though it was better than MW2...

I loved the slight old-schoolness of the game, and the exotic locales... I mean Baikonur, the russian prison, Vietnam jungle + hue city, Kowloon!! The flash back mission was pretty good (not as good as in cod 4 though)

Cod 4 was easily the best of the new gen cods, but black ops at least put together a functional story line!

MP was another story altogether...

Still undecided if I want to get this (mw3). WHY can't I rank up on dedicated servers... how stupid a decision was that...

If I do, it will be primarily for the co-op missions + survival.. with campaign secondary

Any one play these? how well is it implemented?

 

I understand this. My entire post explains why I believe this price difference exists. I do not think that they set the price of Black Ops at $60 because it's selling amazingly well at $60 at all times. You can see how they aren't strictly trying to optimize Black Ops sales. They want to optimize their long term CoD sales at this point. Black Ops is STILL up for $60 and they've already released their next game.

My argument is that by fixing Black Ops at $60 all throughout its lifecycle, they generated some extra MW3 sales early at full price, from those who otherwise may have waited for a price drop. In the case of CoD, that sort of buyer behavior would be catastrophic because waiting will skip an entire generation of the product, since its being churned out so frequently.

Yes, BC2 and Black Ops were the products available at the point in which BC2 was offered on sale for $5 and BO was $60, but keep in mind BC2 was already at least a year old at that point. It was released shortly after MW2, and Black Ops was a young CoD release at that point. Moreover, I've already explained why I think Activision isn't doing price drops over time to match the drop in demand of their product. They're trying to push a perception of value onto CoD as a series, even if it robs some sales from some of their particular products. They could set the price at $100 and would still generate some sales. Or $200. Or $250. It would still sell. There's also a price where it will sell optimally (ie. generate the most $/time). I guarantee you $60 was not that price 9 months after black ops was released.

 

What was bad about Black Ops? It looked like crap, the story was completely moronic. Some of the missions were horribly designed (Khe Sanh in particular). I just thought it sucked compared to MW2.

 

just having a go on the single player and got upto paris and then had a closedown with the error message "reliable command buffer overflow"
any ideas what this could be?

EDIT:
looks like this is a glitch happening to a lot of people.
solution:
The solution is not to go along the street but jump inside the bulding with broken windows on the right. There will be several enemies there, you will kill them, exit the building on the other side and the checkpoint will save. Going along the street in the open causes this glitch.

 

I really dont like how small the maps are. I also hate that theres 4 different buttons for killstreaks. The gameplay feels like an IW game, but the sounds (guns firing and reloadng) sound like treyarch games (which sucks). Also the audio is not immersive AT ALL unlike BF3 which has the best audio ive ever heard in a game. I like MW2 better and the size of the maps in MW2 better as well.

 

quick question for Modern Warfare 3 on the PC

are you able to play 2 player/split screen online, like the ps3/360?

did a general google search but no definitive answers, i know it supports lan now so was curious as i will buy it if it does

 

Forgive me for answering a question with a question... but what was the last game to support split screen in PC?

As far as I am aware, no it does not... unless theres some funky ways to get it working (the multiplayer+lan menus are absolutely horrible)

 

left 4 dead 2 was a recent one that i enjoyed. you could hook up 2 controllers and have a blast.

i dunno i heard they added offline splitscreen for the pc for the spec ops or some kind of lan feature. like i said i did alot of googling but no DEFINITIVE answers. i mean they just added 2 player online as recent as black ops for consoles, would make sense they added it for pc it would be a major selling point. i dont think im the only one who wants this am i ? lol

 

Does MW3 have a spec ops mode like MW2? For some reason I can't find that out elsewhere...

 

Ja it does. It has both horde survival and separate missions adapted from singleplayer...

the missions are okay, but survival is where its at... I just don't think the missions are too challenging with two people, and the stealth in the game is horrible (they should scratch the stealth ones in mw3 altogether, although mw2 had a decent sniper mission as I recall.)

 

I just started the campaign and came away very disappointed..

Before i continue, i just want to say that i'm not a fanboy of any particular series.. BF or COD but i liked the MW2 campaign and so decided to play the MW3 campaign..

Anyway, so my first impression was a very bad one.. the movements feel so artificial, the gun bobbing while sprinting just looks weird, gun sounds are terrible, nothing has any "weight" to it. I dont remember if MW2 was like this too but i dont think it was. Maybe playing BF3 made me aware of all these little differences..
The campaign just feels too Arcade-like.. which can be a good thing sometimes but not when its a serious fps "omg you have to save the world" type of game..

Anyway, going back to skyrim now.. maybe i'll get back the campaign sometime later..

 

Wow thats a shame I was kinda looking forward to some of those missions and hoped they threw in more stealth not less. Well what can you do, thanks though.

 

haha, the sniper one with the snowbanks and dog patrols? Gunned my way though that one All the annoying "magically appearing," enemies, however.

 

ive seen it all now. must be one of the biggest hacks so far.

MW3 - Retarded Cheats - YouTube

 

Nah - I was referring to the one based on the flashback mission in COD 4... but yeah, the stealth in the game is pretty bad.. theres I think 2 total spec op missions based on stealth, sometimes you can crawl right by enemies, other times you're hiding in the bush and they some how detect you. One of them, the enemy has a heli, but it sweeps around, and even if it sees a dead body, it doesn't raise an alarm... kinda blew it for me (esp comparing to tom clancy games)

 

Elite coming to PC (one day)

Activision still planning Call of Duty Elite on PC

by Steve Watts, shacknews.com, Nov 15, 2011 1:30PM PST

Call of Duty Elite has been suffering an embarrassment of riches, as console users flocking to the premium service has made it difficult for many to get in. The PC version hasn't released yet, and despite a statement to the contrary earlier today, the company claims it's is still coming.

Speculation was kicked off by an official tweet that said they "cannot guarantee if or when a version will be available for the PC." The "if" raised a few eyebrows.

Shacknews contacted Activision to clarify the statement, and the company says they misspoke. "The goal has always been to provide a PC offering for Elite," a representative told Shacknews. "The timing for that free offering is still being determined, so stay tuned for news on that."

PC didn't get a beta of the service, but it was said to be coming to the platform alongside the MW3 release. Given the continued problems that plague the service, it's clear that Activision has to improve the service before expanding it to yet another platform.

 

first dlc map pack released on 3rd january 2012

old maps new lease of life.
* Terminal from Modern Warfare 2 (Set in an Airpot terminal, luggage and planes everywhere, lots of glass too!)
* Favela from Modern Warfare 2 (The slums of Rio de Janeiro, lots of ground and rooftop battles!)
* Shipment from Modern Warfare (The smallest Call of Duty Map you’ll ever see! It’s basically as square map with a few shipping containers in the middle! The most intense map ever!)
* Crossfire from Modern Warfare (A map I personally loved, great for sniping along the large main road and great close quarters combat in this desert town!)

Modern Warfare 3 Map Pack 1: Nostalgic teased Call Of Duty Map Packs

 

? Will it be free? Reusing old maps for the first DLC pack?

 

most probably not. if we had elite then it would be free for the year as looks like they are going to release a dlc each month.
they buggered up with elite for pc though so as a way of saying sorry it should be free but im not holding my breath lol.

 

That's a pretty sad DLC.

 

yup,sure is. but of course, if they are releasing one every month for the next year then i suppose they ran out of ideas. someone forgot to tell them to release new maps first and then the old ones further down the line.

 

DLC will most definitely not be free.

Anyways I bought this game, last COD game I bought was the original MW. I liked it, the single player was fun. Some crazy weapons. I haven't tried the MP yet. I haven't played an online FPS in some time (CSS was the last one).

Ran great on my computer, I had it maxed out 1920x1200, 4X AA, everything on, etc. No frame drops the entire campaign. Graphics looked linear with a massive reliance on textures for visuals but it somehow worked.

 

I've finished the singleplayer and Special Ops just now. On Xbox. I must say that the first ACT was really really BORING. The last half of the second and third ACT was OK. Nothing more nothing less. I will say for gameplay, Modern Warfare was the worst one, it was just insane on Veteran. Modern Warfare 2 is the best one as gameplay. And I will say that Modern Warfare 3 is nothing better then MW2, but not bad as MW. It is just a new Modern Warfare 2 with some really really annoying bugs and shots.

 

give it a go Charles. only problem is its like marmite, you either love it or hate it. im certainly enjoying kill comfirmed which is like deathmatch but you have to collect their dog tags.
ranking up the levels is way too fast in this game. upto level 69 so far but there are some out there who are on second or third prestige.

 

MW2 was the best of all of them. The original IW team did it right. Had there been dedicated servers and not this VAC crap, that wouldve topped it off.

 

It was still 10 steps back then what it could have been. Balance was non-existent - some guns were useless, others (ACR) had ZERO recoil and some things just made me wonder what they were smoking (nuke... really??).

Honestly though, whats wrong with VAC? It works fairly well with counter strike 1.6 and source, and I've never had problems with it ala punkbuster.

No Dedicated servers is huge though. Can't believe they see MORE ping as somehow progressive.

 

VAC fails completely. Every single groundwar game I have gone into in MW3 has had a hacker in it. Sometimes there 1 on each team. It was just as bad in MW2, the hackers played almost all game types, atleast in MW3 they stay in groundwar with a hacker here and there playing SnD or domination. In MW1 I think I have seen 2 hackers tops ever and they were kicked/banned from the server within a couple of minutes.

Say what you want about MW2 (unbalanced or guns), sure there were some guns that were over-powered and some that were under, but if you were a good player you knew how to play with/against them. Maps were also ALOT better and the sounds in MW3 cant compare with MW2, they sound so much like black ops its like a joke.

All that said MW3 is still fun to play. Black Ops was so bad I have 2 hours time played max in that game, waste of $60.

 

The issue isn't with the anti-cheat system itself; it's the lack of real human enforcement. In CoD4, in addition to Punkbuster, you had live admins running their servers by their own rules, and they could kick and ban cheaters from their individual servers at their own whims. I guarantee you if CoD4 had only Punkbuster and no server admins, it would have just as many cheaters as MW2/MW3. Neither system is entirely perfect, nor will either one catch every single cheater on their own.

Personally, I like VAC better than Punkbuster, if only for the fact that VAC has never kicked or banned me for having the wrong graphics driver installed, having any on-screen overlays, running graphics card overclocking software, not manually updating, or just for the hell of it.

 

Yea I liked VAC for TF2 and CSS. I never really saw cheaters.